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penfold1992
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Post subject: Re: Possible 4th race? [Suggestive Proof] Posted: Sun May 18, 2008 7:41 pm |
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emchooo wrote: http://silkroadonline.net/gameinfo/npc_overall.asp  hotan is the centre of the game china get jangan and dw euro get samarkand and const ISLAM get islam and india? 100cap = cave 110cap = toaist world? 120cap = heaven? lets not say what about 130 140 150 cap because we will see wont we
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Post subject: Re: Possible 4th race? [Suggestive Proof] Posted: Sun May 18, 2008 8:08 pm |
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penfold1992 wrote: hotan is the centre of the game
china get jangan and dw euro get samarkand and const ISLAM get islam and india?
100cap = cave 110cap = toaist world? 120cap = heaven?
lets not say what about 130 140 150 cap because we will see wont we By what the current map looks, it seems that the third race won't be having two cities, but only one. Europe and Islam might converge in Samarkand. The highest chance the third race is going to start will be at the west of West Asia, south of Central Asia, where the compass is at. Following the East-West speculation that Cruor laid out, to have a second city, the Islam map has to extend further and cut out a part of the Maramara sea. If not, we might see it extended south, which would make the map look weird.
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Post subject: Re: Possible 4th race? [Suggestive Proof] Posted: Sun May 18, 2008 8:18 pm |
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Euro doesn't get samarkand. Sam is Western Asia, Europe is Constantinople. We are looking at the same map, right? Baghdad/Tehran and Constantinople (judging from the map) will converge at Asia Minor or West Asia. Ooh, this is a great opportunity to pull out paint  T_T Joymax' map, in game, is full of so many geographic inaccuracies.
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Post subject: Re: Possible 4th race? [Suggestive Proof] Posted: Sun May 18, 2008 8:40 pm |
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Oh shiznuts. I didn't refer to the map. I always have Asia Minor and Central Asia as one in my mind. Anyway, Islam and Europe (races, not areas) might converge in Asia Minor, and still have Samarkand as their second city.
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Post subject: Re: Possible 4th race? [Suggestive Proof] Posted: Sun May 18, 2008 9:02 pm |
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go to the south of tarim ferry. you will see a big open area with mountins behind it. is it just me that thinks this leads somewhere?
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Post subject: Re: Possible 4th race? [Suggestive Proof] Posted: Sun May 18, 2008 9:21 pm |
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Would have been cool with another race if you ask me, maby they will be like "martial arts" chars  fighting with sticks, fighting without an weapon (not very lightly, but could be) and trowing knifes or w/e ^^ would have been cool 
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Post subject: Re: Possible 4th race? [Suggestive Proof] Posted: Sun May 18, 2008 10:08 pm |
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Spidd wrote: Would have been cool with another race if you ask me, maby they will be like "martial arts" chars  fighting with sticks, fighting without an weapon (not very lightly, but could be) and trowing knifes or w/e ^^ would have been cool  that'd be 9Dragons, and  If they were to expand, they'd still have Africa and japan to deal with, that'd be alot for the programmers and botters to cover in a free MMORPG
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Post subject: Re: Possible 4th race? [Suggestive Proof] Posted: Sun May 18, 2008 10:15 pm |
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if you read up about silkroad, the route is still taken by many traders today!
that map is what is covered now
to make it simple, the route marco polo travelled is what we will have in sro (along with the new race) im nt too sure on history lol
not sure if its said in ny1 elses guild or union but in mine sometimes say like as a challenge to do marco polo (which is const to jangan no breaks) ^^
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Post subject: Re: Possible 4th race? [Suggestive Proof] Posted: Sun May 18, 2008 10:56 pm |
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penfold1992 wrote: if you read up about silkroad, the route is still taken by many traders today!
that map is what is covered now
to make it simple, the route marco polo travelled is what we will have in sro (along with the new race) im nt too sure on history lol
not sure if its said in ny1 elses guild or union but in mine sometimes say like as a challenge to do marco polo (which is const to jangan no breaks) ^^ Marco Polo was from Venice and he doesn't share the same time line with SRO.
