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MrFudge
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Post subject: Warlock Magic damage based on INT? Posted: Wed Jul 18, 2007 11:06 pm |
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im wondering if the curses you put on people are based on how much INT you've got.
so far it sounds like "puts poisoning curse on enemy which does X amount of damage over time"
and doesnt sound like that damage is increased if youve got more int.
so is it absolute damage? i know there are skills which are entirely magic based, im not concerned about those.
just wondering if a pure str warlock would work, just stuning and weakening the person to death.
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CMG230
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Post subject: uhh Posted: Wed Jul 18, 2007 11:07 pm |
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uhh i dont believe its absolute, because ive seen the pics/vids of the curses doing over like 600+ per second, where in the first place the curse does under 700 damage over 12 seconds so its enhanced soem how. but im really not sure
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CMG230
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Post subject: oh Posted: Wed Jul 18, 2007 11:08 pm |
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oh and bye the way your sig is the best ive ever seen rofl
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GaS
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Post subject: Posted: Wed Jul 18, 2007 11:26 pm |
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A warlock's skills are magic so the more in you have the more damage you will do every tick.
So lets say a pure str warlock did an attack that ticked three times for
230+230+230 = 690
So three ticks did a total of 690 damage over time but a pure int warlock did the same attack and hes the same level doing
1020+1020+1020=3060 over time. So yeah... You can try a pure str warlock if you want. I don't know if you'd like it as much as a pure int.
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VforVendetta
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Post subject: Posted: Wed Jul 18, 2007 11:31 pm |
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There is no such thing as a good strength Warlock, Warlocks weapon is ONLY Int and Magical damage based, adding strength would defeat the purpose of making your magical balance and magical attack stronger.
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CMG230
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Post subject: hmm Posted: Wed Jul 18, 2007 11:43 pm |
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can you still smack someone with warlock rod?
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im_a_bot
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Post subject: Re: Warlock Magic damage based on INT? Posted: Wed Jul 18, 2007 11:44 pm |
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MrFudge wrote: im wondering if the curses you put on people are based on how much INT you've got.
so far it sounds like "puts poisoning curse on enemy which does X amount of damage over time"
and doesnt sound like that damage is increased if youve got more int.
so is it absolute damage? i know there are skills which are entirely magic based, im not concerned about those.
just wondering if a pure str warlock would work, just stuning and weakening the person to death.
i love ur sig and yea warlocks are magical based but if i was you i would put 2 points in int and 1 point in str so you dont have hyper low hitpoints
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CMG230
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Post subject: hmm Posted: Wed Jul 18, 2007 11:53 pm |
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i was thinkin 2:1 but warlocks are really gunna be the hardest class to hit. 2 stuns 80% probability + shield theyll prob be equally hard to kill as a visible rogue IMO. im goin pure int
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MrFudge
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Post subject: Posted: Wed Jul 18, 2007 11:55 pm |
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hybrid int warlock?
is the damage good enough to sacrifice some int like on spears?
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GaS
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Post subject: Posted: Wed Jul 18, 2007 11:56 pm |
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A hybrid warlock is just a warlock with a little more hp (depending what kind of hybrid you are) and will never do as much damage as a pure int warlock would.
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MrFudge
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Post subject: Posted: Wed Jul 18, 2007 11:57 pm |
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GaS wrote: A hybrid warlock is just a warlock with a little more hp (depending what kind of hybrid you are) and will never do as much damage as a pure int warlock would.
wow really? 
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CMG230
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Post subject: hmm Posted: Wed Jul 18, 2007 11:58 pm |
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my guess is 2:1 hybrid lock will do equal damage to pure int chinese nuker. with more life and has stuns and more skills. so pure int will be signif more damage i think.
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GaS
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Post subject: Posted: Wed Jul 18, 2007 11:59 pm |
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MrFudge wrote: GaS wrote: A hybrid warlock is just a warlock with a little more hp (depending what kind of hybrid you are) and will never do as much damage as a pure int warlock would. wow really? 
Noo way1!!1
Think about it MR, a hybrid spear gets extra health and can deal more damage with physical attacks.
A hybrid warlock would only get extra health and no other benefit.
