STANDBOTS in the towns.. I think i figured..

AnarChaos · **Posted:** Tue Jun 09, 2009 1:05 pm

As you all know, there are lots of stand bots (the ones just stand in towns without moving) in every town in every fcking server.

I think I figured why they are there. Here is my guess:

Maybe gold companies discovered that Joymax can detect their gold bot chars buy their buy-sell packets. So they are doing this:

Grindingbot1 goes grinding and when it is out of pots or it's inventory is full or it's weapon is broken, returns to city, comes near to one of the NPC's and gives the items/materials/gold to Standbot1 and takes pots from it.

Standbot1 does all selling/buying/making materials/storing processes.

By this way they are hard to be detected. Because the grinding bots never contact with any of the NPC's and Standbots never grind.

This is just my theory, I am not sure.

Comments are welcomed but without flaming or insulting please!

jabbers · **Posted:** Tue Jun 09, 2009 1:10 pm

STANDBOTS STAND AND GOBOTS........gooooo

CeLL · **Posted:** Tue Jun 09, 2009 2:03 pm

No I think that would be a ton of pointlessness. The gold bots are really easy to detect by other means. Interaction with an npc can easily be simulated with no problems. This game and many others are very simple. You send the server info, it reads that, and sends a response. Get the right info, and you can get what ever response you want. It makes no difference if there is a client present or not. The client is just a gui to make things understandable to our simple minds, and to make us give them money.

They are just storage, that’s all.

TillTheEnd · **Joined:** Apr 2009 **Posts:** 458 **Location:** Valhalla

AnarChaos wrote:

As you all know, there are lots of stand bots (the ones just stand in towns without moving) in every town in every fcking server.

I think I figured why they are there. Here is my guess:

Maybe gold companies discovered that Joymax can detect their gold bot chars buy their buy-sell packets. So they are doing this:

Grindingbot1 goes grinding and when it is out of pots or it's inventory is full or it's weapon is broken, returns to city, comes near to one of the NPC's and gives the items/materials/gold to Standbot1 and takes pots from it.

Standbot1 does all selling/buying/making materials/storing processes.

By this way they are hard to be detected. Because the grinding bots never contact with any of the NPC's and Standbots never grind.

This is just my theory, I am not sure.

Comments are welcomed but without flaming or insulting please!

why would gold companies be worry lol? JM don't ban goldbots only spam bots...or maybe 5 at most goldbots.

Many players have said that those are elixirs accounts. Gold companies sell elixirs. they do not sell them on trade. they give u a full account aka. lvl1 account. for fast sell, they already have them login waiting for a buyer. I'm believing that this is true.

CeLL · **Posted:** Tue Jun 09, 2009 2:14 pm

TillTheEnd wrote:

AnarChaos wrote:

As you all know, there are lots of stand bots (the ones just stand in towns without moving) in every town in every fcking server.

I think I figured why they are there. Here is my guess:

Maybe gold companies discovered that Joymax can detect their gold bot chars buy their buy-sell packets. So they are doing this:

Grindingbot1 goes grinding and when it is out of pots or it's inventory is full or it's weapon is broken, returns to city, comes near to one of the NPC's and gives the items/materials/gold to Standbot1 and takes pots from it.

Standbot1 does all selling/buying/making materials/storing processes.

By this way they are hard to be detected. Because the grinding bots never contact with any of the NPC's and Standbots never grind.

This is just my theory, I am not sure.

Comments are welcomed but without flaming or insulting please!

why would gold companies be worry lol? JM don't ban goldbots only spam bots...or maybe 5 at most goldbots.

Many players have said that those are elixirs accounts. Gold companies sell elixirs. they do not sell them on trade. they give u a full account aka. lvl1 account. for fast sell, they already have them login waiting for a buyer. I'm believing that this is true.

makes sense.

