Idea for new servers

KillAndChill · **Joined:** Mar 2008 **Posts:** 770 **Location:**

New servers start with a 60 cap and raise it every so many months.

Includes:
-Nostalgia
-Botting will happen, but will not be necessary
-More silk spent at lower levels so corporate is happy

Won't happen but it would make me play again. If someone already thought of this, then :palm:

Tasdik · **Joined:** Jan 2007 **Posts:** 13206 **Location:** Life

Since when is botting ever "necessary"?

TheDrop · **Joined:** May 2008 **Posts:** 7150 **Location:** uefa2012

60 can be hit in like a month w/ a chinese char legitly.
With euro partying, like 2 weeks (prolly less)

But then again there are always dumbfcks that party at pegs when they are 7x and chinese who dont know what quests are.

KillAndChill · **Joined:** Mar 2008 **Posts:** 770 **Location:**

Tasdik wrote:

Since when is botting ever "necessary"?

You're taking my use of the word necessary too seriously.

I meant that the highest level wont take years to get while playing legit. This would hopefully encourage the botters to play the game instead of botting.

_Dutchy_ · **Posted:** Fri May 20, 2011 4:18 am

KillAndChill wrote:

Tasdik wrote:

Since when is botting ever "necessary"?

You're taking my use of the word necessary too seriously.

I meant that the highest level wont take years to get while playing legit. This would hopefully encourage the botters to play the game instead of botting.

Botters are lazy and love to cheat you really think they would stop botting ? even if the cap was lvl 30 they would bot thats how they are kids...

Tasdik · **Joined:** Jan 2007 **Posts:** 13206 **Location:** Life

I hit 95 in less than 2 months. Ain't that hard.

BuDo · **Joined:** Dec 2008 **Posts:** 4714 **Location:**

Tasdik wrote:

I hit 95 in less than 2 months. Ain't that hard.

You talking about isro? and also does that include the time it takes to farm SP? I highly doubt it.

firefinal1 · **Posted:** Fri May 20, 2011 7:10 am

BuDo wrote:

Tasdik wrote:

I hit 95 in less than 2 months. Ain't that hard.

You talking about isro? and also does that include the time it takes to farm SP? I highly doubt it.

Taxi time? ^^
PS: Even 24/7 bots wont hit 95 within 2months. ^^

Kronos · **Joined:** May 2008 **Posts:** 828 **Location:**

_Dutchy_ wrote:

KillAndChill wrote:

Tasdik wrote:

Since when is botting ever "necessary"?

You're taking my use of the word necessary too seriously.

I meant that the highest level wont take years to get while playing legit. This would hopefully encourage the botters to play the game instead of botting.

Botters are lazy and love to cheat you really think they would stop botting ? even if the cap was lvl 30 they would bot thats how they are kids...

Yea this. There are lots of people, who even bot on 30x-rates servers. So do you really think they would stop botting, if you just lower the cap? I doubt it.

firefinal1 wrote:

BuDo wrote:

Tasdik wrote:

I hit 95 in less than 2 months. Ain't that hard.

You talking about isro? and also does that include the time it takes to farm SP? I highly doubt it.

Taxi time? ^^
PS: Even 24/7 bots wont hit 95 within 2months. ^^

24/7 bots are slower than legits, if that legits know how to play and play every day for around 3 hours (with premium + that is). Unfortunately as legits you sometimes have days, when some people of your pt are busy or people are quitting or turning bot. Then you have to look for new pt members or help lower people in your guild/union to catch up, which might take a while. And if you play in a legit pt with a fixed set of people, where you have 1 certain role (for example wizard only), it's enough to take only 1 mastery and maybe a sub tree to assist the pt with ress, bless, RD, etc. You'll save a lot time like that, but you won't be as flexible for pting and not as good in PVP either. I prefer the slower way (and i don't use premium +) and farm a bit more to get both my masteries FF. The result is that i can be both Warrior and Cleric in pts, which makes me a very valuable pt member, since i can be cleric, if there are already 2 warriors in the pt and warrior, if there is only 1 warrior.

The Invisible · **Joined:** Jan 2011 **Posts:** 2626 **Location:** Home ._.

24/7 bots are slower than active legits as they don't have the brain to survive in mobs thier level or higher .
So they just grind on green/blue mobs .
There are few exceptions but that's the general case .

IceCrash · **Posted:** Fri May 20, 2011 12:16 pm

yeah, you're very valuable, having everyone outlvl u

You_Dead_Yet · **Joined:** Mar 2007 **Posts:** 380 **Location:** here

lol bots can auto heal and auto buff for years now, so no 24/7 bots are not slower than legits anymore. There is even bots that can lure mobs as warrior.

Kronos · **Joined:** May 2008 **Posts:** 828 **Location:**

IceCrash wrote:

yeah, you're very valuable, having everyone outlvl u

I have no problems finding pts for my lv. range. Currently i am Lv. 83 warrior/cleric and i mainly pt at lv.100/101 monsters. You need a complete lv.95+ pt anyway to move on to higher level monsters. Most people, who are higher level than me are either using Premium or used it before. So i am actually quite satisfied with what i reached until now. And i really hate it to play with an underfarmed character.

You_Dead_Yet wrote:

lol bots can auto heal and auto buff for years now, so no 24/7 bots are not slower than legits anymore. There is even bots that can lure mobs as warrior.

