Joined: Jan 2007 Posts: 2547 Location: The Netherlands
Crumpets wrote:
borat2 wrote:
The comment about vortex1337 being one of the first full melee is just bullshit.
How ?
He made Vortex1337 in the first week euro came out or so and went full melee from there. He wasn't a mediocre idiot who first went cleric then went melee.
There have been more from day 1 on each server too bad most lost interest in the build when getting higher or from being brainwashed by warrior/cleric movies, you can consider him as the first or one of the first worth mentioning since he seek the attention, from each build in sro there is always a copy how retarded the build might be, this game is far from unique.
The only thing that amazed me from vortex is the fact he had such a nice build but never showed if he had any control, lightheart is the first that actual showed the potentials and the real danger of this build, glad vortex is learning. just watch the older movies of vortex and u will understand what i am talking about, but i guess you already agree with me that he never used his build correctly until this movie that comes close to well ...controlling his char.
@nitro watch the older movies of vortex then tell me if he didn't copy? you cant be that stubborn to realize its no coincidence.
@nitro watch the older movies of vortex then tell me if he didn't copy? you cant be that stubborn to realize its no coincidence.
Yeah I agree with you, I've watched his every video over zillion times... He did copy, but guess what, he knows more now, and that is improving him... But Lighthearth wasnt the first one who used Warriors and Rogues skills together...
I mean, its not all about KD and wounding ... I've seen Vortex using xBow when someone started to run milion times, before Lightheart video came out... Biggest reason why Vortex used 2h sword from beggining only, is that he didnt have SP to farm other skills. First he had 2h and xBow, then he farmed 1h skills and axes, and at end Daggers.
About first full melee build, yes he is, atleast first capped one.
_________________ Thanks Noobs_Slayer for signature.
I still dont learn anything from this new video that he just made. Its basically just a copy from my pvp videos and VN_Warrior's pvp video. And hes still not very smooth in weapon switching and situation anticipations yet. I was trying to post my video as a response to this one so people can relate, but I wasnt allowed to, guess he blocked it......
Yeah? Really? Is that so? Then you are aswell, copying him in using Daredevil, since he is the first one to post a video of using Daredevil...
That is absolutely absurd and in no way changes the notion that Vortex has been incapable of using his build to it's fullest potential since his first video.
Quote:
Biggest reason why Vortex used 2h sword from beggining only, is that he didnt have SP to farm other skills. First he had 2h and xBow, then he farmed 1h skills and axes, and at end Daggers.
I believe (correct me if I'm wrong), Vortex showcased all his weapons (individually) in one of his first PvP videos and then later (using the same concept) showed off his weapons individually. He did not start actively swapping between weapons until after he was criticized for lacking "skills"; furthermore, despite his "play-time" his inexperience with this build is glaring. Every critic that has posted in this topic has a very valid point that you seem to be ignoring: Vortex may be the first but he is in no way, shape, or form the best. I am willing to wager that he is nothing more than a Generic Warrior that can't unleash the full fury of his sub class. One must expect such harsh criticism when they show off a lackluster video.
Quote:
he actually videoed a pvp with a wizard in the 80 cap, and totally destroyed the guy..
I know the video you speak of and Vortex would have lost had the Wizard known how to play his build properly.
Joined: Jul 2008 Posts: 183 Location: Far Far Away =)
the question is. that guys is full melee soo 5 weapons and 1 shield isnt that a lot of weapons? and btw he have 5 of 6 cloths sun... D9 and 2h sun lv 76.... is that fair? U_______U"
I still dont learn anything from this new video that he just made. Its basically just a copy from my pvp videos and VN_Warrior's pvp video. And hes still not very smooth in weapon switching and situation anticipations yet. I was trying to post my video as a response to this one so people can relate, but I wasnt allowed to, guess he blocked it......
Yeah? Really? Is that so? Then you are aswell, copying him in using Daredevil, since he is the first one to post a video of using Daredevil...
I do know, alot of guys took your KD + Wounds, but I like his video more than yours, sorry its just how it is... And when someone posts a video, doesnt mean that in that video there must be something New undescovered ...
Its your fault that you shared that with whole community (KD + wounds) ... Now everyone uses it, face it.
Lool, if I dont want everyone to know how t use KD+ dagger, then I would not have posted my pvp videos in the first place. And you said I learned from him how to use daredevil Its only the strongest skill in warrior class, what do I have to learn from it Once you reach 80, its right there for you to use lool Daredevil alone is useless unless u know when to use it, its simply a no brainer
Funny thing is people were whining about his last video, that he only used warrior skills, now he starts using rogue hoping that people will stop whining but no..
