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PsYch008
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Post subject: is joymax really gettin smarter Posted: Tue Apr 03, 2007 9:45 pm |
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MastaChiefX
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Post subject: Posted: Tue Apr 03, 2007 9:46 pm |
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No.

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Innovacious
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Post subject: Re: is joymax really gettin smarter Posted: Tue Apr 03, 2007 9:47 pm |
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PsYch008 wrote: are they really going to be able to track modded clients and ban that way? discuss. 
knowing joymax it will probably be like the viet ip block when it was first activated. The people with modded clients will carry on and the people with clean clients will get banned.
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satman83
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Post subject: Posted: Tue Apr 03, 2007 9:48 pm |
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Yes, only if they do it propely, either way theres always going to be someone crying about moaning about something.
so at the end of the day they just cant win
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DarkLaw
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Post subject: Posted: Tue Apr 03, 2007 9:48 pm |
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MastaChiefX wrote: No. 
+1
although i really dont care anymore. 
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SextoEspada
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Post subject: Posted: Tue Apr 03, 2007 9:59 pm |
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i doubt this will go into effect, there's just too many factors for it to work properly
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PsYch008
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Post subject: Posted: Tue Apr 03, 2007 10:22 pm |
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greenfire570
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Post subject: Posted: Wed Apr 04, 2007 12:11 am |
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not even a bit...  its always crowded in al servers always patching and and so much botters! i guess they cant fully eliminate botters 
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iSteal
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Post subject: Posted: Wed Apr 04, 2007 12:14 am |
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No...Joymax sucks
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MaSaMuNe
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Post subject: Posted: Wed Apr 04, 2007 12:20 am |
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Joymax is either REALLY ignorant, or playing us all... Though its probally the former, you never know. =)
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Draquish
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Post subject: Posted: Wed Apr 04, 2007 3:05 am |
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I believe Joymax is too light on it's consequences on cheating.
If I ever make an MMORPG; first offense: IP Ban, but before that, a little "update" would be downloaded into that individual's PC.
*whistles*

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IguanaRampage
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Post subject: Posted: Wed Apr 04, 2007 3:05 am |
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No.
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cin
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Post subject: Posted: Wed Apr 04, 2007 3:07 am |
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draquish wrote: If I ever make an MMORPG; first offense: IP Ban
agree on that one.
botters can now just make their new char and
bot with it some more. if their ip is banned they
will not be playing this game at all anymore
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Draquish
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Post subject: Posted: Wed Apr 04, 2007 3:10 am |
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IguanaRampage wrote: No.

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Xeroist
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Post subject: Posted: Wed Apr 04, 2007 3:11 am |
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There really is no such thing as IP bans anymore, you can change your IP very easily these days.
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ResTnPieces
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Post subject: Posted: Wed Apr 04, 2007 4:47 am |
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DarkLaw wrote: MastaChiefX wrote: No.  +1 although i really dont care anymore. 
+2
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CrazyAztec
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Post subject: Posted: Wed Apr 04, 2007 4:50 am |
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Xeroist wrote: There really is no such thing as IP bans anymore, you can change your IP very easily these days.
i did that for 01239570123720 times.
joymax = couple of brains
world = 2billion brains
so joymax VS the world = joymax owned.
The only way to shut this up is....
Joymax shut SRO off or sell them to a better company with better management.
oh yeah..you're not even listening.
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Sharp324
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Post subject: Posted: Wed Apr 04, 2007 5:29 am |
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unless they pay for something like PB that activly scans the client then no...but we already discussed this and im too tired to get into details
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timtam
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Post subject: Posted: Wed Apr 04, 2007 5:47 am |
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i hope they get smarter
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PR0METHEUS
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Post subject: Posted: Wed Apr 04, 2007 6:49 pm |
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Seems if they want to check your client, they could just send a baseline .pk2 file (for media, data, and any others) to the client, have the client do a diff on them and see if there are any "unacceptable" differences. Perhaps that would be better to do on the server end, but that would be a LOT of storage to temporarily store the .pk2 files of all players. But they wouldn't all have to be done at once. The server could randomly request .pk2 files from a random sample of players to be transferred to the server, scan them there, and then ban any offenders.
It shouldn't be that hard.
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SuicideGrl
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Post subject: Posted: Wed Apr 04, 2007 6:51 pm |
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Xeroist wrote: There really is no such thing as IP bans anymore, you can change your IP very easily these days.
+1. do you know how hard it is to keep banned users off this forum? i've banned a few people at least 10x.
besides, for people playing at large universities, internet cafes, etc., this would ban a lot more than just that one person.
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downfall.hex
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Post subject: Posted: Wed Apr 04, 2007 6:54 pm |
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well. they will do anything to get more money from us.
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Stephanus
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Post subject: Posted: Wed Apr 04, 2007 7:55 pm |
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jichiong
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Post subject: Posted: Wed Apr 04, 2007 8:02 pm |
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SuicideGrl wrote: Xeroist wrote: There really is no such thing as IP bans anymore, you can change your IP very easily these days. +1. do you know how hard it is to keep banned users off this forum? i've banned a few people at least 10x. besides, for people playing at large universities, internet cafes, etc., this would ban a lot more than just that one person.
i agree with sg, i think this is the primary reason why jm does/will not ban ip, since most ppl in asia play in internet cafes, hence if ip ban, no one can play in the cafe...
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PsYch008
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Post subject: Posted: Wed Apr 04, 2007 8:04 pm |
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Stephanus wrote: Dont be morons to ban some ip-s, ban mac adresses Those are burned in the pc of every users and isp-s verífy with mac adresses too.
isnt the mac address tied to the NIC? In that case, just buy a new NIC lolz. I'm not sure about that tho...
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Post subject: Posted: Wed Apr 04, 2007 8:11 pm |
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no matter what everone says i belive in Joymax  i hope they realy get "smarter" to shudup peps who said no 
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PR0METHEUS
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Post subject: Posted: Wed Apr 04, 2007 8:15 pm |
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PsYch008 wrote: Stephanus wrote: Dont be morons to ban some ip-s, ban mac adresses Those are burned in the pc of every users and isp-s verífy with mac adresses too. isnt the mac address tied to the NIC? In that case, just buy a new NIC lolz. I'm not sure about that tho...
Yes, the MAC address is tied to the NIC. Every NIC has its own unique MAC address.
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JackB4u3r
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Post subject: Posted: Wed Apr 04, 2007 8:17 pm |
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They must make updates for several versions of SilkRoad, they don't have time to find a way to detect modded clients. xD
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Post subject: Posted: Wed Apr 04, 2007 8:21 pm |
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PsYch008 wrote: Stephanus wrote: Dont be morons to ban some ip-s, ban mac adresses Those are burned in the pc of every users and isp-s verífy with mac adresses too. isnt the mac address tied to the NIC? In that case, just buy a new NIC lolz. I'm not sure about that tho...
but its still better than IP ban 
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satman83
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Post subject: Posted: Wed Apr 04, 2007 8:27 pm |
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lets not get carried away....lets find away to stop bots form logging on
before we start banning them
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