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Again with the nuking! Can you get off that?! I already told you I obviously know simply nuking does nothing, it was just weird that a s/s nuker didn't even nuke, he could have found plenty of chances to slap a nuke then go for the KD.

Your signature tells me your build is going to be int based for the finals.

I swear, you people and your 1 track mind.......


P.S. I hope you don't see this as flaming, I was simply stating my opinion and am proceeding to defend it.

His signature is about World of Warcraft....

There was really only one place I woulda nuked for the S/s nuker, since the nukes get owned by a bow with the new arrow combo. I reckon he shoulda nuked after that ghost spear. Bow would probably have died....I honestly don't think it was a great build lol.

One track mind, eh? I guess taking what worked last year and refining it a bit is a bad thing.

Cuch together with nightv WON GNGWC last year. they are already inactive on isro, they are just back to defend their championship belt.

i think after he won GNGWC, cuch left his botpolice/blader/ANBU union on troy and made this new killer build on Tibet. that pawnerz build is no longer a secret. Pinay and nightv had the same build even long before GNGWC occured.

.....that didn't make sense again. I was talking about you talking about nukes, and you answer with refining a build....
The bold part was an edit so I guess I didn't put it where it was supposed to be and that threw you off thinking I was bashing int builds. I would not bash my own build...too much...I guess it could have been misleading.

PS. I know his signature is about WoW, my point about the signature was that he was probably an int build since he played a mage in WoW. Since he probably goes for the damage dealing builds, I suggested his current build was int based.

I play (note the present tense) a mage in WoW, yes. My first character in sro was a pure str blader that was 69 when I quit it. My second was a 73 hybrid int which I quit because I basically beat the game (first on my server to hit 72, I even beat the botters with my good planning, killed Yarkan a few times).

A S/S int's best chance at survival is not to nuke at all. It's KD and stabs. Deals lots of damage due to strong imbues and it's very difficult for your opponent to hurt you since he doesn't have enough straight dps time to get the 2-3 crits in a row he needs to kill you. Standing there and nuking is asking to get GSMed, SSSed or chain crit by both and die.

I'm arguing with you because your proposed method of 1v1 PvP is honestly not the best way to approach it.

I made the note about refining my build for the main round because you seemed to have assumed I was obsessed with int based builds and would therefore ignorantly choose one without considering other builds, which is just not the case.

If you're going to make a statement like "Man, I have a feeling I would have raped everyone if I was a contestant....", you'd better have the best god-damn build and strat this side of the universe. I pointed out the flaws in your plan which would have probably resulted in you losing. My second match during the prelim, I made one mistake, then a second. The second mistake was not going straight for KD/Stabs immediately. I lost that round fairly quickly (prolly got crit hard at least once). Luckily I rebounded and won the rubber match, but it could've gone either way if I had made another stupid mistake.

It's the stupid mistakes that'll tear you up. I saw someone with a poor build WIN their match because they made the best of what they had.

Cuchulain was one of the strongest on the server the first few days of 80 cap in Tibet, and he or Xone probably would've gotten the 1st yarkan kill if they hadn't dc'd. This guy knows how to play builds all of types, and I'll say from my experience and observation that having an absolutely set plan for PvP (I'll do this and this and this and this regardless of what they do) doesn't work very well. You have to adapt to your opponent too.

It was never really a set plan simply because of the chance issue. KD is not 100% and even you went for KD+ stabs every time, and I went for chains (which if you noticed start off with reducing damage on myself before anything else), and a nuke after the chains, chances are impotent will land more often than you could KD simple because there are more chances for it to land. And if it does I won't have to worry about getting beat real fast because of the reduced damage.
Both trying to land impotent and trying to KD the enemy are defensive start strategies, while doing damage. While you start off with KD, I phantom in, so even with the first shot being a nuke, I am already chaining with cold as the opponent nukes and if they KD, then who cares since I am almost sure I won't die right off the bat from KD and stabs because of the extra defense.

I will admit I never had a high level Chinese, but I have tried every build, and I know the capabilities of most of the skills in each build so I can make up defensive or offensive strategies against every build on the spot as I PvP.

I play the game with quick wins in mind because I know there will always be someone out there who knows more than me and if I can win before they realize my weakness then I can keep that weakness hidden.

And just because you were first to be level 72, does not mean there weren't any other first to be level 72 people on the other servers. If you want to impress me, then simply post your videos from GNGWC [after it's over so you don't get beat because of it]. If you are great at PvP then I am sure I will notice.

PS. Well, excuse me for reading 3 pages of posts with people who don't seem to know very much writing down builds without explaining their strengths and wanting to show them how it's done properly.

Well, I can't run fraps on my home computer because it's a piece of shit. I'll be playing on a different computer for the competition since it's at an internet cafe.

I never claimed to be the first 72 SRO-wide, I claimed to be the first 72 on my server and I was.

You can't "try every build" if you've never had a decently high level character. What looks good on paper usually just isn't practical in real situations. Also, playing for quick wins is gonna get you burned a good amount of the time. While killing the other guy before he figures out how to beat you is all fine and dandy, if you can't pull it off because the weakness you perceive in him isn't real, you're in for a world of hurt.

I don't have to prove to you at GNG that I know what I'm talking about because guess what? I won it last year, so I must have done something right. I'm pretty confident in my chances this year since I'm going in with more knowledge about the competition and what is required than most other people. This puts me at a competitive advantage.

preach it cuch.

the worst thing of all is...
why the heck only some countries can join this GNGWC...

Should of stopped right there tbh.