@above poster you are contradicting yourself there
@ahmedsabry +9999 Thanks for doing me a favor, I'm starting to dislike SRF more and more, because of ignorant jelaous guys and cant be arsed to type anything ... wasting my time for what? Nothing...
Someone gets Sun weapon, everyone is jelaous
Someone posts video, and there is loader using, topic turns into 6 pages of "OMFG Loader"
Someone makes a video of him PvPing, bunch of hypocrites ONLY criticize
Sorry guys, but even if he is botter, I respect him... Because if you think that all he done is pressing "Start botting", you are wrong. There is much effort and cash putted into game, Yes! there is from Vortex's side ... if the "Start Botting" is key to success for Sun equipment, everyone would have it... So yeah, its not easy to bot either. I personally think that if someone bots, he wastes more time / life / energy than legit one. Why? Example - People who bot cannot sleep since they wake up in 2 Am to check did they disconnect/die or w/e, babisitting his bot etc etc... Legits atleast sleep tight. On a side note, I dont know does Vortex bots or not.
Vortex has been here since 80th cap, he made alot of great videos, he didnt play as good as he does now, since he learned some new styles... but he is improving himself towards better and better ... and he is superb now anyway ~ whats going to happen later on?. Yes he has my respect
Anyway, I dont want to turn this into lets-talk-about-bots topic. I'm starting to be sick of some guys here on SRF.
if you start respecting botters here and there...you're gonna send the wrong message to this community into thinking that botting will get you respect! i don't care how famous or pro you - as per guidelines, botters shouldn't be commended for any credit
note: sounds like you're on the line for pro-botters out there...better becareful what you say next time
_________________ Who's this up-herself-biaaatch I tell ya??? I want some PIZZA *mooch*
lets not turn this into "he is botting, oh and he is botting too" and "omg u are stupid, i'm the best.. hey you are the one who is stupid, i'm the man" thingy.. vortex bots? who knows? the video is fantastic? yes vortex learned from light_heart and VN_warrior? thats actually a healthy thing vortex lacks skill NOW ? no he doesnt, and thats what matters not if he was a noob b4
VN, Abel, and Lightheart > Vortex. That cannot be disputed.
so what? the video is still gr8 ! all the editing, music, and the pvp itself.. just gr8 thats what im talking about.. they guy used to lack enough skill to use his build to its optimum potential, but he's improving. maybe in a very short time he will be better than any other warrior in silkroad if he contues like that. he's already done something light_heart didnt do (combining axes with 2H for status). even if he's not the 1st to do it, or if he's copying someone else.. he still did something light_heart didnt do. not that light_heart is a noob or anything, i light_heart and vortex himself admitted that light_heart plays the build better than himself, but the guy is getting better! final thing.. vortex made some huge contribution to SRO pvp videos in general. his videos aren't just about the pvp, they are entertaining to watch even if u know absolutely nothing about silkroad. maybe if others start making videos that nice -and by nice i mean nicely edited, and well chosen music and all- and not just focus about the content of the pvp, they might just earn the same love vortex has worked hard for.
Every topic turns into a bot hunt...cant you people leave him alone. ITS A GAME OMGZ HE USES A PROGRAM!! BANZ HIM! you people need to shut up with bot crap with every single person.
One of his better video's so far..i hope he keeps making more, just not of him killing my Uni members.
hmm it was a great video tbh. to the people saying he copied Light_Heart and stuff, well he pretty much learned from them, doesnt mean copying ~,~. anyways, i woulda liked it if there were less suns in those duels. i also liked how he showed himslef dieing in the last duel, shows that he is good, but not invincible (rather than a pvp video only showing the parts u won).
and i saw lightheart's and vn_warrior's pvp videos aswell. they were awesome (vn is the fastest weapon switcher i have ever seen lol).
