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JacksColon
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Post subject: Rant about Alchemy Posted: Mon Jan 28, 2008 6:09 pm |
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Amelie
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Post subject: Re: Rant about Alchemy Posted: Mon Jan 28, 2008 6:17 pm |
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i feel you. probably crit and blocking ratio are the worst stats to do alchemy. I've had my experiences also by doing that, it's very frustrating. At the end is like a challenge to me, to at least fix it. So i just insist till i get a good number on the stat.  keep trying =)
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Post subject: Re: Rant about Alchemy Posted: Mon Jan 28, 2008 6:19 pm |
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There is a theory that each item has a fixed 'luck stat'. Some items are to be pimped out, some aren't And tbh critical is a very hard thing to increase =/
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Post subject: Re: Rant about Alchemy Posted: Mon Jan 28, 2008 6:19 pm |
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u got it lucky i failed about 50 times trying to raise my rit from 1 to 5+ on my blade it went like this
fail fail fail fail fail fail fail fail fail fail fail fail fail fail fail 4 crit fail fail fail fail fail fail fail 9 crit and that was the end fianly -.-
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JacksColon
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Post subject: Re: Rant about Alchemy Posted: Mon Jan 28, 2008 6:20 pm |
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haha yeah, it's amazing how it can get addictive! I failed the other day and it went from 8 to 2 and I was like OMG, NOW I GOTTA FIX THIS! and I ended up failing like 4 times. So, last night I tried, since I had the elements and some tabs and failed like 4 more times. Then, I said "Screw this!" and bought some tabs, failed like 2-3 more times GRRRRRRR!!!!! 
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JacksColon
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Post subject: Re: Rant about Alchemy Posted: Mon Jan 28, 2008 6:21 pm |
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Nader wrote: i used to get like that, i had these lvl 42 daggers i was getting ready for, so i went to pimp it, couldnt get str or int past1 on them -.- and the crit wouldnt go past 11..., Dude, you're lucky! If I could get get crit 11, I"d be in heaven with these damn things 
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Post subject: Re: Rant about Alchemy Posted: Mon Jan 28, 2008 6:22 pm |
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Depending on your degree, make cheap ruby stones for your weapon and use those to try and assimilate the other stats ^_^
I would use certain useless stones that I got from destroying items at 8D on my equipment before really putting forth the expenses and effort to try and improve the item. One of the more recent successes was getting a shield to assimilate its block rate from 10 to 18 with a reinforcement stone.
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JacksColon
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Post subject: Re: Rant about Alchemy Posted: Mon Jan 28, 2008 6:25 pm |
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whitesnow wrote: Depending on your degree, make cheap ruby stones for your weapon and use those to try and assimilate the other stats ^_^
I would use certain useless stones that I got from destroying items at 8D on my equipment before really putting forth the expenses and effort to try and improve the item. One of the more recent successes was getting a shield to assimilate its block rate from 10 to 18 with a reinforcement stone. I got some of the other stats to improve. When I failed the crit, it reduced the % on my phys attack to +0% so I got the stats on that improved as well as the % up to like 80% I think. I'll post screens tonight if I remember.
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Post subject: Re: Rant about Alchemy Posted: Mon Jan 28, 2008 6:27 pm |
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JacksColon wrote: Nader wrote: i used to get like that, i had these lvl 42 daggers i was getting ready for, so i went to pimp it, couldnt get str or int past1 on them -.- and the crit wouldnt go past 11..., Dude, you're lucky! If I could get get crit 11, I"d be in heaven with these damn things  but crit 11 isnt that good on daggers, it good, but not that good, max crit is 25
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Post subject: Re: Rant about Alchemy Posted: Mon Jan 28, 2008 6:58 pm |
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Nader wrote: JacksColon wrote: Nader wrote: i used to get like that, i had these lvl 42 daggers i was getting ready for, so i went to pimp it, couldnt get str or int past1 on them -.- and the crit wouldnt go past 11..., Dude, you're lucky! If I could get get crit 11, I"d be in heaven with these damn things  but crit 11 isnt that good on daggers, it good, but not that good, max crit is 25 that's true. crit for daggers is insanely high. well, still, it's better than 2 
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Post subject: Re: Rant about Alchemy Posted: Mon Jan 28, 2008 7:48 pm |
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I had a +4 lv 52 xbow, I thought: it needs STR I added 1 stone: fail The other stone gave me +5 str, I was kinda happy yeah. So the other day, I thought, let's add Int, it can't hurt to have more int. So I bought int stones, 4 failed. The last one (30% assimilation chance) succeeded, I checken my screen for any assimilations: my +5 Str went to +1  I just added 2 str stones, and now it's +3, but it was just so fckedup that it went to str1
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JacksColon
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Post subject: Re: Rant about Alchemy Posted: Mon Jan 28, 2008 8:20 pm |
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Rush4Life wrote: I had a +4 lv 52 xbow, I thought: it needs STR I added 1 stone: fail The other stone gave me +5 str, I was kinda happy yeah. So the other day, I thought, let's add Int, it can't hurt to have more int. So I bought int stones, 4 failed. The last one (30% assimilation chance) succeeded, I checken my screen for any assimilations: my +5 Str went to +1  I just added 2 str stones, and now it's +3, but it was just so fckedup that it went to str1 EEK! Yes, I hate it when stuff like that happens. It's not bad enough it fails or w/e but it also has to screw up OTHER stats and blues etc.?! man, what a pain haha
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Post subject: Re: Rant about Alchemy Posted: Mon Jan 28, 2008 9:12 pm |
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I'm gonna say keep trying and try to give the axes to sm1 else to fuse them 4 u, his luck might be better than urs(sm1 with a premium maybe)...
