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oktaytheazer
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Post subject: how to get ride of bots may be ? Posted: Fri Mar 23, 2007 7:30 pm |
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well i played runescape before ( wish i regret, wish i palyed sro instead ) and there was them random events its like u have to answer questions and stuff
they doesnt Joymax make something simulare to that ?
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Post subject: Re: how to get ride of bots may be ? Posted: Fri Mar 23, 2007 7:33 pm |
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oktaytheazer wrote: well i played runescape before ( wish i regret, wish i palyed sro instead ) and there was them random events its like u have to answer questions and stuff
they doesnt Joymax make something simulare to that ?
I didnt understand anything.
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Waisha
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Post subject: Posted: Fri Mar 23, 2007 7:33 pm |
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there is many things that can be done but Joymax wont do it.
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oktaytheazer
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Post subject: Posted: Fri Mar 23, 2007 7:35 pm |
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W3GAN wrote: there is many things that can be done but Joymax wont do it.
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aww 
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JaJa
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Post subject: Posted: Fri Mar 23, 2007 7:35 pm |
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I saw this in the brief hour I played Hero's Online also. After a certain period of time a little box comes up asking questions that are basic like 3+1 to help block bots.
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Post subject: Re: how to get ride of bots may be ? Posted: Fri Mar 23, 2007 7:35 pm |
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oktaytheazer wrote: well i played runescape before ( wish i regret, wish i palyed sro instead ) and there was them random events its like u have to answer questions and stuff
they doesnt Joymax make something simulare to that ?
well i played runescape before ( which i regret, wish i played SRO instead ) and there was them random events its like u have to answer questions and stuff
why doesn't Joymax make something similar to that ?
I think thats what he ment to say 
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oktaytheazer
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Post subject: Posted: Fri Mar 23, 2007 7:36 pm |
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Tasdik wrote: oktaytheazer wrote: well i played runescape before ( wish i regret, wish i palyed sro instead ) and there was them random events its like u have to answer questions and stuff
they doesnt Joymax make something simulare to that ? well i played runescape before ( which i regret, wish i played SRO instead ) and there was them random events its like u have to answer questions and stuff why doesn't Joymax make something similar to that ? I think thats what he ment to say  whoops my bad TaicaCuu wrote: oktaytheazer wrote: well i played runescape before ( wish i regret, wish i palyed sro instead ) and there was them random events its like u have to answer questions and stuff
they doesnt Joymax make something simulare to that ? I didnt understand anything. JaJa wrote: I saw this in the brief hour I played Hero's Online also. After a certain period of time a little box comes up asking questions that are basic like 3+1 to help block bots.
lyky ty 
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Post subject: Posted: Fri Mar 23, 2007 7:43 pm |
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karlek33 wrote: Very interesting, well detailed topic 
i think he trying to say
a screen pops up and asks you a question everyone once in a while
IE:
what is 4+2
you put 6.
if you dont answer it, will mark you or something idk.
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NuclearSilo
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Post subject: Posted: Fri Mar 23, 2007 8:02 pm |
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JaJa wrote: I saw this in the brief hour I played Hero's Online also. After a certain period of time a little box comes up asking questions that are basic like 3+1 to help block bots.
afk, stalling, go to toilet... => banned -.-
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iGod
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Post subject: Posted: Fri Mar 23, 2007 8:05 pm |
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What happens if you answer wrong, you also get blocked(or w/e)?
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Post subject: Posted: Fri Mar 23, 2007 8:07 pm |
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i like the thread topic
i also would like to ride bots.
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Post subject: Posted: Fri Mar 23, 2007 8:07 pm |
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i suggested this before and MD never responded.
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JaJa
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Post subject: Posted: Fri Mar 23, 2007 8:09 pm |
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NuclearSilo wrote: JaJa wrote: I saw this in the brief hour I played Hero's Online also. After a certain period of time a little box comes up asking questions that are basic like 3+1 to help block bots. afk, stalling, go to toilet... => banned -.-
In Hero's I only saw it when I went up so many levels, so it was obvious you were active at the time. I only played that game for about an hour or two during a SRO inspection so I don't know if it pops up any other time, but at the time I thought it was a good idea, if you gain x levels in y time, ask a question on getting the level to make sure it is a real person.
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BlackFox
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Post subject: Posted: Fri Mar 23, 2007 8:12 pm |
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whas allready one thread about it ,so not need again...
And I stupid idea to have a answer questions in games ..
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Waisha
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Post subject: Posted: Fri Mar 23, 2007 8:14 pm |
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BlackFox wrote: whas allready one thread about it ,so not need again... And I stupid idea to have a answer questions in games ..
no wonder u think a anti-bot idea is stupid. =O
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Post subject: Posted: Fri Mar 23, 2007 8:16 pm |
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wat if a gey event like that happens when ur just about to finish soloing a unique? 
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JaJa
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Post subject: Posted: Fri Mar 23, 2007 8:22 pm |
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Why would you get a level in the middle of soloing a unique? You don't get the exp until you kill it. Second, you have something like a couple minutes to answer I think, I don't remember now, so it isn't like you ahve to stop what you are doing to respond to it. It just sits in the corner until you click on it to put in an answer.
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Post subject: Posted: Fri Mar 23, 2007 8:26 pm |
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If people AFK stall, such thing is not possible. Like JaJa said, sometimes it's nearly impossible to do such thing.
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BlackFox
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Post subject: Posted: Fri Mar 23, 2007 8:30 pm |
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W3GAN wrote: BlackFox wrote: whas allready one thread about it ,so not need again... And I stupid idea to have a answer questions in games .. no wonder u think a anti-bot idea is stupid. =O
And ..But think about it is realy stupid have this in games and i dont think is fun to answer a questions when you play ..and is a game not a questions game.