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Post subject: Re: Possible 4th race? [Suggestive Proof] Posted: Sun May 18, 2008 11:44 pm |
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foudre wrote: Konpaku wrote: BaRaCoDa wrote: nice posts every1 (actually it's hard to discuss each post ^^) but i wanna add this old photo , i searched the web site on it , but they deleted it or something like that that's what they gonna apply for the game i guess  auhauhauh see in taklamakan in map, have one vehicle UFO XD, top center joymax has a sense of humour? or used to, what happened to that that was an old map , i had it on my PC , u can see they marked the areas they had (before the euro update  ) we have now the upper part of the map and the rest will be the lower part , which mean islamic cultur at left side and the indian at the right , as CrazyPsycho said each of them will get 25 % of the total map and Konpaku , i really don't know what r u talking about , i couldn' understand u u did the same map !!!??? , is that all . the names of areas already on the map but in very light color
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Post subject: Re: Possible 4th race? [Suggestive Proof] Posted: Mon May 19, 2008 12:56 am |
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Wow. I didn't expect it to go this far. All I did was suggest it lol. I never said if I believed it. But now I'm leaning more towards coicidence. penfold1992 wrote: 100cap = cave 110cap = toaist world? 120cap = heaven?
lets not say what about 130 140 150 cap because we will see wont we Actually I'm pretty sure 110 cap is fire/flame mountain. South of hotan If i'm thinking right. so by that only 140-150 is unaccounted, but those could be caves.
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Post subject: Re: Possible 4th race? [Suggestive Proof] Posted: Mon May 19, 2008 12:58 am |
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BaRaCoDa wrote: that was an old map , i had it on my PC , u can see they marked the areas they had (before the euro update  ) we have now the upper part of the map and the rest will be the lower part , which mean islamic cultur at left side and the indian at the right , as CrazyPsycho said each of them will get 25 % of the total map and Konpaku , i really don't know what r u talking about , i couldn' understand u u did the same map !!!??? , is that all . the names of areas already on the map but in very light color Simple 1 - he put in egypt marmare sea ^ ^ 2 - saytan in roc mountain "fenix = roc + saytan = roc mountain" 3 - the next update of europe is "fortress Europe" "cave temple jupter" 4 - saytan area in samarkand? 5 - weast asia = roc mountain ^ ^ is it is 100% map
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Post subject: Re: Possible 4th race? [Suggestive Proof] Posted: Mon May 19, 2008 6:24 am |
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penfold1992 wrote: go to the south of tarim ferry. you will see a big open area with mountins behind it. is it just me that thinks this leads somewhere? That's where we refer to as Flame Mountain.
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Post subject: Re: Possible 4th race? [Suggestive Proof] Posted: Mon May 19, 2008 6:28 am |
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Prophet Izaach wrote: penfold1992 wrote: go to the south of tarim ferry. you will see a big open area with mountins behind it. is it just me that thinks this leads somewhere? That's where we refer to as Flame Mountain. Yep. Kinda south of hotan and the tarim ferrys
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Post subject: Re: Possible 4th race? [Suggestive Proof] Posted: Mon May 19, 2008 8:30 am |
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There was a 4th race, was supposed to be Heaven. gg. Look at SilkRoad Online site from about 2 years back, the areas were as follows: Chinese, European, Islamic, and Heaven. So from what we have, and how the game updates are goin, this "mystery" race must have to do with Heaven. Hm?
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Post subject: Re: Possible 4th race? Posted: Mon May 19, 2008 3:06 pm |
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Barotix wrote: So Joymax may throw in a 4th race, lol, wtf? European-Party Chinese-Solo Islam-Balance Indian-Rapes All with dildos?
cba to d/l ksro client and start touching things I shouldn't. I'll just take konpaku's word as truth until proven wrong. Baro, why do you keep thinking Joymax actually cares about gameplay... 
