2h/cleric pvp at lvl 1-70?

xxbrentonxx · **Joined:** Sep 2008 **Posts:** 257 **Location:**

So what and how do you guys pvp in those level brackets on 2h/clerics, there is no dare devil, triple swing and mana skin before 80, 70 and 75 respectively so in most videos you see them using dare devil + triple swing comboes and mana skin against high hitting nukers and wizs.

Nitro · **Joined:** Sep 2007 **Posts:** 4769 **Location:**

You can still win, its harder, since you dont have pimped set (lack of MP for casting healing cycle).

xxbrentonxx · **Joined:** Sep 2008 **Posts:** 257 **Location:**

MP for Healing cycle is really no problem just its a bit hard swapping every 14 seconds and i dont really have my F# bars set out right. (all cleric on f2, all warrior on F3, pots-pills-kits F1)

Nitro · **Joined:** Sep 2007 **Posts:** 4769 **Location:**

xxbrentonxx wrote:

MP for Healing cycle is really no problem just its a bit hard swapping every 14 seconds and i dont really have my F# bars set out right. (all cleric on f2, all warrior on F3, pots-pills-kits F1)

Swapping aint problem, trust me , MP is. (Unless you are spamming Vigors 25% like hell).

BloodyBlade · **Posted:** Sat Nov 01, 2008 12:01 pm

Nitro wrote:

xxbrentonxx wrote:

MP for Healing cycle is really no problem just its a bit hard swapping every 14 seconds and i dont really have my F# bars set out right. (all cleric on f2, all warrior on F3, pots-pills-kits F1)

Swapping aint problem, trust me , MP is. (Unless you are spamming Vigors 25% like hell).

I've never had any mp problems with healing cycle..(Im a rogue btw=>pure str)

xxbrentonxx · **Joined:** Sep 2008 **Posts:** 257 **Location:**

Nitro wrote:

xxbrentonxx wrote:

MP for Healing cycle is really no problem just its a bit hard swapping every 14 seconds and i dont really have my F# bars set out right. (all cleric on f2, all warrior on F3, pots-pills-kits F1)

Swapping aint problem, trust me , MP is. (Unless you are spamming Vigors 25% like hell).

I cant see the fight lasting anymore than anythign worth more than 1 healing cycle.

Nitro · **Joined:** Sep 2007 **Posts:** 4769 **Location:**

BloodyBlade wrote:

Nitro wrote:

xxbrentonxx wrote:

MP for Healing cycle is really no problem just its a bit hard swapping every 14 seconds and i dont really have my F# bars set out right. (all cleric on f2, all warrior on F3, pots-pills-kits F1)

Swapping aint problem, trust me , MP is. (Unless you are spamming Vigors 25% like hell).

I've never had any mp problems with healing cycle..(Im a rogue btw=>pure str)

Do you wear NPC set? Like I did and most of us xd

BloodyBlade · **Posted:** Sat Nov 01, 2008 12:27 pm

Nope, no npc set for me, tho I only have 2 int on my legs =p

Nixie · **Joined:** Aug 2007 **Posts:** 1108 **Location:**

Doesn't matter. A rogue will NEVER drain mana to the point when it will say "Insufficient MP", while a warrior with warrior skills alone can get the message. A warrior simply consumes a lot more MP than a rogue. I know it, I'm speaking from my own experience.

KoRniziWa · **Joined:** Jul 2007 **Posts:** 89 **Location:** germany

i dont see the problem?!

you got bless, you got the blessings, you got healings, maddening, double swing + bash....

pvp <80 = pvp >80 if you're fullfarmed

there isnt much mana problems even in npc set...

Nitro · **Joined:** Sep 2007 **Posts:** 4769 **Location:**

KoRniziWa wrote:

i dont see the problem?!

you got bless, you got the blessings, you got healings, maddening, double swing + bash....

pvp <80 = pvp >80 if you're fullfarmed

there isnt much mana problems even in npc set...

You clearly dont know what you are talking about...
Oh yeah, and Daredevil is waaay too overpowered.

Yeah, there are mana problems in NPC sets.
You cant spam healing cycle as you would in fully pimped capped gear.

BalkanFanaticS · **Joined:** Nov 2007 **Posts:** 768 **Location:**

level up noob

KoRniziWa · **Joined:** Jul 2007 **Posts:** 89 **Location:** germany

you are kidding noob... i know what im talking about

you got less problems in npc set than a lvl60 chinese nuker in npc set, for sure

only cuz u noob spam cycles, not everyone does. 14sec time to recast it is long enough to take one xlarge pot... dont talk about things you dont understand

against other npcs, maddening is still ownage... even in snow you can 1hit ints ... isnt much harder to pvp

LillDev!l · **Joined:** Aug 2007 **Posts:** 2587 **Location:** OTL&OG

i have a level 42 warrior, i just use bless > healing cycle, and use axes to stun/bleed, switch to 2-hand, knockdown, double swing > maddening.
kinda how i pvp i guess >.<

Nitro · **Joined:** Sep 2007 **Posts:** 4769 **Location:**

KoRniziWa wrote:

you are kidding noob... i know what im talking about

you got less problems in npc set than a lvl60 chinese nuker in npc set, for sure

only cuz u noob spam cycles, not everyone does. 14sec time to recast it is long enough to take one xlarge pot... dont talk about things you dont understand

against other npcs, maddening is still ownage... even in snow you can 1hit ints ... isnt much harder to pvp

Yeah... Recovery Divison takes 100% of your MP in NPC set.
Healing Cycle takes 50% of your MP in NPC set.
You recast healing cycle every 15 seconds, you repot every 15 seconds.
You use skills each second, and sometime you need to cast recovery to heal your ass.

