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 Post subject: Re: Joymax is actually going to ban bots??
PostPosted: Mon Mar 03, 2008 9:56 pm 
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I hope its not ppl with nodc actually, I know a lot of ppl who use it, but don't bot.



Agreed.
Not being able to login because SirShaDowCaT and his 200 alts are taking up space.
That's fair, any legit should have to wait until he's ready to logout.

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 Post subject: Re: Joymax is actually going to ban bots??
PostPosted: Mon Mar 03, 2008 10:02 pm 
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Taken from the Official SRO site:

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Hello. This is Silkroad Online.

Silkroad Online has prepared a massive bot punishment in order to satisfy the request of our users.
Please understand that this preparation has took a long time because we have increased the accuracy of blocking massive number of bots without harming good intentioned players.

We will proceed the punishment as soon as the preparation is complete.
In order to promote clean gaming environment, we ask our users not to use bots, as using bots will block the user's account permanently.

We will announce further information regarding the date of punishment when it's ready.

Thank you.


I suppose after a notice like that they're going to have to provide some list, but i wouldn't get my hopes up. I agree with sama98b, the list will either be populated with fake accounts or those that are no longer being used. Just like the bot lists back in late 2006, filled with fake names or of accounts that never even got banned.


Hopefully, they are going to ban anyone with a modded client or modded .pk2 files.


...but i must block the IIIlllIl spammers -_-.

OT: Massive bot ban sounds like a great idea, maybe we're getting a new update. Hopefully this prevention system will be like the Euro one, and they're probably inspired by Odin Venus and Hera.

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In other words...stop using your bots and once we do our fake ban you can go back to botting.


no in other words: don't bot because you will be banned, and if you get banned we lose a potential customer. Dude econ!

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 Post subject: Re: Joymax is actually going to ban bots??
PostPosted: Mon Mar 03, 2008 10:19 pm 
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I really don't understand why they make this big announcement of plans to make a huge bot block. They might as well just say "HEY BOTTERS, STOP BOTTING, WE'RE GONNA DO A BIG BLOCK SOON, JUST WAIT A COUPLE WEEKS K?" Farking idiots.

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I bet the rev6 bot is the big thing. Its prolly badly coded.

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 Post subject: Re: Joymax is actually going to ban bots??
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Sacchin wrote:
DarkJackal wrote:
I hope its not ppl with nodc actually, I know a lot of ppl who use it, but don't bot.



Agreed.
Not being able to login because SirShaDowCaT and his 200 alts are taking up space.
That's fair, any legit should have to wait until he's ready to logout.


There is an inherent flaw in arguing for using bot tools to beat bots.

Im glad I left Xian. *shudder*

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 Post subject: Re: Joymax is actually going to ban bots??
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Sacchin wrote:
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I hope its not ppl with nodc actually, I know a lot of ppl who use it, but don't bot.



Agreed.
Not being able to login because SirShaDowCaT and his 200 alts are taking up space.
That's fair, any legit should have to wait until he's ready to logout.


LOL, i agree with you altho im not really for the use of altered clients

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So here's a good analogy of the situation: "Get in the van; I have candy"

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 Post subject: Re: Joymax is actually going to ban bots??
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So here's a good analogy of the situation: "Get in the van; I have condoms"

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 Post subject: Re: Joymax is actually going to ban bots??
PostPosted: Mon Mar 03, 2008 11:33 pm 
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I hope its not ppl with nodc actually, I know a lot of ppl who use it, but don't bot.



Agreed.
Not being able to login because SirShaDowCaT and his 200 alts are taking up space.
That's fair, any legit should have to wait until he's ready to logout.


There is an inherent flaw in arguing for using bot tools to beat bots.

Im glad I left Xian. *shudder*

Theres also an inherent flaw in calling everything against the rules "bot", no dc has nothin to do with a bot, nor does pk2.

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 Post subject: Re: Joymax is actually going to ban bots??
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Theres also an inherent flaw in calling everything against the rules "bot", no dc has nothin to do with a bot, nor does pk2.

No, but they both give the user an unfair advantage, as does a bot. No D/c gives a person an advantage over others logging in. Pk2 gives an advantage seeing you can make invisible wizzies and rogues visible. It may not be botting, but it's still cheating.

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 Post subject: Re: Joymax is actually going to ban bots??
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The no DC client was first created by 0xyouknowwho. Its a bot tool, not a bot, like I said.

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 Post subject: Re: Joymax is actually going to ban bots??
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Theres also an inherent flaw in calling everything against the rules "bot", no dc has nothin to do with a bot, nor does pk2.

No, but they both give the user an unfair advantage, as does a bot. No D/c gives a person an advantage over others logging in. Pk2 gives an advantage seeing you can make invisible wizzies and rogues visible. It may not be botting, but it's still cheating.