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Post subject: Re: Possible 4th race? [Suggestive Proof] Posted: Mon May 19, 2008 6:40 pm |
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Konpaku wrote: BaRaCoDa wrote: that was an old map , i had it on my PC , u can see they marked the areas they had (before the euro update  ) we have now the upper part of the map and the rest will be the lower part , which mean islamic cultur at left side and the indian at the right , as CrazyPsycho said each of them will get 25 % of the total map and Konpaku , i really don't know what r u talking about , i couldn' understand u u did the same map !!!??? , is that all . the names of areas already on the map but in very light color Simple 1 - he put in egypt marmare sea ^ ^ 2 - saytan in roc mountain "fenix = roc + saytan = roc mountain" 3 - the next update of europe is "fortress Europe" "cave temple jupter" 4 - saytan area in samarkand? 5 - weast asia = roc mountain ^ ^ is it is 100% map that's silkroad online's old map on the area's page and from what's written on it , seems like there r 4 cultures ( Chinese , Euro , Islamic ,Indian or something near it) no1 knows how the map will be in future , so don't say Marmara sea will stick beside Egypt  and yet we don't know what's the next update , but probably tiger mountain fortress , coz Ksro already have it and forget about point 4 & 5 , we all know that west Asia is saytan's area , we don't need more philosophical ideas from you i added this old map to prove that's there will be 4th race (and i said old , this words i added r old , i added them long time ago in another thread here) 
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Post subject: Re: Possible 4th race? [Suggestive Proof] Posted: Mon May 19, 2008 9:37 pm |
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BaRaCoDa wrote: Konpaku wrote: BaRaCoDa wrote: that was an old map , i had it on my PC , u can see they marked the areas they had (before the euro update  ) we have now the upper part of the map and the rest will be the lower part , which mean islamic cultur at left side and the indian at the right , as CrazyPsycho said each of them will get 25 % of the total map and Konpaku , i really don't know what r u talking about , i couldn' understand u u did the same map !!!??? , is that all . the names of areas already on the map but in very light color Simple 1 - he put in egypt marmare sea ^ ^ 2 - saytan in roc mountain "fenix = roc + saytan = roc mountain" 3 - the next update of europe is "fortress Europe" "cave temple jupter" 4 - saytan area in samarkand? 5 - weast asia = roc mountain ^ ^ is it is 100% map that's silkroad online's old map on the area's page and from what's written on it , seems like there r 4 cultures ( Chinese , Euro , Islamic ,Indian or something near it) no1 knows how the map will be in future , so don't say Marmara sea will stick beside Egypt  and yet we don't know what's the next update , but probably tiger mountain fortress , coz Ksro already have it and forget about point 4 & 5 , we all know that west Asia is saytan's area , we don't need more philosophical ideas from you i added this old map to prove that's there will be 4th race (and i said old , this words i added r old , i added them long time ago in another thread here)  If you respond with tl;dr, you lose. Either way you lose. I have shattered any idea of a fourth race, just read it. Your statement that each race gets a quarter of the map is incorrect according to the same map you use to present your theory. You have no primary sources or secondary sources, other than this map. You even altered the map, and interpreted it incorrectly for the sake of your theory while ignoring the thoughts of others. Now, yes the region you have marked as India is India but it is not the region for another race. First I removed your Edit to show a clearer, purer version of the map. Second I cite the interview and the official site, which on several occasions has stated: There are three races, Chinese, European, and Islamic. Yes the idea of a fourth one is appealing but it is absolutely ludicrous. Take a look at the unaltered map: Attachment:
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I shaded out the text you added with red. Here is another map that I just made now. I edited your text out in green, brought the roads out in red, circled what you believe to be India in red, circled the Islam/Europe Cities in yellow, and Circled Jangan, DW, and Hotan in blue: Attachment:
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Now, The debunking begins: One, notice the area which Europe, China, and Islam is in. Do you notice something about Islam and Europe? They all have cities that are modeled the same, excluding the caves. Now look at Jangan and DW. They, on the map, are drawn similarly. The difference being jangan looks more regal because that (in SRO) is where the Emperor resides. Look at Hotan, you can tell which one is Hotan because of the Trees (i.e.) Oasis Kingdom, the center of the Silkroad. Now look at what you believe to be India, what do you notice? Is that region shaped like a city? Does it even have anything shaped like a city there? No, It has a Statue of a Hindu God, signifying Hinduism. Now that area is called Buddha World, correct? Why would a Hindu God be at the site of Buddha World? Notice on the site they changed the name of Buddha world to