_Equal_ · **Posted:** Tue Jun 09, 2009 2:16 pm

<troll>

not a prob in ecsro ;-)

</troll>

lilly_ · **Joined:** Jul 2007 **Posts:** 432 **Location:** ...

I still think joymax puts them there to keep server traffic high so we buy premiums :roll:

GimmeMo · **Posted:** Tue Jun 09, 2009 2:25 pm

Or they are here forcing you to buy premium to login.

CeLL · **Posted:** Tue Jun 09, 2009 2:29 pm

_Equal_ wrote:

<troll>

not a prob in ecsro ;-)

</troll>

ecsro is fun if i wanna play a str build...

lopasas · **Joined:** Nov 2008 **Posts:** 733 **Location:**

how about this
joymax is crowding the server so we would buy premium?

BloodyBlade · **Posted:** Tue Jun 09, 2009 4:29 pm

joymax is just lazy, thats all

HawaiianMix · **Joined:** Jan 2008 **Posts:** 786 **Location:**

_Equal_ wrote:

<troll>

not a prob in ecsro ;-)

</troll>

This would be better:

Code:

puts 'Would you like to troll (y/N)'
forumTroll = gets.chomp

while true
  if forumTroll == ( y | Y )
    troll = 'not a prob in exsro ;-)'
    width = 50
    puts troll.center(width)
  else
    break
end

PR0METHEUS · **Joined:** Aug 2006 **Posts:** 4093 **Location:** Earth

lopasas wrote:

how about this
joymax is crowding the server so we would buy premium?

Joymax doesn't have to crowd the server. They could just lower the capacity. Only open 1,000 slots instead of 3,500. Then they get more premium sales.

CeLL · **Posted:** Tue Jun 09, 2009 5:49 pm

PR0METHEUS wrote:

lopasas wrote:

how about this
joymax is crowding the server so we would buy premium?

Joymax doesn't have to crowd the server. They could just lower the capacity. Only open 1,000 slots instead of 3,500. Then they get more premium sales.

no then they would only have goldbots logged on.

ltsune · **Joined:** Mar 2008 **Posts:** 5751 **Location:**

Even tho i read your replies and it seems you don't think this is the reason.... i agree with the topic starter.

It makes perfectly sense to me. The goldbots would get tons of elexirs etc. and i actually think this is why. Good explanation

Lowis · **Joined:** Feb 2008 **Posts:** 570 **Location:** Trolling

They are secret society's that meet privately.

Ichimaru420 · **Joined:** Mar 2007 **Posts:** 2778 **Location:** quit

My money is on JM put em there 2 keep servers 24/7 crowded 2 force people 2 buy premium tickets.

EvGa · **Joined:** Apr 2008 **Posts:** 2612 **Location:** Texas

So you think joymax all of a sudden decided "oh hey, we can fill the servers and make people buy premiums!!". I think not. They would have just kept server capacity at 1500-2000 if that was their goal.

The groups of bots most likely (98% sure) belong to gold selling companies. What are they doing? Who cares, they're logged in taking spots. That's all that matters.

But, the idea that they are being used as storage accounts for the goldbots makes the most sense.

DistortedMind · **Posted:** Tue Jun 09, 2009 6:40 pm

them standing people are full of exilers

dorkus · **Joined:** Jan 2007 **Posts:** 151 **Location:**

DistortedMind wrote:

them standing people are full of exilers

that is my assumption as well.

the goldbot companies sell elixirs by the account. so these nubs are standing in town waiting to be filled with elixirs. then when an account is full it is logged out and added into the sales queue.

simple deduction. elementary my dear Watson.

RogueKiller · **Joined:** Jan 2008 **Posts:** 1893 **Location:**

They are elixer accounts gold companies sell to you. I know people who buy them to make +9s.