Im not saying its all right to use em, and its not really an advantage for nodc, I mean you save what, 30 seconds? each try, and it doesn't effect gameplay. And pk2 for stealth yea, I can see that i definitely.

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 Post subject: Re: Joymax is actually going to ban bots??
PostPosted: Mon Mar 03, 2008 11:54 pm 
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DarkJackal wrote:
How is it a bot tool? It has nothing to do with a bot, created by a botter or not.

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Theres also an inherent flaw in calling everything against the rules "bot", no dc has nothin to do with a bot, nor does pk2.

No, but they both give the user an unfair advantage, as does a bot. No D/c gives a person an advantage over others logging in. Pk2 gives an advantage seeing you can make invisible wizzies and rogues visible. It may not be botting, but it's still cheating.

Im not saying its all right to use em, and its not really an advantage for nodc, I mean you save what, 30 seconds? each try, and it doesn't effect gameplay. And pk2 for stealth yea, I can see that i definitely.

Actually, if you have a fast pc it saves you only few seconds each try.. and it's about luck anyways to get in without premium.


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Exactly, the only thing it saves you is a bit of time Logging In, it keeps you from dcing before you have even connected(which btw is a fkin shit thing for joymax to do to players)and does nothing automated for you, or give an advantage.

It's not a bot tool >.>.

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Exactly, the only thing it saves you is a bit of time Logging In, it keeps you from dcing before you have even connected(which btw is a fkin shit thing for joymax to do to players)and does nothing automated for you, or give an advantage.

It's not a bot tool >.>.


ok, so let's not call it a bot tool. Semantics really. You could call a tool created by a bot company a bot tool I suppose.

At any rate, an unfair advantage is an unfair advantage. Even if it's just 5-30 seconds at a time.

Even if it's not an advantage, it's still modifying the client. Joymax doesn't want you to modify their client except for the ways they allow you to in-game via options.

Seems pretty cut and dry to me.

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Yea, again, I never said it was all right to use, but theres a big difference between that and bots.

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I'm in the verge if quitting this game. If Joymax keeps their word, and actually ban bots (players and gold), I'm coming back from my temporary leave.


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 Post subject: Re: Joymax is actually going to ban bots??
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what is a bot?

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what is a bot?


A dumbass. We declare war on dumbasses.

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 Post subject: Re: Joymax is actually going to ban bots??
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what is a bot?


A dumbass. We declare war on dumbasses.


The irony is overwhelming. :roll:


All the gold bots are gona be banned, they have to restart in jangan, and the fortress will make billions. GG fortress owners

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All the gold bots are gona be banned, they have to restart in jangan, and the fortress will make billions. GG fortress owners


thx :D

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 Post subject: Re: Joymax is actually going to ban bots??
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Ya, i cant wait for my billions either :)

:love: joymax's bot ban list

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Vindicator wrote:
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A dumbass. We declare war on dumbasses.


The irony is overwhelming. :roll:


All the gold bots are gona be banned, they have to restart in jangan, and the fortress will make billions. GG fortress owners


That is the second time Ive seen you use the word irony in the near past. It doesnt mean what you think it does. its cute when ppl try to look smart. lol http://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/irony

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irony -when something contrary to the expected occurs.

Usually...people don't declare war on themselves. Maybe whatever sub-reality you obviously come from is different, idk...

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i am looking forward to the ban on gold bots cuz its good for all the owners of the fortress war, a lot of traffic thru jangan means a ton of money going to the fortress owners, and i own the fortress with my union xD. and like before, its easy login for a few days. all depending on how many gold bots get banned. i am kinda hoping they dont ban real players because most of my friends are botters and they will all do chargebacks which will screw it up for us cuz paypal will porbably cancel with joymax.

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no in other words: don't bot because you will be banned, and if you get banned we lose a potential customer. Dude econ!


Yea, thats basically what I meant; I didnt express it clearly enough.

I love how they give the botters a heads up. But it doesnt suprise me considering the sh1t they've done, no, the sh1t they haven't done. Both I guess.

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My wish: Ban player bots
What will happen: Player bots wont get banned

Sadly i have to agree with sama that they are going to probably ban fake accounts or such.

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irony -when something contrary to the expected occurs.

Usually...people don't declare war on themselves. Maybe whatever sub-reality you obviously come from is different, idk...



LOL Good try...

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We'll see what happens when I try to log in tomorrow. I'll be afk stalling while I go to work, but hopefully I'll at least get in and make some gold.

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irony -when something contrary to the expected occurs.

Usually...people don't declare war on themselves. Maybe whatever sub-reality you obviously come from is different, idk...


Says the person with the hollister shirt in his avatar.... :roll:

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