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 Post subject: New bow skills in PvP
PostPosted: Mon Jul 30, 2007 4:19 am 
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http://youtube.com/watch?v=-BJMVH54xsM

You can see the new hawk does about 500-600 dmg, and that bow is now just as good as glaviers. With the shorter cast time in strongbow + knockback + stun they mean serious business.

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nice nice, but dude, u got sun bow and probably few suns garm parts, and where all nukers with 50% dmg absorbation? i would like to see u pwning them, anyway iam bower myself 77 and i have no suns so i can't kill any build my level, well i can nuerks if they noobs withotu mana shield.


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i have no words.. omfg owning stuff

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lol undutchable is one of the best archer ive seen.

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Archers are facking badasses..I was going to drop Heuksal for Pacheon but ugh..all the arrows I would have to carry..:(

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nice nice, but dude, u got sun bow and probably few suns garm parts, and where all nukers with 50% dmg absorbation? i would like to see u pwning them, anyway iam bower myself 77 and i have no suns so i can't kill any build my level, well i can nuerks if they noobs withotu mana shield.

Not my vid, but yeah you can see a 11k crit there :shock:

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even with mana/ice shield, nukers cant kill pure str bows because knockback happens so much, after 2 minutes, the nuker ends up dying.

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MrFudge wrote:
even with mana/ice shield, nukers cant kill pure str bows because knockback happens so much, after 2 minutes, the nuker ends up dying.



hum not really <_< nuker can take down archer with kd/stab and archer can't block hit and dont have castle/fan skill to protect themself

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even with mana/ice shield, nukers cant kill pure str bows because knockback happens so much, after 2 minutes, the nuker ends up dying.



hum not really <_< nuker can take down archer with kd/stab and archer can't block hit and dont have castle/fan skill to protect themself


i will ...dual weapon :P , but i think you could outlast their 2 mins with firewall + swap to shield when knocked down anyway

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after the 2 mins is up just safe zone, Up to him to stop u getting there.


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frankaslt1 wrote:
nice nice, but dude, u got sun bow and probably few suns garm parts, and where all nukers with 50% dmg absorbation? i would like to see u pwning them, anyway iam bower myself 77 and i have no suns so i can't kill any build my level, well i can nuerks if they noobs withotu mana shield.


I am a level 77 bower with +4 set and +5 bow. I can kill people my level with equal gear and I am farmed very very badly.

Undutchable has sun bow + some sun items if I am correct.

The only way a nuker kills me nowadays if he is higher leveled and fully farmed or if he actually knows how to play. Most nukers just stand there and nuke away, and they cant kill me. Even if they nuke me for 8-9k.

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the majority of those fights were quite one sided. To start off, he's using a Sosun bow, and as another has posted above, has possible sun items. The only sun user that he pvp'd only got a few hits off - and only got hit 8.3k from a sun nuker. Either that nuker is way too hybrid, a lower level, or Dutch has quite a number of suns. Not to mention, a few of the opponents weren't even ice immune, which probably means they weren't on top of their game in overall alchemy.


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Fat_Smurf wrote:
MrFudge wrote:
even with mana/ice shield, nukers cant kill pure str bows because knockback happens so much, after 2 minutes, the nuker ends up dying.



hum not really <_< nuker can take down archer with kd/stab and archer can't block hit and dont have castle/fan skill to protect themself



lol kd/stab?? doesnt scratch anything, plus u can whip out a shield when ur knocked down.

pure str bow can also get 20% mana shield and just knock the nuker back nonstop lol, or try and stun it.

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Pure int is no match for STR bow now as far as I can see. But a well balanced INT hybird spear with mana shield might just do the trick.

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few days ago i was watchign fight, lvl 80 nuker 3 sun garm parts oterh +5 and +5 sword, lvl 80 bower , sun+7 bow +4-5 garms, and tahst bower coudln't kill the nuker, his dmg was just to low to kill him cuz he had maxed mana shield and keep kd bower, after few misn fight bower got owned.


