The End of Legits?

selenne · **Joined:** Jul 2008 **Posts:** 1176 **Location:**

Yesterday i was talkin to my friend, at olympus server, Demonshadow.
We were pvping at samarkand south when he said he was goin to quit. Then i asked why, and with other things, he said the cap 100+ (110, 120...) would be the end of legit players.
That made me think. We're already watchin bots own everything, and do everything that only a legit player could do in the past. Now they buff, repot, put items in storage, party grind, etc etc etc... Servers like Olympus, where i am, have now like 2 legit unions. Only.

And if its already hard to lvl now, imagine at cap 100 or 110... And more: sox items, fortress, everything in cheaters hands.

So, id thought i could creat this topic to know the opinion of the biggest legit forum for SRO:

Is da cap 100+ the end of legits?

sting13 · **Joined:** Aug 2006 **Posts:** 689 **Location:**

Athens only has one legit union, which is mine. And trust me.... sro without bots sucks balls, i logged onto ksro few months ago and i seen maybe 10 people in the whole freaking game.

JKMB · **Joined:** Apr 2008 **Posts:** 822 **Location:**

No! if anything 100 cap helps legits, its almost impossible to bot in ch'in tomb, so even botters are going to have to handgrind to lvl at that point.

Beto_Chavez · **Posted:** Fri Oct 17, 2008 3:49 pm

The end of legits IMHO was when the bot was no longer secret and you could download at several different sites instead of getting it from a friend. This seemed to happen on Oasis upon release of the 80 cap. Short and sweet, end of legits happened at ~80cap.

selenne · **Joined:** Jul 2008 **Posts:** 1176 **Location:**

sting13 wrote:

Athens only has one legit union, which is mine. And trust me.... [i]sro without bots sucks balls[/i], i logged onto ksro few months ago and i seen maybe 10 people in the whole freaking game.

then, it IS the end of legits.

if sro without bots and cheaters "sucks balls", i have no more reasons to play it...

BloodyBlade · **Posted:** Fri Oct 17, 2008 3:54 pm

A guy on my server gets his chars up to lv70~80, then he quits the char and gives it away..
Takes too long to get some nice exp

Lempi · **Joined:** Oct 2008 **Posts:** 3203 **Location:** England

JKMB wrote:

its almost impossible to bot in ch'in tomb, so even botters are going to have to handgrind to lvl at that point.

Oh, trust me, they'll make it work. More money for the bot companys, so they will make it work for sure.

As for the topic, i honestly couldnt care. Silkroad has been bot infested since 70 cap, and it seems Joymax are doing as little as possible to sort the bot problem out. The weekly bans are pathetic, it doesnt ease server traffic and the gold bots are up and running with new chars again in just a few hours.

So is it the end of legits? To be honest, it has been since 70 cap.

BloodyBlade · **Posted:** Fri Oct 17, 2008 4:00 pm

JKMB wrote:

No! if anything 100 cap helps legits, its almost impossible to bot in ch'in tomb, so even botters are going to have to handgrind to lvl at that point.

Oh trust me, you'll see lots of bot in that tomb.

JKMB · **Joined:** Apr 2008 **Posts:** 822 **Location:**

BloodyBlade wrote:

JKMB wrote:

No! if anything 100 cap helps legits, its almost impossible to bot in ch'in tomb, so even botters are going to have to handgrind to lvl at that point.

Oh trust me, you'll see lots of bot in that tomb.

Hmm funny that you and Lempi say that, I know from relible sources that scripting a bot to work in the tomb would be hell due to its size and obstacles, not to mention you have to get keys and things from item chests to procced to some rooms, I guess we shall see but i'm not to worried, besides with the tombs actual size it would be easy to find another spot to grind at.

selenne · **Joined:** Jul 2008 **Posts:** 1176 **Location:**

i agree when u guys say the end of sro had already come. but, why are we all playin? when i say "end of legits" i say there will be no chance for legits be sucessfull as legits, and no reason of benefits for stayin legit.

we still hav a (small) legit comunity and a few guilds. and when all that ends?

Tokughavita · **Joined:** Apr 2006 **Posts:** 789 **Location:**

JKMB wrote:

BloodyBlade wrote:

JKMB wrote:

No! if anything 100 cap helps legits, its almost impossible to bot in ch'in tomb, so even botters are going to have to handgrind to lvl at that point.

Oh trust me, you'll see lots of bot in that tomb.

Hmm funny that you and Lempi say that, I know from relible sources that scripting a bot to work in the tomb would be hell due to its size and obstacles, not to mention you have to get keys and things from item chests to procced to some rooms, I guess we shall see but i'm not to worried, besides with the tombs actual size it would be easy to find another spot to grind at.