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Post subject: Re: Rant about Alchemy Posted: Mon Jan 28, 2008 9:22 pm |
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 Yeah Finally had some decent cash through all the trading/weekly pay and items I sold. Bought some strength stones, all 7 failed. I was rather upset 
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Post subject: Re: Rant about Alchemy Posted: Mon Jan 28, 2008 9:52 pm |
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VersaLicious wrote: I'm gonna say keep trying and try to give the axes to sm1 else to fuse them 4 u, his luck might be better than urs(sm1 with a premium maybe)... I have premium I might give 'em to ravey to do. she got my axes +5 in one try, so maybe she's luckier hehe
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Post subject: Re: Rant about Alchemy Posted: Mon Jan 28, 2008 10:50 pm |
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JacksColon wrote: VersaLicious wrote: I'm gonna say keep trying and try to give the axes to sm1 else to fuse them 4 u, his luck might be better than urs(sm1 with a premium maybe)... I have premium I might give 'em to ravey to do. she got my axes +5 in one try, so maybe she's luckier hehe nice and if u plan to use these Axes till the 90 cap...pimp them to the MAX 
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Post subject: Re: Rant about Alchemy Posted: Mon Jan 28, 2008 11:05 pm |
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it took me about 15 challenge stones to make my sword from 4 crit(0%) to 7. and also when that happend, i got a freaking attribute assimilation which zeroed my mag attack. so there's worth 
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Post subject: Re: Rant about Alchemy Posted: Tue Jan 29, 2008 3:31 am |
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crit and br is the worst IMO... spent like 30m , end up still at crit 2 LOL but last nite was my day 2>>7 >>12 woot....enough for my glaive not gonna touch it anymore 
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Post subject: Re: Rant about Alchemy Posted: Tue Jan 29, 2008 3:49 am |
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you know they're called CHALLENGE stones for a reason XD
spent 30 mil ish on my sos 64 blade to get 10 =.=
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Post subject: Re: Rant about Alchemy Posted: Tue Jan 29, 2008 3:51 am |
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Don't. Do. Alchemy. In. Town.
This seems to improve my alchemy success by 23752856%
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Post subject: Re: Rant about Alchemy Posted: Tue Jan 29, 2008 4:58 am |
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I haven't done alchemy much because I never got into the higher levels, but im not looking forward to it from what i hear -_-
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Post subject: Re: Rant about Alchemy Posted: Tue Jan 29, 2008 2:54 pm |
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Well maybe that only works with me but i always do my alchemy right after the inspection and it always work .. So you should try that also  .
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Post subject: Re: Rant about Alchemy Posted: Tue Jan 29, 2008 2:58 pm |
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Aurelli wrote: Well maybe that only works with me but i always do my alchemy right after the inspection and it always work .. So you should try that also  . Unfortunately for me, "right after inspection" is about 2:30am or 3am on a weeknight. With work in the morning, there's no way I'm getting up to spend at least a half hour on alchemy 
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Post subject: Re: Rant about Alchemy Posted: Tue Jan 29, 2008 3:21 pm |
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Amelie wrote: probably crit and blocking ratio are the worst stats to do alchemy.
Lady Ame is right. If you got the money, keep on trying, or, try to get it up by assimilation via Int/Str, or Mag % (seems to work for me)
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Post subject: Re: Rant about Alchemy Posted: Tue Jan 29, 2008 3:33 pm |
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Trice wrote: Amelie wrote: probably crit and blocking ratio are the worst stats to do alchemy.
Lady Ame is right. If you got the money, keep on trying, or, try to get it up by assimilation via Int/Str, or Mag % (seems to work for me) Yeah, that's my goal I think. I'm going to get as many blues as possible and hope for assimilation. I have some decent int/str on there now, but want to get that full. I'm grinding for stones and elements at the moment, so, yeah...I"ll try again soon 
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Post subject: Re: Rant about Alchemy Posted: Tue Jan 29, 2008 4:13 pm |
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I had 72+5 12c glavie 100% blues 74% phy and mag decnt reinforce.. So i needed to change att rating % white. Used a 10% stone. I had 2c lolz. After tons of stones I let my brother try first stone back to 12..
Keep trying some 10% then maybe if u got someone u can trust get them to try few stones...GL to you mate..
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Post subject: Re: Rant about Alchemy Posted: Tue Jan 29, 2008 4:15 pm |
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i love alchemy
my 72-77 prot set is almost perfect, just missing, 1str, 10% parry, and 150MP,
my jewels is another story, 3 str and pretty much all immunes
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