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a bow beat glavier? wtf? lol

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MrFudge wrote:
Fat_Smurf wrote:
MrFudge wrote:
even with mana/ice shield, nukers cant kill pure str bows because knockback happens so much, after 2 minutes, the nuker ends up dying.



hum not really <_< nuker can take down archer with kd/stab and archer can't block hit and dont have castle/fan skill to protect themself



lol kd/stab?? doesnt scratch anything, plus u can whip out a shield when ur knocked down.

pure str bow can also get 20% mana shield and just knock the nuker back nonstop lol, or try and stun it


A Str Hyb can get 50% Mana Shield 8)

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ok we all know no build is better than another, every build can own another one, but about archer beeing impossible to kill by an int it's ridiculous... int can kill glaver then why wouldn't they kill archer wich are easier to kill?


and it really depend of the player skill if he know how to fight what to do and when to do it. Int can own everyone but since they wont last longer as str you need to be smarter and know how to play ur char cause mistake arent allowed :P

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knock backs are nice, he didnt get much hit :]

sun bow really helps alot

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It was sosun bow vs. non-sosun weapons. I'm also willing to bet the archer had sun garments and jewelry on. On an equal playing field, archers get beat by just about any build.

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You don't use Devil Arrow? >.>.

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uBeR wrote:
It was sosun bow vs. non-sosun weapons. I'm also willing to bet the archer had sun garments and jewelry on. On an equal playing field, archers get beat by just about any build.

Since when is it "unfair" to pvp someone who has a sun weapon? Stop being ridiculous, there was a pvp in my server between a sun bow and glavie, both fully farmed and lvl 80, sun bow won.

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no use for devil arrow now because it takes the longest to cast.

2 antidevils with crit increases
1 strongbow with stun and crit increase and shot distance
5 arrow combo with knockback.

undutchable doesnt have any sun gear, he only has a sun weapon +5.

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Having sosun doenst make you an experienced player.

I know some bowers who would just totally kill anything alive with a sosun bow, I also know sosun bowers who can only kill because they got a sosun bow and not because they actually know how to play.

A sosun bow owner should be able to 2 hit any nuker who doesnt know how to play. However a nuker who knows how to play can survive i figure if he has some luck..

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kevv wrote:
uBeR wrote:
It was sosun bow vs. non-sosun weapons. I'm also willing to bet the archer had sun garments and jewelry on. On an equal playing field, archers get beat by just about any build.

Since when is it "unfair" to pvp someone who has a sun weapon? Stop being ridiculous, there was a pvp in my server between a sun bow and glavie, both fully farmed and lvl 80, sun bow won.

I don't thikn the point was to say its unfair, but that this can't prove how much the skills help with archers in general since it is the bow that gives the most advantage there.


But Either the way the skills definatly do help archers in this way, we own so much more :d.

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Nice, Ive always wanted to see those skills in action
This is what archers really needed
too bad the lower lvl skills dont have the extra effects, thts just too bad.


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kevv wrote:
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It was sosun bow vs. non-sosun weapons. I'm also willing to bet the archer had sun garments and jewelry on. On an equal playing field, archers get beat by just about any build.

Since when is it "unfair" to pvp someone who has a sun weapon? Stop being ridiculous, there was a pvp in my server between a sun bow and glavie, both fully farmed and lvl 80, sun bow won.

Since when did I say it was unfair? I said it's unequal, because it is. If it were equal, archers will lose. That's all there is to it.

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uBeR wrote:
kevv wrote:
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It was sosun bow vs. non-sosun weapons. I'm also willing to bet the archer had sun garments and jewelry on. On an equal playing field, archers get beat by just about any build.

Since when is it "unfair" to pvp someone who has a sun weapon? Stop being ridiculous, there was a pvp in my server between a sun bow and glavie, both fully farmed and lvl 80, sun bow won.

Since when did I say it was unfair? I said it's unequal, because it is. If it were equal, archers will lose. That's all there is to it.


archers will lose? lol only if theyre not farmed.

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kevv wrote:
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It was sosun bow vs. non-sosun weapons. I'm also willing to bet the archer had sun garments and jewelry on. On an equal playing field, archers get beat by just about any build.

Since when is it "unfair" to pvp someone who has a sun weapon? Stop being ridiculous, there was a pvp in my server between a sun bow and glavie, both fully farmed and lvl 80, sun bow won.


state your proof or screenshots...or it didnt happen

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