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 Post subject: Re: Exposed PK2ers
PostPosted: Sat Apr 26, 2008 10:51 pm 
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I'll make this short as it seems there's no point in reasoning with you.

'Good' pk2 edit
(examples of blah blah)
Bad pk2 edit
(examples of blah blah)

Doesn't fly.

You have to insert a huge grey area between the two. Thereby making it impossible to differentiate as clearly as:

Good pk2|Bad pk2.

With even the slightest amount of reason you'll have to asume *ALL* pk2 edits are bad.

And please, stop it with the

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"Hmm, a russian guy stole my bike, all russians are thiefs!"
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I doubt you fully understand the meaning of it since you insist on dragging it in the discussion.
The only purpose of it is to drag the rest of us down to your level. It makes you look silly.

You want to cheat? Go ahead and cheat. Just don't pretend you're not.

*edit*
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 Post subject: Re: Exposed PK2ers
PostPosted: Sat Apr 26, 2008 10:55 pm 
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KillAndChill wrote:
Blackdragon6 wrote:
NO-DC ---> 3rd Party Use (Illegal and bannable offense by JM for tampering with the client.


Pk2 ---> as Barotix said you must know where to draw the line. It's a pretty thick line and should be hard to stay on the right side.


You forgot to add that pk2 editing is illegal and is a bannable offense by JM.

uh huh..... That's why I've seen so many people banned for it (other than invis/stealth edit)

I played with an edited media for the better part of a year. As you can see, not banned. Point me to one person with proof of being banned for pk2 editing(without photoshop)

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 Post subject: Re: Exposed PK2ers
PostPosted: Sat Apr 26, 2008 10:56 pm 
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This is pathetic.

One minute you're complaining that people kill low levels, yet PK2 editing the tiers allows you to see what level your opponant is! Therefore, there should be no complaining 'OmG low level killer TURKEY' bla bla Farking bla!

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 Post subject: Re: Exposed PK2ers
PostPosted: Sat Apr 26, 2008 11:10 pm 
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Snoopy wrote:
This is pathetic.

One minute you're complaining that people kill low levels, yet PK2 editing the tiers allows you to see what level your opponant is! Therefore, there should be no complaining 'OmG low level killer TURKEY' bla bla Farking bla!

Did you read my example on tweaking? killing low levels wont be solved by the use of pk2 edits anyway simply because those people don`t care about what level you are they will kill you over and over again "its their fun"

Tweaking should be allowed as long as you keep the tweaking inside the rules, i wonder what the difference will be if i change tiers so i can separate them more easily or simply look on Rev6.

NuclearSilo made a nice example on what should be considered as cheating.


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 Post subject: Re: Exposed PK2ers
PostPosted: Sun Apr 27, 2008 12:26 am 
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Blackdragon6 wrote:
KillAndChill wrote:
Blackdragon6 wrote:
NO-DC ---> 3rd Party Use (Illegal and bannable offense by JM for tampering with the client.


Pk2 ---> as Barotix said you must know where to draw the line. It's a pretty thick line and should be hard to stay on the right side.


You forgot to add that pk2 editing is illegal and is a bannable offense by JM.

uh huh..... That's why I've seen so many people banned for it (other than invis/stealth edit)

I played with an edited media for the better part of a year. As you can see, not banned. Point me to one person with proof of being banned for pk2 editing(without photoshop)

It is a bannable offense, JM just doesn't do anything about it, like botting.

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 Post subject: Re: Exposed PK2ers
PostPosted: Sun Apr 27, 2008 12:35 am 
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SiNaC wrote:
I'll make this short as it seems there's no point in reasoning with you.

'Good' pk2 edit
(examples of blah blah)
Bad pk2 edit
(examples of blah blah)

Doesn't fly.

You have to insert a huge grey area between the two. Thereby making it impossible to differentiate as clearly as:

Good pk2|Bad pk2.

With even the slightest amount of reason you'll have to asume *ALL* pk2 edits are bad.

And please, stop it with the

Quote:
"Hmm, a russian guy stole my bike, all russians are thiefs!"
quotes.
I doubt you fully understand the meaning of it since you insist on dragging it in the discussion.
The only purpose of it is to drag the rest of us down to your level. It makes you look silly.

You want to cheat? Go ahead and cheat. Just don't pretend you're not.

*edit*
Nuclearsilo, If it'll make you feel better, you're more than welcome to call me anything you like.


huh? How is it hard to see the line? The line should be obvious and Skayunor explained it perfectly.

Good Pk2ing: Pk2 edits used ONLY for your and other people's amusement.
(Getting that sweet 10th degree Glaive, making a Mangyang nuke, doing Somersaults instead of regular walking)
Bad Pk2ing: Every and all Pk2 edits used to deliver an unfair advantage over others in whatever way.
(Seeing invisible/stealthed people, seeing a thief's armor, enlarging unique mobs)

He even gave examples of what is bad and what is good, yet... yet you still... No my friend: There is no reasoning with you. There is no gray-area the line is clearly defined.

How the hell is turning meteor into raining mangyangs cheating? I am so confuzzled nao! :?

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 Post subject: Re: Exposed PK2ers
PostPosted: Sun Apr 27, 2008 12:40 am 
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Barotix wrote:
How the hell is turning meteor into raining mangyangs cheating? I am so confuzzled nao! :?

u contribute to the virtual genocide of mangyangs :x

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 Post subject: Re: Exposed PK2ers
PostPosted: Sun Apr 27, 2008 3:09 am 
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you have to be mother teresa to use pk2 correctly
no dc is a sin
botting is a crime

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 Post subject: Re: Exposed PK2ers
PostPosted: Sun Apr 27, 2008 3:11 am 
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it's like at what point does cheating become necessary to log in..

Now, there is even no dc. And client speed up thing.. you can speed up the time the client takes to be able to hit the connect button again.
So some people amp it up so the second it says cannot connect.. they can hit again and go..
now how the hell do legits even have a chance in this game if they can't even log in?

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 Post subject: Re: Exposed PK2ers
PostPosted: Sun Apr 27, 2008 5:20 am 
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unless u'r looking for validation of ur legitness from other people, they can't tell if u have no-dc or not. what's stopping u from using it?

to me, botting and pk2 edit to see invis/stealth is bad, everything else is fair game.

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 Post subject: Re: Exposed PK2ers
PostPosted: Sun Apr 27, 2008 8:13 am 
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Actually only data.pk2 editing may be harmfull. Anyway if you edit your pk2 then only you can see it and no one else(So others will think thats the noob with 1D equipment).

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 Post subject: Re: Exposed PK2ers
PostPosted: Sun Apr 27, 2008 10:26 am 
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I dont care about pk2-edit ... if every botter would do pk2 edit instead of botting I would be very very happy. Pk2-edit does not effect anything, it is just looking coll or whatever. But botting or botters are the people who made the server go crowded and are getting on the nerves of the real players.
Only this thing with pk2 invisible detect f**ks everything up, that should be punished, but all the other pk2-edits, like 8 to 10 degree ... well ... who cares???


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