Ye, i am aware of that. But so far i haven't seen a bot pt that lured as much and as fast as our usual legit pts. Then again, bot pts seem to wipe quite a lot. You just open 2 pillars on them and they are down lol. At least that's my impression of the bot pts on Azteca. Bots have the advantage of being online and pting 24/7. But in terms of %/hour legits are a lot faster for sure. With prem+ and pting around 3 hours a day you can be just as fast or even faster than 24/7 bots. Just because bots can heal, buff and lure, it doesn't make them smart and organized.

hey · **Joined:** Feb 2011 **Posts:** 194 **Location:** sup

keeeeeeeeeeeeep dreaming

Tasdik · **Joined:** Jan 2007 **Posts:** 13206 **Location:** Life

firefinal1 wrote:

BuDo wrote:

Tasdik wrote:

I hit 95 in less than 2 months. Ain't that hard.

You talking about isro? and also does that include the time it takes to farm SP? I highly doubt it.

Taxi time? ^^
PS: Even 24/7 bots wont hit 95 within 2months. ^^

Lol, who the hell would plvl me? No bottards were high enough to actually plvl.

boast · **Joined:** Jan 2007 **Posts:** 477 **Location:**

KillAndChill wrote:

Includes:
-Nostalgia

hahahahaha!!!!!

I wonder why I don't remember the asians being like the turks/egys now a days (before they got their own tsro/vsro/etc...)

XMoshe · **Posted:** Fri May 20, 2011 9:19 pm

The Invisible wrote:

24/7 bots are slower than active legits as they don't have the brain to survive in mobs thier level or higher .
So they just grind on green/blue mobs .
There are few exceptions but that's the general case .

Goldbots yeah, normal player bots usually have no problem surviving their lvl mobs or even orange mobs. I know even of enough 24/7 euro parties on red mobs that work just fine.

Not to forget a legit is indeed faster when he grinds. But a bot that can go 24/7 will outlvl a legit that does 3 hour a day anytime.

The Invisible · **Joined:** Jan 2011 **Posts:** 2626 **Location:** Home ._.

XMoshe wrote:

The Invisible wrote:

24/7 bots are slower than active legits as they don't have the brain to survive in mobs thier level or higher .
So they just grind on green/blue mobs .
There are few exceptions but that's the general case .

Goldbots yeah, normal player bots usually have no problem surviving their lvl mobs or even orange mobs. I know even of enough 24/7 euro parties on red mobs that work just fine.

Not to forget a legit is indeed faster when he grinds. But a bot that can go 24/7 will outlvl a legit that does 3 hour a day anytime.

A 8 man Bot party with 8 attackers (wizards or nukers) only won't outlevel legits , but a bot party with warriors , bards , clerics , wizards , maybe a warlock , can outlevel them .

Didn't want to say it this way at first but that's how it goes .

XMoshe · **Posted:** Fri May 20, 2011 11:19 pm

The Invisible wrote:

XMoshe wrote:

The Invisible wrote:

24/7 bots are slower than active legits as they don't have the brain to survive in mobs thier level or higher .
So they just grind on green/blue mobs .
There are few exceptions but that's the general case .

Goldbots yeah, normal player bots usually have no problem surviving their lvl mobs or even orange mobs. I know even of enough 24/7 euro parties on red mobs that work just fine.

Not to forget a legit is indeed faster when he grinds. But a bot that can go 24/7 will outlvl a legit that does 3 hour a day anytime.

A 8 man Bot party with 8 attackers (wizards or nukers) only won't outlevel legits , but a bot party with warriors , bards , clerics , wizards , maybe a warlock , can outlevel them .

Didn't want to say it this way at first but that's how it goes .

Ofcourse I mean a functioning party with buffers and even lurers. Shamefully they already exist now lol

Bananaman · **Posted:** Sat May 21, 2011 1:43 am

XMoshe wrote:

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but even so, on a server that starts at 60 cap, botters wouldnt be botting long, and then a few thigns would happen:

1)legits would catch up and becuase they know how to play the game as a team (euro) or simply know their characters better (chinese) legits will rape non legits easily

2)botters become bored untill the new cap comes out, meaning they play less resulting in #1

3)most people will begin to realize that it really isnt worth it to bot ten levels every few months

4) gms can more efficiently ban botters manually as there will be less space to cover.

IceCrash · **Posted:** Sat May 21, 2011 1:56 am

ofc it works but, what i mean is, when u're high lvl enough to pt at the highest pts or w.e, doesn't make much of a diff cause it takes long to lvl anyways

but when u're low lvl u can't really afford to do tht or u'll never pt with the same ppl, they'll outlvled u, it won't be good

XMoshe · **Posted:** Sat May 21, 2011 9:17 am

Bananaman wrote:

XMoshe wrote:

...

but even so, on a server that starts at 60 cap, botters wouldnt be botting long, and then a few thigns would happen:

1)legits would catch up and becuase they know how to play the game as a team (euro) or simply know their characters better (chinese) legits will rape non legits easily
2)botters become bored untill the new cap comes out, meaning they play less resulting in #1
3)most people will begin to realize that it really isnt worth it to bot ten levels every few months
4) gms can more efficiently ban botters manually as there will be less space to cover.

I disagree but I'm gonna shut up now =]

And damn your sig! haha

iztupido · **Posted:** Sat May 21, 2011 2:11 pm

My dream of a server is cap 70 with chinese only and no snow shield. To me, there was nothing like it.

THE_ZUL · **Joined:** Nov 2006 **Posts:** 1031 **Location:**

new server EgypTurks

- they can scamming each other

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