India and Hermit world to Taoist world? That is for historical accuracy. Now look at the map again, do you notice the two Drawings on the indian subcontinent don't have cities designed in a similar manner? They don't even attempt to make a city, they have statues: A hand and, possibly, Vishnu. Do you see a pattern in the areas with races? They all have cities modeled after that region's race, don't they? In Europe they have a Romanesque city. In China they have a Emperor's palace and an inner mongolian city. South West of the Inner Mongolia city, they have an Oasis Kingdom, that is Hotan. In Islam, they have what appears to be a Mosque and finally where Samarkand is they have a city. Now, look north of Hotan, do you see taklamakan? Good, look east of Jangan, do you see Chin tomb? Good, look east of Samarkand, do you see Roc Mtn? Good, now look west of Constantinople, do you see Jupiter Temple? Good, Now north east of what appears to be Islam, do you see a cave? What cave is that? It is Cleopatra's Gate, a perversion of the Babylonian/Persian Fire Temple. You do see it, right? Good, now look at the roads. Make Sure to follow the road Lets start in Jangan, now head North-West. You're in DW now, good. Head South-West, you're in Hotan. Do you see the way the road moves? Do you? If you have a copy of the in game map on your computer I would suggest looking at it and doing a cross reference between my directions and the in game map. They're similar, no, they're the same. Ok - Continue from hotan south west, there are two options. You can continue on to Roc Mountain or you can go further south-west to Samarkand, good you're there. From Samarkand, you have a long journey (North West) to Constantinople right through asia minor, correct? Go back to samarkand, head south west, this time You should hit what, historically, is Baghdad. If you have managed to get this far without much dispute then I have confirmed your map reading skills as decent. Good we have established a Solid connection between Constantinople, Samarkand, Baghdad, Hotan, DW, and Jangan. Another route, let us start where you believe the Indian Race is located: Start at the statue of Vishnu, head North-East. You should bump into... What... Heaven? Yes that is... Heaven. Hmm, it seems impossible to continue... In order for this to work out, the Indians would have to be separate from the other three races for several levels. Let us try this again, but differently. Head for Hotan, good you're in Hotan. In jangan there is a level 90 - 100 training ground. That is Chin Tomb. You're still in Hotan, just keep in mind the current level of mobs. If you head South-East you end up in what is known as Fire Mountain, from fire mountain head South-West. You should now be in hermit World (ATM Taoist World). Good, lets go to Heaven now... Wait. There is no Land Route from taoist World to Heaven, as a Matter of fact: Heaven is only connected (by land) to Buddhist World (ATM India). How do you get to Heaven or India? Head Back to Jangan (and so it starts). Level Route: All races should meet in Hotan, correct? India doesn't. According to your map, India has NO contact with the other cities. If there is no land route how can they be expected to reach Hotan? Teleport, DUH! Wait, look at the other cities, they all have land routes to places that can be reached through teleporting. This makes no sense. Historically India would be connected to Islam and China, but the map says other wise and earlier we established that this map is an accurate representation of the In-Game map, so what do you see? You say each race gets a quarter of the map, but Each Race's city (excluding the cities they share) gets maybe 15% (if they're lucky). China, gets two cities. Europe gets one and so does Islam (based on this map). Next Europe and Islam share a city: Samarkand. China, Europe, and Islam also share a city: Hotan. Now, look at other MMOs. Lets look at a well known one: WoW, their end-game areas are not directly connected to the primary areas. This goes for most MMOs, including SRO. Heaven and India (Buddha World on your map) are not connected to any other regions. Heaven appears to be a set of clouds that flow in the air and India (Buddha World on this map) is the land connected to it. Again, looking at other MMOs. In MMOs that have races there (usually, not always) is a city where the races meet. A main city. In SRO that city is Hotan. Now, how will the Indians even trade to Hotan? This IS silk road online and each race should be able to participate in trades from their city to hotan and to any other city via land. You can't teleport with trading transports so the teleporting from India to Hotan is bunk and you need to go by land, also the races can interact but this map tells a different story. To round up, Your MAP, yes, YOUR MAP. Tells a very, very different story. In order for an Indian race to exist in SRO every rule has to be broken or the Indians have to be Isolated Until all the races meet in heaven. That, makes no sense at all. Lastly, have you looked at the SRO trailers lately and how much DO you know about Silk Road history and their related regions? Fourth Race Idea: Debunked.  Oh, and another matter. Since the beginning of the game there have always been mention, not discrete, but In your face allusions to future updates. This Indian Race prediction requires to much messing around and is easily "busted".
