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PostPosted: Fri Aug 10, 2007 10:11 pm 
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Don't argue with someone who has a higher education than you.


LOL...didn't catch that gem the first time through.

Does that rule apply to you as well? So you're saying that all of this may have been avoided by me just showing that I have a higher education than you?!?! :banghead: If I post a copy of my doctorate diploma, it means I win? (Unless, of course, you have a doctorate that trumps my doctorate...but I'm guessing we won't have to cross that bridge.)


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hey dawg, u couldn't tell the difference between empathy and sympathy :roll:

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hey dawg, u couldn't tell the difference between empathy and sympathy :roll:


I guess we'll have to agree to disagree. The way I read both the shortened and long definitions supports my argument. You feel they support your argument. If we disagree on the interpretation of the definition, arguing about it ain't going to get very far. So we can just let that issue drop, eh?


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there are very clear definitions for both words. u can't change their meaning...unless u'r king of the world <.<

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Don't argue with someone who has a higher education than you.




so people from tier world country shouldn't vote? :(

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there are very clear definitions for both words. u can't change their meaning...unless u'r king of the world <.<


I guess we'll have to agree to disagree. The way I read both the shortened and long definitions supports my argument. You feel they support your argument. If we disagree on the interpretation of the definition, arguing about it ain't going to get very far. So we can just let that issue drop, eh?


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so much ego man. u can't interchange the two definitions.

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so much ego man. u can't interchange the two definitions.


I guess we'll have to agree to disagree. The way I read both the shortened and long definitions supports my argument. You feel they support your argument. If we disagree on the interpretation of the definition, arguing about it ain't going to get very far. So we can just let that issue drop, eh?


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T_T u fast...i take dunno...from october 2006 to 1 month ago to reach 80 xD


and now farming................................well
Congratulations :O now ride to 80 :!: :!:


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There's only one person on this forum who knows a little about me IRL (keep your mouth shut BTW!) and I know he's laughing his ass off at me being described as 1) stupid and 2) 10 years old. :D My only response to your assertion is that you should be able to tell from the way I present my arguments and my vocabulary that I am none of the things you suggest.


That made me laugh... someone who after being presented facts, still can't accept the meaning of empathy/sympathy. Yes, they have very close meanings... no doubt. But those two words are not synonymous with each other. Yes, you are indeed stupid to be blunt.


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lol..wow! congratz..what about me??

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i agree with TOloseGT and Death2U, for the fact that D2U's smart and never been wrong. wasting my time rading this topic show my why i dont disagree with abortion.


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Man, lvl 78...

I sacrificed my life for odin server and just hit lvl 60.. I don't think I can go on anymore.


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i agree with TOloseGT and Death2U, for the fact that D2U's smart and never been wrong. wasting my time rading this topic show my why i dont disagree with abortion.


My ass is big enough,so please get in! :D

Anyway,this thread should get closed,since the guy isn't legit at all,and people are flamin each other.


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in what way is he not legit?

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in what way is he not legit?


i think some1 said that the dude who made the topic bought gold.


and flame began.

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Just because this seems to be of such interest, below I've copied and pasted from a medical journal the distinction as I understand it. Maybe this is too clinical a definition, but here it is:

"Empathy Versus Sympathy (and Versus Pity)

Sympathy implies feeling shared with the sufferer as if the pain belonged to both persons: We sympathize with other human beings when we share and suffer with them. It would stand to reason, therefore, that completely shared suffering can never exist between physician and patient; otherwise, the physician would share the patient's plight and would therefore be unable to help.

Empathy is concerned with a much higher order of human relationship and understanding: engaged detachment. In empathy, we "borrow" another's feelings to observe, feel, and understand them--but not to take them onto ourselves. By being a participant-observer, we come to understand how the other person feels. An empathetic observer enters into the equation and then is removed. "

Unless I'm reading it wrong, they seem to be saying that:

Someone exhibiting sympathy actually feels or has felt the experience of the other party; while

Someone exhibiting empathy understands that persons experience but is still an outside observer and does not experience.

Even if I'm stupid, clearly there are some clever people out there who agree with me.

And could you please let me know your level of education, D2A, so we can tell who is right and who is wrong? Your rules, not mine.


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in what way is he not legit?


I said it already few times,he's a famous gold buyer on eldorado.He's buying gold.But he's a good guy anyway,so i dont care.Jus next time remove the "Legit" word ^.^


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deus means in Latin god

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in what way is he not legit?


I said it already few times,he's a famous gold buyer on eldorado.He's buying gold.But he's a good guy anyway,so i dont care.Jus next time remove the "Legit" word ^.^


Let me guess who you are =P

Got_Fuked?

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non ego man wrote:
Just because this seems to be of such interest, below I've copied and pasted from a medical journal the distinction as I understand it. Maybe this is too clinical a definition, but here it is:

"Empathy Versus Sympathy (and Versus Pity)

Sympathy implies feeling shared with the sufferer as if the pain belonged to both persons: We sympathize with other human beings when we share and suffer with them. It would stand to reason, therefore, that completely shared suffering can never exist between physician and patient; otherwise, the physician would share the patient's plight and would therefore be unable to help.

