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 Post subject: can u get hacked by exchange?
PostPosted: Wed Aug 08, 2007 12:05 am 
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my guildmate and me are worried because we made exchange with a well-know hacker on our server... i always used stall to sell and buy items, but we've done a exchange item for item, so we cant use stall, and now our whole union is saying that we are going to be hacked...

is this possible or only rumours?
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yes and no. Generally, if you lose all your stuff soon, then yes.

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no.

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Theres no WAY to get hacked by exchange.

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PostPosted: Wed Aug 08, 2007 12:10 am 
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Yes.

Next time when you see the guy(leet omg wth haxxr) type no_hax_plis in the chat,and then your save buddy!


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Yes.

Next time when you see the guy(leet omg wth haxxr) type no_hax_plis in the chat,and then your save buddy!


And you're spamming why?

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I read someplace that when you accept a trade the hacer can exploit a security thing in few seconds and hack you:-)

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Blurred wrote:
Theres no WAY to get hacked by exchange.


actually people can get hacked this way i believe


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heads wrote:
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Theres no WAY to get hacked by exchange.


actually people can get hacked this way i believe


Please.. Explain.

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Actually, back when I use to play SRO seriously, around the Babel gold dupping time, there was this huge scare going around that you could be hacked if you accepted an exchange or party. That was like 6 months ago, but I think it was nothing more than rumors.

Here are some really old threads about it:

http://www.silkroadforums.com/viewtopic.php?t=23046

http://www.silkroadforums.com/viewtopic.php?t=17414

Anyways, just to be safe, only exchange with people you know and always sell/buy via stall.


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heads wrote:
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Theres no WAY to get hacked by exchange.


actually people can get hacked this way i believe


Yea...and i can hack you by PVP..i need only 20sec. :shock:

Dammit...you are like old ppl guys, believing averything :(

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Blurred wrote:
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Theres no WAY to get hacked by exchange.


actually people can get hacked this way i believe


Please.. Explain.


yeah i wanna know if there is a truth to that

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I read someplace that when you accept a trade the hacer can exploit a security thing in few seconds and hack you:-)


that would be Kalonline I think

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but u cant use stalls when u are trading a item for another one...

my guildmate asks -> if it would be possible to hack with that, its usefull to change the pass or it wont help?


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No one's gonna give you an outright yes or no answer. If you read the threads I posted, a lot of people believed it to be true at one point. There's no harm in changing your password, but if the exploit is used to get your ID, then you could still be brute forced. Just change it to random letters and numbers, or randomly capitalized "leet speak." (Yes, leet speak can be useful at times) It's pretty much impossible to bruteforce those passwords.


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Well the general idea between the exchange hack is that when you exchange them that they can see your username and password by decrypting the packets your client sends them. So...if they rumors are true, you should be safe by changing your password.

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Seriously people... if someone wants to hack you, they could do it by means other than exchange windows... like thru PVPing, stalling, partying, etc. Heck, if you grind and the mob drops gold or an item, it has your information on the item for a period of time too until it becomes free for grab.


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Phemy wrote:
Actually, back when I use to play SRO seriously, around the Babel gold dupping time, there was this huge scare going around that you could be hacked if you accepted an exchange or party. That was like 6 months ago, but I think it was nothing more than rumors.

Here are some really old threads about it:

http://www.silkroadforums.com/viewtopic.php?t=23046

http://www.silkroadforums.com/viewtopic.php?t=17414

Anyways, just to be safe, only exchange with people you know and always sell/buy via stall.



it was a good excuse to use when u get hacked by downloading cracked bots

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no its not why on earth would it send packets containing your id and pw the packets being sent during exchange are the same ones being sent when you even SEE a player on screen if you are afraid of being hacked through exchange well... then you better run far far away where no one will find you EVER!

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I exchanged with a hacker once...

I got cancer. :(

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no its not why on earth would it send packets containing your id and pw the packets being sent during exchange are the same ones being sent when you even SEE a player on screen if you are afraid of being hacked through exchange well... then you better run far far away where no one will find you EVER!


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I think the id and pw are sent when you login, so how can they get it via a simple exchange?

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Seriously people... if someone wants to hack you, they could do it by means other than exchange windows... like thru PVPing, stalling, partying, etc. Heck, if you grind and the mob drops gold or an item, it has your information on the item for a period of time too until it becomes free for grab.


I was going to make a post saying the same thing, but he beat me to it. :(

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It might not be password, but it could be ID. Let's face it, Joymax could be a tad careless, like how you were once able to quote someone to get their ID. If they have your ID, then they could just bruteforce you. I don't think the website has any protection against bruteforcing.


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I got my GF pregnent when I traded my coca cola for her mountain dew.

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Phemy wrote:
It might not be password, but it could be ID. Let's face it, Joymax could be a tad careless, like how you were once able to quote someone to get their ID. If they have your ID, then they could just bruteforce you. I don't think the website has any protection against bruteforcing.


bruteforce? if someone can bruteforce your password, your an idiot...try implementing some basic password security ie: a good password is a start :roll:


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im not shure if you can get hacked by exchange but its not worth the risk i dont like how you cant trade over 999m gold i cant buy/sell anything over 999m without the risk of getting scammed :(

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I lol @ this thread and the naivete within.

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I lol @ this thread and the naivete within.

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I don't know about other servers, but i remember in begining of Open beta at Xian server, there were lot of problems with security, and there were bugs, and lot of rollbacks, and I remember there were rumors about exchange hack. I Don't know it might be true, everything can happen.

But there rumors actually started in pretty dumb way. My friend got scamed for shitloads of money(yes, hes idiot), and on global he said that 1 guy named like"sd__ownage_ok" hacked him threw exchange. What happend next? some other idiots remembered they also lost money threw exchange with this guy(of course they were dumb and got scamed), so they also said that hes hacking. It went pretty bad.

Oh and if there is 1 guy, like well know hacker to everyone, and hes bragging or something like that, then hes not near good hacker than there are.


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Thats what Ive heard. Im kind of paranoid. I never accept anyones exchange (if its not my guildmates or really trustee friends). I always ask for the exchange to be sure. Its the same about partys, I never accept a party coming from someone else than my guildmates or trustee friend. Otherwise I joina via the party match system.

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