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Post subject: Re: Possible 4th race? [Suggestive Proof] Posted: Mon May 19, 2008 10:18 pm |
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Not even the 3rd race is out yet. There are no pk2 edits for stuff after the Euro update and the level 100 cap (or atleast not to the best of my knowledge). It's pointless to argue over what the 4th race is going to be, since Joymax never explicitly stated anything about it. So far, all we know is that China, Euro, and Islam race are guaranteed. Nothing else. You can speculate all you want, but unless Joymax mentions the presence of another 4th race in the future, there are no actual grounds for debate.
A single icon that is smaller than 1 cm from a random website does not really mean anything. That is hardly a sufficient piece of evidence. That's like taking a picture of the sky at night, and immediately labeling a random glowing object in the sky as an alien spacecraft. Concluding without enough valid evidence. Konpaku is not Joymax. At the end of the day, it's Joymax's released information that matters, not Konpaku's speculations. Even if it is possible to grind in India region (which will probably not happen for a very...very...VERY long time), there is no info that Indians will be a separate race. Unless Joymax announces that Indians (or any other mysterious 4th race) will be playable), we will have to assume that India is just another place to grind at, similar to Donwhang, Hotan, and Samarkand.
My point is that speculation is futile unless Joymax officially declares any info regarding to a 4th race. Jumping to conclusions in the meantime based on a tiny icon of a random website is pointless.
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Post subject: Re: Possible 4th race? [Suggestive Proof] Posted: Mon May 19, 2008 10:33 pm |
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Perseus wrote: Not even the 3rd race is out yet. There are no pk2 edits for stuff after the Euro update and the level 100 cap (or atleast not to the best of my knowledge). It's pointless to argue over what the 4th race is going to be, since Joymax never explicitly stated anything about it. So far, all we know is that China, Euro, and Islam race are guaranteed. Nothing else. You can speculate all you want, but unless Joymax mentions the presence of another 4th race in the future, there are no actual grounds for debate.
A single icon that is smaller than 1 cm from a random website does not really mean anything. That is hardly a sufficient piece of evidence. That's like taking a picture of the sky at night, and immediately labeling a random glowing object in the sky as an alien spacecraft. Concluding without enough valid evidence. Konpaku is not Joymax. At the end of the day, it's Joymax's released information that matters, not Konpaku's speculations. Even if it is possible to grind in India region (which will probably not happen for a very...very...VERY long time), there is no info that Indians will be a separate race. Unless Joymax announces that Indians (or any other mysterious 4th race) will be playable), we will have to assume that India is just another place to grind at, similar to Donwhang, Hotan, and Samarkand.
My point is that speculation is futile unless Joymax officially declares any info regarding to a 4th race. Jumping to conclusions in the meantime based on a tiny icon of a random website is pointless. Others said that, so they brought a Map of SRO claiming it was proof. The map was Edited so, using the same map, I removed any hopes of a fourth race by analyzing it and doing a cross-reference with the ingame map to confirm my statements. And you will grind in India, the end-game goes like so: 110: (Main grind spot) Fire Mtn 120: Taoist World 130-140/50: Heaven and India, just look at the map then cross reference with the in game map and other information provided by Joymax.
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Post subject: Re: Possible 4th race? Posted: Mon May 19, 2008 10:40 pm |
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Barotix wrote: So Joymax may throw in a 4th race, lol, wtf? European-Party Chinese-Solo Islam-Balance Indian-Rapes All with dildos?
cba to d/l ksro client and start touching things I shouldn't. I'll just take konpaku's word as truth until proven wrong. there not close to having islam out.. why think about 4th race?
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Post subject: Re: Possible 4th race? Posted: Tue May 20, 2008 2:16 am |
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HappyMonkey wrote: Barotix wrote: So Joymax may throw in a 4th race, lol, wtf? European-Party Chinese-Solo Islam-Balance Indian-Rapes All with dildos?
cba to d/l ksro client and start touching things I shouldn't. I'll just take konpaku's word as truth until proven wrong. there not close to having islam out.. why think about 4th race? Next time read the whole thing. It's not about proving a 4th race, it was to suggest it as a possiblity. And who cares about islam not being here? We still talk about that don't we?
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