I dont know how in the world, can you use skills without worrying about your MP, like you can with pimped gear.

Nixie · **Joined:** Aug 2007 **Posts:** 1108 **Location:**

Someone who's not playing a warrior/cleric can NOT know how it is like. Believe me, I've got some blues on my gear and if I cast recovery division I'll be left with 500 MP, a potion is used and I'm back at about 2k MP, cast healing cycle and I'm again down to 1k MP or even less... and my warrior skills I'd use in the next 15 seconds would cost a LOT more than that lousy 1k MP. I should also mention that I'm fully farmed, but I do not level up the healing skills to the max because I just couldn't recover MP fast enough.

The only solution to this problem is either a bard (not for a PvP, more in parties) or grains. And myself... have a lot of them (2x 4 slots of the storage on 2 accounts

).

_Scarlett_ · **Joined:** Jan 2007 **Posts:** 1567 **Location:**

Nitro wrote:

Do you wear NPC set? Like I did and most of us xd

God...lol I refused to wear npc from like Lv42 up. It surprises me whenever someone Lv5x+ says they're wearing npc. It makes me almost want to go into town and buy them gears XD

LillDev!l · **Joined:** Aug 2007 **Posts:** 2587 **Location:** OTL&OG

_Scarlett_ wrote:

Nitro wrote:

Do you wear NPC set? Like I did and most of us xd

God...lol I refused to wear npc from like Lv42 up. It surprises me whenever someone Lv5x+ says they're wearing npc. It makes me almost want to go into town and buy them gears XD

i want to pfarm my char at level 55 with my main, so wont buy real gear for him :oops:

but i still pvp with him once in a while, so i buy npc >.<

Nixie · **Joined:** Aug 2007 **Posts:** 1108 **Location:**

_Scarlett_ wrote:

Nitro wrote:

Do you wear NPC set? Like I did and most of us xd

God...lol I refused to wear npc from like Lv42 up. It surprises me whenever someone Lv5x+ says they're wearing npc. It makes me almost want to go into town and buy them gears XD

I am FORCED to buy NPC gear. I simply can never find any gear. Maybe one or two parts, but everything else will be just opposite gender. <_<

fckerr · **Joined:** Mar 2008 **Posts:** 1914 **Location:** Bulgaria

Nitro wrote:

KoRniziWa wrote:

you are kidding noob... i know what im talking about

you got less problems in npc set than a lvl60 chinese nuker in npc set, for sure

only cuz u noob spam cycles, not everyone does. 14sec time to recast it is long enough to take one xlarge pot... dont talk about things you dont understand

against other npcs, maddening is still ownage... even in snow you can 1hit ints ... isnt much harder to pvp

Yeah... Recovery Divison takes 100% of your MP in NPC set.
Healing Cycle takes 50% of your MP in NPC set.
You recast healing cycle every 15 seconds, you repot every 15 seconds.
You use skills each second, and sometime you need to cast recovery to heal your ass.

I dont know how in the world, can you use skills without worrying about your MP, like you can with pimped gear.

U are so damn right, thats the reason I gave up my warrior/cleric lv 42 with 100k sp left ...

Nitro · **Joined:** Sep 2007 **Posts:** 4769 **Location:**

fckerr wrote:

Nitro wrote:

KoRniziWa wrote:

you are kidding noob... i know what im talking about

you got less problems in npc set than a lvl60 chinese nuker in npc set, for sure

only cuz u noob spam cycles, not everyone does. 14sec time to recast it is long enough to take one xlarge pot... dont talk about things you dont understand

against other npcs, maddening is still ownage... even in snow you can 1hit ints ... isnt much harder to pvp

Yeah... Recovery Divison takes 100% of your MP in NPC set.
Healing Cycle takes 50% of your MP in NPC set.
You recast healing cycle every 15 seconds, you repot every 15 seconds.
You use skills each second, and sometime you need to cast recovery to heal your ass.

I dont know how in the world, can you use skills without worrying about your MP, like you can with pimped gear.

U are so damn right, thats the reason I gave up my warrior/cleric lv 42 with 100k sp left ...

Well you shouldnt have, you will have plenty of MP when you are playing a capped Warrior with pimped gear. (especially when vigoring).

I lolled so hard when Chabz made his first Euro (idk was it his first), he made Warrior/Warlock ... and always, he would debuff, and then he would run out of MP ... and everytime he would stand there waiting for MP pot... He'd always said "Crappy euros"

I dont know how Warrior/Warlocks deal with MP.

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