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Post subject: Posted: Fri Mar 23, 2007 8:37 pm |
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tiglari51 wrote: If people AFK stall, such thing is not possible. Like JaJa said, sometimes it's nearly impossible to do such thing. Maybe if the pop up doesnt come up while you have a stall up.. It would suck if your fighting a unique and the pop up comes up lol Quote: What happens if you answer wrong, you also get blocked(or w/e)?
If they get a question like 3+1 and they get it wrong they deserve to get booted lol
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JaJa
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Post subject: Posted: Fri Mar 23, 2007 8:48 pm |
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OK, summarizing because apparently people didn't read what I said. In Hero's Online, when you gain a few LEVELS (not every level, just every few), and are thus active, a small NON-INTRUSIVE box appears in the lower left corner with a basic question to answer. You get like 3 minutes to put in an answer, so if you are being mobbed or something you have a bit to get safe before taking the 2 seconds to put in an answer. You would thus NOT get this box while stalling, nor when you are fighting a unique, and even if you are you have several minutes to put in an answer. It does NOT disable your controls, block your view, or do ANYTHING to prevent you from continuing to play. I have no idea what happens if you don't put in an answer, but it could be something simple as to flag your account for further investigating, or if you miss 3 in a row you get booted.
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Post subject: Posted: Fri Mar 23, 2007 9:31 pm |
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JaJa wrote: OK, summarizing because apparently people didn't read what I said. In Hero's Online, when you gain a few LEVELS (not every level, just every few), and are thus active, a small NON-INTRUSIVE box appears in the lower left corner with a basic question to answer. You get like 3 minutes to put in an answer, so if you are being mobbed or something you have a bit to get safe before taking the 2 seconds to put in an answer. You would thus NOT get this box while stalling, nor when you are fighting a unique, and even if you are you have several minutes to put in an answer. It does NOT disable your controls, block your view, or do ANYTHING to prevent you from continuing to play. I have no idea what happens if you don't put in an answer, but it could be something simple as to flag your account for further investigating, or if you miss 3 in a row you get booted.
About this idea, i told JM long time ago.
Although, capturing a packet "answer" is not impossible to a programmer. Yes, they just modify the bot program like nothing happened. Dont underestimate programmers 
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Post subject: Posted: Fri Mar 23, 2007 9:36 pm |
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NuclearSilo wrote: JaJa wrote: OK, summarizing because apparently people didn't read what I said. In Hero's Online, when you gain a few LEVELS (not every level, just every few), and are thus active, a small NON-INTRUSIVE box appears in the lower left corner with a basic question to answer. You get like 3 minutes to put in an answer, so if you are being mobbed or something you have a bit to get safe before taking the 2 seconds to put in an answer. You would thus NOT get this box while stalling, nor when you are fighting a unique, and even if you are you have several minutes to put in an answer. It does NOT disable your controls, block your view, or do ANYTHING to prevent you from continuing to play. I have no idea what happens if you don't put in an answer, but it could be something simple as to flag your account for further investigating, or if you miss 3 in a row you get booted. About this idea, i told JM long time ago. Although, capturing a packet "answer" is not impossible to a programmer. Yes, they just modify the bot program like nothing happened. Dont underestimate programmers 
There are several methods of sending out numbers in multi colors (like JM's image verification, but FAR better) that is incredibly difficult for a program to decipher. There are also other random questions they could ask, like Which of these are red? a. Banana b. Apple c. water d. Moon
And have the possible answer lists change constantly, and be stored server-side. Yeah, I know what is possible for a programmer, I am one. I also know what programs suck at, and while you can't fix it 100% you could make it VERY difficult for the bot makers to deal with.
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Post subject: Posted: Fri Mar 23, 2007 9:47 pm |
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Best anti bot system is action.
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Waisha
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Post subject: Posted: Fri Mar 23, 2007 9:51 pm |
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BlackFox wrote: W3GAN wrote: BlackFox wrote: whas allready one thread about it ,so not need again... And I stupid idea to have a answer questions in games .. no wonder u think a anti-bot idea is stupid. =O And ..But think about it is realy stupid have this in games and i dont think is fun to answer a questions when you play ..and is a game not a questions game.
i lol'd. haha.
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Post subject: Posted: Fri Mar 23, 2007 10:33 pm |
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There are so many good suggestions, but then JM would just ignore them
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Post subject: Posted: Fri Mar 23, 2007 10:51 pm |
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Hello_Kitty wrote: Best anti bot system is action.
This is probably the truest statement ever. The other bits can be bypassed and whatnot, but only some heavy-handedness is all that will really help the situation.
I keep running into them now, and many of them will even admit to doing it if they babysit. Last night I got one to attack me and go pink, so I killed the wolf and chased them around until they were no longer pink. 15 min later they came back and I asked what happened to the wolf, and they said "it died, I dunno how". When I told them what happened and suggested they turn off the KS mode on their bot, they said, "I don't normally turn that on, it should be off..." I can't believe there is no shame in it anymore, no fear of being banned.
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Post subject: Posted: Fri Mar 23, 2007 11:58 pm |
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NuclearSilo wrote: JaJa wrote: I saw this in the brief hour I played Hero's Online also. After a certain period of time a little box comes up asking questions that are basic like 3+1 to help block bots. afk, stalling, go to toilet... => banned -.-
or they can have it so that if u dont move for 15 sec it wont ask u question...
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Post subject: Posted: Sat Mar 24, 2007 12:04 am |
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iGod wrote: What happens if you answer wrong, you also get blocked(or w/e)?
Who's dumb enough to give a wrong answer to simple arithmetic problems.
1+1 = 11 
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