_________________ let it gooooo let it gooooOoOooOOOOOO
Let her suck my pistol She open up her mouth and then I blow her brains out
I like vortex, but he is definitely a botter and gold buyer. I was in Europeans when it was new, the VANITY union etc etc. I haven't been in it forever, but I pm him now and then and hes always respectful. How many legits do you know that are 90.....I can't name any on Olympus. Now how many non-gold buyers do you know with almost full 9dg sun?
inb4 OMG YOU SUPPORT BOTS AND GOLD BUYING OMG OMG OMG
I like vortex, but he is indeed a cheater. At least hes not like angelin1, using 7 90 chars to buff and then go around killing everyone. And at whoever said Rock18 and Eludario can 2v1 her and win, the sucky part is now she just uses eagle1, her 90 galvier, with the 34% damage increases.
first of all, i can name a few level 90 legits,
Soleida Euraido Not sure if Rock18 hit 90 yet. __FREYA_
and theres bound to be more just check de Dutc_Honour union,
Also even so Angelin will die if she gets 2 overheal's then glavier wont kill them in 1 hit since they are both warrior/cleric.. (Euraido and Rock18)
_________________ Server: Ephesus [Active] Name: Luniz Lvl 48 - 0 gap Pure Int S/S
@ahmedsabry +9999 Thanks for doing me a favor, I'm starting to dislike SRF more and more, because of ignorant jelaous guys and cant be arsed to type anything ... wasting my time for what? Nothing...
Someone gets Sun weapon, everyone is jelaous
Someone posts video, and there is loader using, topic turns into 6 pages of "OMFG Loader"
Someone makes a video of him PvPing, bunch of hypocrites ONLY criticize
Sorry guys, but even if he is botter, I respect him... Because if you think that all he done is pressing "Start botting", you are wrong. There is much effort and cash putted into game, Yes! there is from Vortex's side ... if the "Start Botting" is key to success for Sun equipment, everyone would have it... So yeah, its not easy to bot either. I personally think that if someone bots, he wastes more time / life / energy than legit one. Why? Example - People who bot cannot sleep since they wake up in 2 Am to check did they disconnect/die or w/e, babisitting his bot etc etc... Legits atleast sleep tight. On a side note, I dont know does Vortex bots or not.
Vortex has been here since 80th cap, he made alot of great videos, he didnt play as good as he does now, since he learned some new styles... but he is improving himself towards better and better ... and he is superb now anyway ~ whats going to happen later on?. Yes he has my respect
Anyway, I dont want to turn this into lets-talk-about-bots topic. I'm starting to be sick of some guys here on SRF.
if you start respecting botters here and there...you're gonna send the wrong message to this community into thinking that botting will get you respect! i don't care how famous or pro you - as per guidelines, botters shouldn't be commended for any credit
note: sounds like you're on the line for pro-botters out there...better becareful what you say next time
Ask whoever you want, they will tell you do I bot or not. I've learned alot of things spending time with botters (here comes Vandango, Chaby, Sylhana etc etc), and if I respect botter, its my thing ... and if he only botted to 90, I wouldnt respect him ...
I'm not respecting Vortex because of botting, its because things he done. Once again, on a side note, I do not know does Vortex bots, but whatever he does, he will be great in my eyes.
_________________ Thanks Noobs_Slayer for signature.
I probably need to get around to making another pvp video, I just dont find pvp all that fun anymore with all the safe zone, clericing, bards, warriors buffing a party of people who just go around ganking eachother.
_________________
"I'm not an evolved being, how dare you call me that" - Christian
EVERYONE on Olympus knows, EVERYONE ( ok i better say each active player, who doesn´t bot 24/7, so goldbots don´t know it lol)
Phix wrote:
Shadowfox542 wrote:
I like vortex, but he is definitely a botter and gold buyer. I was in Europeans when it was new, the VANITY union etc etc. I haven't been in it forever, but I pm him now and then and hes always respectful. How many legits do you know that are 90.....I can't name any on Olympus. Now how many non-gold buyers do you know with almost full 9dg sun?
inb4 OMG YOU SUPPORT BOTS AND GOLD BUYING OMG OMG OMG
I like vortex, but he is indeed a cheater. At least hes not like angelin1, using 7 90 chars to buff and then go around killing everyone. And at whoever said Rock18 and Eludario can 2v1 her and win, the sucky part is now she just uses eagle1, her 90 galvier, with the 34% damage increases.
first of all, i can name a few level 90 legits,
Soleida Euraido Not sure if Rock18 hit 90 yet. __FREYA_
and theres bound to be more just check de Dutc_Honour union,
Or check GER_DreamZ union, Jadis and Guntminus are already legit lvl 90, too, and we got some players on their best way to 90.
P.S. don´t flame me, cause i didn´t said ANYTHING about this vid, i just watched like 2 Mins or so and quit, why should i watch a vid from someone who is a bit good in pvp, but just made like 10 lvls per hand? doesn´t make sense for me!
_________________
Prepared for Valhallas Awesomeness? Open the spoiler!
VN, Abel, and Lightheart > Vortex. That cannot be disputed.