_Equal_ wrote:

<troll>

not a prob in ecsro ;-)

</troll>

ohyeahbaby · **Joined:** May 2009 **Posts:** 19 **Location:** Marz

my thoery is, that the standbots are not from goldbots.

they were made from us players who are sick of goldbotters so they make alot of them, just to open Joymaxs eyes.

firefox6 · **Joined:** Mar 2007 **Posts:** 1485 **Location:**

joymax bots to fill spots in the servers

penfold1992 · **Joined:** Apr 2007 **Posts:** 4060 **Location:**

the stand bots are usually for storage or SPAMMING!!!! that u already have banned...

bots which hav ran out of bot ticket...
bots which script bugged...
bots which ran out of money buying pots...
chars left theyre pc on that just cba to log in again..

loads of reasons!

CrimsonNuker · **Joined:** Aug 2006 **Posts:** 13791 **Location:**

It's Joymax's way to fill up the servers to encourage you to buy premium tickets.

TheKnight · **Joined:** Apr 2009 **Posts:** 3067 **Location:**

Many things makes sense but I've been wondering: I fthere wouldn't be any players would servers be only crowded by bots and none real player in them? Would that make Joymax to listen.
Only Botters--> they Don't sell anything --> they Leave --> Now Joymax has no real players and no bots either.
I know Im bit mad

malika69 · **Joined:** Mar 2007 **Posts:** 442 **Location:**

AnarChaos wrote:

As you all know, there are lots of stand bots (the ones just stand in towns without moving) in every town in every fcking server.

I think I figured why they are there. Here is my guess:

Maybe gold companies discovered that Joymax can detect their gold bot chars buy their buy-sell packets. So they are doing this:

Grindingbot1 goes grinding and when it is out of pots or it's inventory is full or it's weapon is broken, returns to city, comes near to one of the NPC's and gives the items/materials/gold to Standbot1 and takes pots from it.

Standbot1 does all selling/buying/making materials/storing processes.

By this way they are hard to be detected. Because the grinding bots never contact with any of the NPC's and Standbots never grind.

This is just my theory, I am not sure.

Comments are welcomed but without flaming or insulting please!

maybe they get packets to sell private server :twisted:

Xfur · **Joined:** May 2009 **Posts:** 8 **Location:** Somewhere

I highly doubt that Joymax is putting them there to fill the server. They run the game, they can put the chars wherever they want, why put them plainly in sight in town? More than likely it's gold companies selling elixers, ect. as some people already suggested.

CrimsonNuker · **Joined:** Aug 2006 **Posts:** 13791 **Location:**

Xfur wrote:

I highly doubt that Joymax is putting them there to fill the server. They run the game, they can put the chars wherever they want, why put them plainly in sight in town? More than likely it's gold companies selling elixers, ect. as some people already suggested.

What if they put them there to make you think they're stand bots; so when they ban them, you think they really are banning bots.

PR0METHEUS · **Joined:** Aug 2006 **Posts:** 4093 **Location:** Earth

firefox6 wrote:

joymax bots to fill spots in the servers

Stop spreading lies. If Joymax wanted to ensure the servers are always full, they could just lower the capacity if there are empty slots. They could use the excuse that less available slots means less characters online, which means less lag, which means a better gaming experience.

CrimsonNuker wrote:

What if they put them there to make you think they're stand bots; so when they ban them, you think they really are banning bots.

Let's just assume for a moment that you're correct. Joymax IS creating these bots, logging them in, then banning them.

Wouldn't it be a better approach for Joymax to turn on GameGuard (or a better replacement), log off the 1,000+ Joymax bots per server (and post a final ban list - they're not coming back), decrease server capacity by 1,000 (for less lag, better gaming experience), and bring GMs back to actively ban any remaining non-Joymax bots? The legit community would be overwhelmed with joy and flood the Item Mall with silk purchases as they all get back into the game hardcore. :-D

Seems pointless for Joymax to create bots just to ban them and make themselves look good. Do police departments do that? Do they bring in hundreds or thousands of criminals just so they can arrest them all and make the department look good to the community?

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