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im_a_bot
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Post subject: Posted: Wed Jul 18, 2007 11:59 pm |
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hybrid warlocks own int warlocks in ksro so i still say hybrid :p
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CMG230
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Post subject: huh Posted: Thu Jul 19, 2007 12:01 am |
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im_a_bot wrote: hybrid warlocks own int warlocks in ksro so i still say hybrid :p
really? wow... what kind of hybrid? int 2:1
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Tetsumaru
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Post subject: Posted: Thu Jul 19, 2007 12:03 am |
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no.
wait.
hybrids will suck, the entire point of euro is to have pure builds, thats why weapons only have one kind of damage on them (either magic or physical)
but also, the d.o.t. skills will inflict status effects like poison/burn which are not effected by int, and also the warlock has a bunch of set damage skills (like this one where it does damage if you step inside a certain radius, or the life steal) and those arent based on int either. i think a funny build would be warlock, pure str, but also have warrior as sub-class. cast stun, poison, burn, lower enemy defense, switch weapons and then go at it.
also you would be able to wear full heavy armor.
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VforVendetta
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Post subject: Posted: Thu Jul 19, 2007 12:04 am |
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Doing hybrids will only get you a certain amount of another stat, but it will never work out as an advantage in attack powers, as Melee weapons are ONLY physical attack and Magical weapons have ONLY Magical attack. Unlike the chinese which has both attacks.
One-Handed Sword - Only Physical
Two Handed Sword - Only Physical
Dual Axe - Only Physical
Daggers - Only Physical
Crossbow - Only Physical
With physical weapons you cannot cast magic, or do nukes or whatever, you are restricted to using the skills that are meant for the weapon.
Warlock Rod - Only Magical Attack
Wizard Staff - Only Magical Attack
Cleric Rod - Only Magical Attack
Harp - Only Magical Attack
With Magical weapons you can only use magical attacks, and have no physical powers whatsoever.
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CMG230
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Post subject: so Posted: Thu Jul 19, 2007 12:09 am |
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s owhat happens if i run outta mana on my warlock. just gotta sit there and tank till i can hit again? gunan suck at lower lvls. would be smarter to go warrior/warlock as sub. i almost did a rogue with lock secondary to weaken them
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Tetsumaru
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Post subject: Posted: Thu Jul 19, 2007 12:11 am |
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haha yeah i DID (not almost) a rogue with warlock secondary and it turned out pretty well.
easy enough to take down party mobs, just poison burn and shoot.
but it doesnt really matter which one is the sub, they will both be the same level.
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CMG230
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Post subject: oh Posted: Thu Jul 19, 2007 12:14 am |
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yah good call lol, im thinking weaken, stealth, increase damage buffs like all the +attack power + damage - defense things, stealth and 1 shot them  would be pretty hawt
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Jay
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Post subject: Posted: Thu Jul 19, 2007 1:13 am |
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full int sounds good..but I just can't stand to have a full int char with low hp even with alchamy i'd prefer to have some extra hp so i guess i'd go hybrid for the hp maybe not alot but enough to have decent hp.
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Bazinator
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Post subject: Posted: Thu Jul 19, 2007 1:23 am |
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hybrid worlock would suck u can wear light armour u dont hav to wear rbe and u can hav a shield so its like with the def bonuses of being a hybrid wizard when ur pure int warlock..
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IceCrash
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Post subject: Posted: Thu Jul 19, 2007 1:42 am |
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roflmao,
yea ppl go hybrid int, or pure str warlock plz
or better, dont go warlock at all
thanks
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MrFudge
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Post subject: Posted: Thu Jul 19, 2007 1:50 am |
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im just thinking pure str warlock cuz i want cleric as main and im only concerned about not dying.
pure str cleric heal myself and use warlock shit on other people and just heal myself constantly, i just never wanna die lol.
tahts the only reason i made this topic.
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kukuclan
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Post subject: Posted: Thu Jul 19, 2007 1:52 am |
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[NF]IceCrash wrote: roflmao, yea ppl go hybrid int, or pure str warlock plz  or better, dont go warlock at all  thanks
I think icecrash knows that warlock is awesome and doesn't want other people to know that
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Tetsumaru
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Post subject: Posted: Thu Jul 19, 2007 5:50 am |
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MrFudge wrote: im just thinking pure str warlock cuz i want cleric as main and im only concerned about not dying.
pure str cleric heal myself and use warlock shit on other people and just heal myself constantly, i just never wanna die lol.
tahts the only reason i made this topic. you wouldnt be able to kill anything, and you wouldnt even be able to heal yourself that well.
you would have 10 magic attack when everyone else has 2500.
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sunmoon
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Post subject: Posted: Thu Jul 19, 2007 6:25 am |
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idc i'm all immune, try to curse poison me to death, cuz u can't 
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Post subject: Posted: Thu Jul 19, 2007 6:32 am |
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Since even Pure str Euro chars die in a few hits....hybrid would kill the dmg on warlock. Hit as hard as you can....Pure int.
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