Empathy is concerned with a much higher order of human relationship and understanding: engaged detachment. In empathy, we "borrow" another's feelings to observe, feel, and understand them--but not to take them onto ourselves. By being a participant-observer, we come to understand how the other person feels. An empathetic observer enters into the equation and then is removed. "

Unless I'm reading it wrong, they seem to be saying that:

Someone exhibiting sympathy actually feels or has felt the experience of the other party; while

Someone exhibiting empathy understands that persons experience but is still an outside observer and does not experience.

Even if I'm stupid, clearly there are some clever people out there who agree with me.

And could you please let me know your level of education, D2A, so we can tell who is right and who is wrong? Your rules, not mine.


Let me explain this is very simple terms:

When you sympathize for someone, you feel sorry for their pain. When you feel empathy, you are feeling into their pain too. They have very close meanings, but they are not synonymous.

Sympathy = Acknowledging another's person feelings.

Empathy = Mutual feelings of another person's pain.

Empathy can only be felt when you have experienced the same as the person you are emphathizing with. For instance, if a parent loses a child but you have not...you can only sympathize with that person. There is no way you can feel empathy. On the other hands, if you have lost a child too, you can then emphathize with the person because you know how it feels as you've been into their shoes before. Understand?

Empathy is understanding another person's feelings from their viewpoint, from their experiences and feeling since you've been through what they've went through.

Sympathy is more like putting yourself in anothers "shoes" and experiencing how you would feel if you were in their position.

As for my educational level, I have a bachelor degree as I've stated before. No, I don't have a degree in English, I know what I'm talking about. Since you were being nice in your post and was willing to actually learn something without insulting, I'd return that favor also an leave it at that. :P Next time, don't try to fix me. Thanks.




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Eldorado ftw! :)

+1 , gz DEUS ,

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. And IceCrash you are a stupid Portugese... so GTFO. Thank you.


Why are you beeing racist :((


+1, That part was really unnecessary.

I think it's obvious now this thread has really been derailed from the point.


The point is that I hate it when people who don't know English make a stupid post about English grammar when they should stay the heck out. Him being Portugese replying to a retarded kid saying "OMG I think you are right!" is ludicrous.

I had to put retarded people like "non ego man" and IceCrash in their place. Mentally challenged people trying to act all smart correcting people's grammar...


You have no right to 'put people in their place'. You are not admin, and pulling racist bullshit like that is completely out of line.

You've ALL derailed this topic enough. Get back on subject.

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Way to hijack a thread!!!

Grats on level 78, just 2 more levels and you're capped! But there is the farming.. maxing out new skills.. good luck!

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Well, as I said before, we'll need to agree to disagree about empathy and sympathy because it appears that what you are saying agrees almost identically with the medical definition, except with the terms reversed. Maybe they got them backwards in the article I cut and paste from. Again, there's not much more to argue on this point so I'll let it drop.

And my bringing up your education should just be a reminder not to assume you have more education than a person simply because you disagree with that person. Calling someone 10 years old and stupid and uneducated is both incorrect and flaming. Fact is, I have a much higher level of education than you. I don't bring up my age or my education on these forums because I let people take my arguments at face value, as I do theirs.

And one last time (hopefully final word in this thread) congrats on 78. Keep it going.


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Stupid Farking ****** go buy some more Farking gold you Farking dumb Farking cunt muffin telly tubby. Tell me, Botting guild, a person who claims to be legit but buys gold, how does this fit? What makes me even more sick is that you asked me and a friend if were selling gold in the server, GG. You were in Malk, everyone in malk bought gold and still does. So lemme guess you bought your sun sword for 9m? Someone tried to put 999m but they put in 9m? Story doesnt fit it sorry bud, back to BUYING MORE AND MORE GOLD AND Farking UP THE SERVER ECONOMY ****** ASS BITCH.


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nonegoman, your post is stupid. you got own3d. u fixed d2u and he put you in your place. dude even my 10 year old son knows what those two word mean. this is the internet and u can say stupid shit like "i have much higher level education" but in the end anyone can claim anything. oh yeah u have a PhD and still dont know basic english foundation. yeah :roll: u sure act stupid for someone with anything beyond a middle school education


and PeeN wtf? why are you accusing him of buying gold and botting? enough with the accusations. so what if he bots everyone bots. congrats him for reaching his level.


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ooooh, he bought gold. lol, so what =S

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Im not accusing you **** face noob i know this shit, he plays in my Farking server. So what if he bought gold? ITS ILLEGAL YOU Farking IMMIGRANT GO AHEAD BUY GOLD AND **** UP THE SERVER ECONOMY ITS ALREADY farked UP go jump in front of a bus you cunt faced monkey


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