It is not like I've never seen level 80s PvP. The only difference between me seeing the PvP and you actually doing it is that you are in control while I can only give advice which is not usually appreciated since "Noobs don't know how to PvP". It really isn't hard to come up with a good PvP strategy when you know the skills of yourself and your opponent.

...and cuchulainn.... I never said you have to prove anything, I said IF you want to impress me.

Also, since all skills repeat themselves after 32, you can get a feel for a build without needing to be higher level. Granted, some of the dynamics of the skills change, the basics are still there.

Problem is, did you realize that most of these lvl 80's went down really hard in the competition? True, people can do well if they know the game, but you have to have some experience or have observed someone who is ACTUALLY skilled, like cuchulain. If you chain, their KD interrupts it. Couple of cycles of KD and other moves that a really good player uses (I do not claim to be a good player, but I have been taught by the two best), such as Xone or cuchulain, and you're pretty much dead.
Let's look at all the lvl 80's results: post all the 80's and non-80's here and we will be able to see which percentage got through (post people from your server!). This is partly to get back on topic . From Pacific: SunMaiden, Brue, OpheLia, _SunTzu_ (aka Xone).

SunMaiden-Don't know. Lvl 80.
Brue- Believe he didn't make it. Lvl 80.
OpheLia-:( Non-80 (legit!! ^^)
_SunTzu_- o_O? (Legit!! ^^)

agree on this part thou... freedom of speech

YEA +1

SunMaiden = spear hybrid, made it
Hmoob_Blader = s/s hybrid, made it
Brue = unique build focused around spear & force debuffs, didn't make it

list more if you know

also the new way for a s/s or b/s to pvp is to use 4th book smash (fast cooldownd calls for u to be able to use it again after lightning chain, should opponent not be bled or div) & lightning chain till bleed/division, then kd+stabs to ur heart's desire (nukes should only be used as a opening or finishing move). heaven chain should not be used.

Cuchulain (has noob char on Pacific and lvl 72 or 73 or something in Tibet) From Troy--Made it

666moon666 of Tibet--made it

PinguStar of Tibet---did not make it?

it clearly says 8 hours of WoW and 1882 of SRO

Bitches don't know bout respecting Cuch

LOL dude I played with cuch on Tibet he's a great player. Maybe if you look at what I was responding to it will make more sense.

I don't log on xfire much with wow, but my /played on WoW is over 60 days, lol

I would like to direct everyone's attention to http://www.silkroadonline.net/notarget/gngwc2007/gngwcus_lis2.asp

Make sure you notice what's missing. Out of the servers that are always crowded (and I am not sure on this), but Greece seems to be the only one without a participant. Sure, Death2All has a level 80 char that's pretty strong on Greece, but he probably bots like mad since he has a few of those around the servers and even at least one on kSRO and if you saw the Germany posting, he was on there and was shown as an Oasis member.

My point is, the quality of Greece server actually reflects it's status. HORRIBE due to all the botters. No offense to anyone in Greece who actually has skills.

I've seen some of greece's pvp vids.... I reckon they need some help At least some of those sun guys 8D.

so many 4xx gold bots in the screenie and GM aint doin shit ... there ya go .. lol

We all know full 8D suns is a huge sign of either botting or gold buying or both. The problem with the Greece guys is that they just don't know what they are doing half the time because a lot of them are afraid to even PvP anyone else that has sun equips....sad really. Too bad that's all over now that level 72+ euros are rolling in. Sun or not, you just don't survive 20k nukes and 25k crits.

is GNGWC for chinese only?

DO NOT be ignorant. I know plenty of LEGIT people across the servers who have LEGITLY obtained full sosun.

Hey prime example .. Phomaster / nuttybunny on Olympus .. buy's and trdaes ALL DAY. Can safely say hes held 90% of the sun weps on Olympus.

you shouldn't be naive...even if you personally know the player theres always a chance they've bought gold without your knowledge....and if you need proof to see how far ppl will take a lie you can just look at more than half the "legits" on this forum....

cuchulain suddenly reveals himself, stepping from behind a large, thick tree trunk.


He slips off his dark colored silk robe, revealing a rippling six pack, and stares at you. His gaze is intimidating, and that turns you on.

You take note of how tall he is; You can feel his 'presence'.

He lowers his gaze to his own body, almost admiring his own physical condition. With a soft grin, he looks at you with an eyebrow raised....

"Wuts goin' on in dis' thread?!" he asks you excitedly.

You lick your lips, unaware of the heated expression on your face. You catch yourself staring below his waist, and quickly glance away, hoping he didn't notice.

"I heard you like Mudkips..." you whisper softly.

"Oh really?" he replies suggestively.

"Yeah..." you say timidly.

"Really."

He takes a long, slow stride towards you. His stare gives you butterflies.

The idea of being so close to someone whom you believed dangerous, who you were told to stay away from, was enticing. You raise your eyes to his, and you once again realize your gaze had been wandering.

Surprised at your own enjoyment, you press your lips together, trying to stifle a flirtacious smirk.
The idea of being with someone so different was exciting, different and taboo.

He places a hand on your left shoulder, and gently traces a line down your cheek with his other. His skin was cold and rough, and goosebumps rose around his touch; the hair on the back of your neck stands.

"You not supposed to be here..." he states cooly.
"'Tis dangerous parts for a young female."

You instinctively take a small step backwards, but his grip tightens. He now has both hands on your shoulders, and his grip is powerful. His dominance is almost frightening, and you are surprised as to how long the Fear lasts. It should have worn off by now...

And yet, you still feel helpless.