Bots can do anything, look at how much they can already do. If you think bots won't be rampant in the tomb then maybe you should quit now and save yourself the frustration, that's all you're going to get out of Joymax for the next year until the next GNGWC

Lempi · **Joined:** Oct 2008 **Posts:** 3203 **Location:** England

JKMB wrote:

Hmm funny that you and Lempi say that, I know from relible sources that scripting a bot to work in the tomb would be hell due to its size and obstacles, not to mention you have to get keys and things from item chests to procced to some rooms, I guess we shall see but i'm not to worried, besides with the tombs actual size it would be easy to find another spot to grind at.

Well, they have it working for DW Stone Cave, and im sure they will find a way of getting the keys. It can already goto storage, npcs, teleport ect.

BloodyBlade · **Posted:** Fri Oct 17, 2008 4:15 pm

JKMB wrote:

BloodyBlade wrote:

JKMB wrote:

No! if anything 100 cap helps legits, its almost impossible to bot in ch'in tomb, so even botters are going to have to handgrind to lvl at that point.

Oh trust me, you'll see lots of bot in that tomb.

Hmm funny that you and Lempi say that, I know from relible sources that scripting a bot to work in the tomb would be hell due to its size and obstacles, not to mention you have to get keys and things from item chests to procced to some rooms, I guess we shall see but i'm not to worried, besides with the tombs actual size it would be easy to find another spot to grind at.

You ever played a version of sro with 100cap?
bots can do anything.

Da_Realest · **Joined:** Apr 2006 **Posts:** 2435 **Location:**

The fact that you're even using the term "legit" to describe the players left who play by the rules says enough.

Lempi wrote:

To be honest, it has been since 70 cap.

Agreed.

selenne wrote:

we still hav a (small) legit comunity and a few guilds. and when all that ends?

If you're "legit" and still playing Silkroad in its current state:

A. You're addicted.
B. You have great friends.
C. You have a few goals you still want to meet.
D. A combination of any of the choices above.

I'm going to say most legit players who still play are addicted.

selenne · **Joined:** Jul 2008 **Posts:** 1176 **Location:**

Da_Realest wrote:

The fact that you're even using the term "legit" to describe the players left who play by the rules says enough.

Lempi wrote:

To be honest, it has been since 70 cap.

Agreed.

selenne wrote:

we still hav a (small) legit comunity and a few guilds. and when all that ends?

If you're "legit" and still playing Silkroad in its current state:

A. You're addicted.
B. You have great friends.
C. You have a few goals you still want to meet.
D. A combination of any of the choices above.

I'm going to say most legit players who still play are addicted.

I'm (a lil) addicted, i hav great friends, but goals... hmmm

iztupido · **Posted:** Fri Oct 17, 2008 4:26 pm

selenne wrote:

i agree when u guys say the end of sro had already come. but, why are we all playin? when i say "end of legits" i say there will be no chance for legits be sucessfull as legits, and no reason of benefits for stayin legit.

we still hav a (small) legit comunity and a few guilds. and when all that ends?

when all that ends (which i think has already happened on most of the servers which are 95% bots) it'll be all bots buying silks not to get banned and joymax keeping the incomming, result = everyone bots

selenne · **Joined:** Jul 2008 **Posts:** 1176 **Location:**

what we're already seein is:

other versions of sro are makin tons of adaptations to not die.
and we listen from ppl who plays ther that all servers hav like 100 active ppl and the rest are bots... sro is, in fact, dieing.

Beto_Chavez · **Posted:** Fri Oct 17, 2008 4:31 pm

Quote:

If you're "legit" and still playing Silkroad in its current state:

A. You're addicted.
B. You have great friends.
C. You have a few goals you still want to meet.
D. A combination of any of the choices above.

I'm going to say most legit players who still play are addicted.

I choose A. and B. (especially B.). The only reason I still play is the amazing friendships I have from the past three years. My friends make the game fun for me.

pr0klobster · **Joined:** Oct 2007 **Posts:** 1427 **Location:**

Nope. We need to get together in parties with other unions/guilds. People who bot...well, I won't shun them, but I'd really like to continue to find parties with Euro's in them.

As for Chin Tomb, I don't know...my guess is that Chinese players will do one of two things. (Feel free to correct me if you have more experience, I played a Chinese char to level 34 and quit. I like party play.)

1. Chinese players will bot to 100 cap, since grinding is so slow and 4-man parties aren't nearly as nice as 8 man Euro party XP gain.
2. Quit

I'll just say right now based on what I see, option 1 seems to be what'll happen. Seems to me some people like to just get capped and pvp, or just do jobbing, while others enjoy the process along the way more so than the actual level cap.

Sure, Euro's can be botted (I guess, I don't know) but why do that and risk banning when you can party?

selenne · **Joined:** Jul 2008 **Posts:** 1176 **Location:**

pr0klobster wrote:

Nope. We need to get together in parties with other unions/guilds. People who bot...well, I won't shun them, but I'd really like to continue to find parties with Euro's in them.

As for Chin Tomb, I don't know...my guess is that Chinese players will do one of two things. (Feel free to correct me if you have more experience, I played a Chinese char to level 34 and quit. I like party play.)