Could you clarify this? In what way
I'd have to say, and this is my OWN PERSONAL OPINION, that Albel is a bit better at playing his build. Don't get me wrong, Vortex knows how to play his build, but can he get better, certainly.
I won't deny that I'd LOVE to have his set @_@, oh the possibilities...lol
_________________
Quote:
We should stop treating people like objects, or at least treat our objects with more respect.
I probably need to get around to making another pvp video, I just dont find pvp all that fun anymore with all the safe zone, clericing, bards, warriors buffing a party of people who just go around ganking eachother.
What does albelnox do that vortex doesn't? cuz I dont understand in what way one warrior can be better than another
Abel switches almost as fast as VN and uses a move set that we haven't seen from Vortex. VN is just beast. Doesn't use bless or skins and his transition from axes to 2h is the smoothest I have seen. Lightheart has the same build as Vortex but has a better mastery over it than him. Vortex is learning how to use his build (that's a good thing) and he has incorporated axes into his chain of attack. It's only a matter of time before he truly becomes better than the rest, but until that happens (if that happens) he's still mediocre.
I probably need to get around to making another pvp video, I just dont find pvp all that fun anymore with all the safe zone, clericing, bards, warriors buffing a party of people who just go around ganking eachother.
we'll be looking forward to that
Amen to that. Can't wait to see whats in store for the next vapore movie.
_________________ << banned for proof of botting. -cin >>
Everyone with an IQ higher than 50 knows that Vortex isn't legit, but that's not the point of the discussion, right? It's about his video, if you don't like it, if you don't like him, then don't post. Personally I don't like him cause he's a hypocrite, acts legit and stuff, but you don't see me fighting in the thread, relax people, no need to take everything so anal. The video wasn't bad, Just the fights werent fair, 5 sun heavy armor parts, prolly +6/+7 accessory set fighting mostly str chars, NO way I would think that he would win..hence it's boring, and his vids are boring cause he's trying to increase the size of his e-peen with it, not cause he likes to make vids. And about people crying "he stole pvp methodz from <insert name here> omg" didn't we all learn something from someone else? Atleast I did.
lets not turn this into "he is botting, oh and he is botting too" and "omg u are stupid, i'm the best.. hey you are the one who is stupid, i'm the man" thingy.. vortex bots? who knows? Everyone on Olympus the video is fantastic? yes vortex learned from light_heart and VN_warrior? thats actually a healthy thing vortex lacks skill NOW ? no he doesnt, and thats what matters not if he was a noob b4
What does albelnox do that vortex doesn't? cuz I dont understand in what way one warrior can be better than another
Abel switches almost as fast as VN and uses a move set that we haven't seen from Vortex. VN is just beast. Doesn't use bless or skins and his transition from axes to 2h is the smoothest I have seen. Lightheart has the same build as Vortex but has a better mastery over it than him. Vortex is learning how to use his build (that's a good thing) and he has incorporated axes into his chain of attack. It's only a matter of time before he truly becomes better than the rest, but until that happens (if that happens) he's still mediocre.
Theres a problem tho, when you have time try to log on olympus to see how laggy it is when you switch weapons or do anything basically. I know I have a warlock warrior lv87, and almost every time when i switch to 2h/1h it lags for 3 seconds. So what you've seen from vortex is olympus on a good day lol
edit: im sure you've seen the lag after an archer does knockback, its like that all the time usually :s. The server sucks, its too crowded and the server isnt fit to handle it
He's good and has the weapon switch down to an art. Knows when to switch and which weap to switch to. also...the +9 and the sun 2h make me jealous.
there was one pvp that stood out most to me. at 4:45 against the sun spear, unless the nuker was using baro's build, then he wasn't a very good pvper. He fought like he was fighting a int char. ss>ss>gs he should have opened with a nuke and then ss>ss>gs. at least then the nuke might have given enough dmg for the combo to actually kill. if it didn't he should phantom away and start over. pvping a warrior with all phy attacks.....
the only time he died was at the very end which was after what?
a nuke.
Last edited by thepuma on Sun Sep 14, 2008 3:23 pm, edited 1 time in total.
Users browsing this forum: No registered users and 8 guests
You cannot post new topics in this forum You cannot reply to topics in this forum You cannot edit your posts in this forum You cannot delete your posts in this forum You cannot post attachments in this forum
Its only the strongest skill in warrior class, what do I have to learn from it 
Daredevil alone is useless unless u know when to use it, its simply a no brainer 
light_heart and vortex himself admitted that light_heart plays the build better than himself, but the guy is getting better!