1. Chinese players will bot to 100 cap, since grinding is so slow and 4-man parties aren't nearly as nice as 8 man Euro party XP gain.
2. Quit

I'll just say right now based on what I see, option 1 seems to be what'll happen. Seems to me some people like to just get capped and pvp, or just do jobbing, while others enjoy the process along the way more so than the actual level cap.

Sure, Euro's can be botted (I guess, I don't know) but why do that and risk banning when you can party?

chineses are not accepted in da most parties for high-lvl players. specially above 81. if now is already like that, imagine the life of a chinese at lvl 99 -_-

Argonaut · **Joined:** Jun 2008 **Posts:** 1162 **Location:**

Being legit is a mentality. You can't "end" legits.

kthnxbai · **Joined:** Mar 2008 **Posts:** 615 **Location:**

Lol "we on srf" worrying about bots?, its the end of sro.. indeed.

pr0klobster · **Joined:** Oct 2007 **Posts:** 1427 **Location:**

selenne wrote:

pr0klobster wrote:

Nope. We need to get together in parties with other unions/guilds. People who bot...well, I won't shun them, but I'd really like to continue to find parties with Euro's in them.

As for Chin Tomb, I don't know...my guess is that Chinese players will do one of two things. (Feel free to correct me if you have more experience, I played a Chinese char to level 34 and quit. I like party play.)

1. Chinese players will bot to 100 cap, since grinding is so slow and 4-man parties aren't nearly as nice as 8 man Euro party XP gain.
2. Quit

I'll just say right now based on what I see, option 1 seems to be what'll happen. Seems to me some people like to just get capped and pvp, or just do jobbing, while others enjoy the process along the way more so than the actual level cap.

Sure, Euro's can be botted (I guess, I don't know) but why do that and risk banning when you can party?

chineses are not accepted in da most parties for high-lvl players. specially above 81. if now is already like that, imagine the life of a chinese at lvl 99 -_-

Yep, and as a cleric or bard, they are REALLY tough to party with, cuz they don't keep aggro...not that hard to heal, but when ya do, oops.

_$0/\/\30/\/3_ · **Posted:** Fri Oct 17, 2008 5:01 pm

when there is a bot for free .. if there is not one already out, all the legits will think to them self why am i spending 3/5hours a day hand grinding when a bot can do it all day...

..we was all legit at one time... 1 by 1 the legits went down in numbers and it still is.. its just a matter of time untill the PURE legits start botting

Argonaut · **Joined:** Jun 2008 **Posts:** 1162 **Location:**

_$0/\/\30/\/3_ wrote:

when there is a bot for free .. if there is not one already out, all the legits will think to them self why am i spending 3/5hours a day hand grinding when a bot can do it all day...

..we was all legit at one time... 1 by 1 the legits went down in numbers and it still is.. its just a matter of time untill the PURE legits start botting

There are free bots out. There HAVE been since the start of the server. iSRO bot was free for 6 months when it was first released. You don't seem to understand the concept of being legit.

kthnxbai · **Joined:** Mar 2008 **Posts:** 615 **Location:**

Argonaut wrote:

_$0/\/\30/\/3_ wrote:

when there is a bot for free .. if there is not one already out, all the legits will think to them self why am i spending 3/5hours a day hand grinding when a bot can do it all day...

..we was all legit at one time... 1 by 1 the legits went down in numbers and it still is.. its just a matter of time untill the PURE legits start botting

There are free bots out. There HAVE been since the start of the server. iSRO bot was free for 6 months when it was first released. You don't seem to understand the concept of being legit.

wut it is?

_$0/\/\30/\/3_ · **Posted:** Fri Oct 17, 2008 5:23 pm

Argonaut wrote:

_$0/\/\30/\/3_ wrote:

when there is a bot for free .. if there is not one already out, all the legits will think to them self why am i spending 3/5hours a day hand grinding when a bot can do it all day...

..we was all legit at one time... 1 by 1 the legits went down in numbers and it still is.. its just a matter of time untill the PURE legits start botting

There are free bots out. There HAVE been since the start of the server. iSRO bot was free for 6 months when it was first released. You don't seem to understand the concept of being legit.

well its just a matter of time untill the legits are botters

iv seen Pure legits turn into botters, it will happen to every one or they will just quit

iGod · **Joined:** Oct 2006 **Posts:** 3728 **Location:**

Why do you say its hard to level to 90? I did it in a week and a half with my wizard (share party, only grinded gt etc.).. 100 will take 2-3 weeks - max.

chickenfeather · **Posted:** Fri Oct 17, 2008 5:28 pm

Being legit is a mentality. You either have it in you or you don't. Those that don't have it will see nothing wrong with botting and eventually end up botting. Those that do have it will not see any need to cheat in a game and just move on to better games.

ahmedsabry · **Joined:** Feb 2008 **Posts:** 615 **Location:**

GoyMax:
this is NOT the end of our war against legits
to all legits.. its time to leave.

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