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NuclearSilo
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Post subject: JM and their tactic to make money - Ice force Posted: Mon Aug 27, 2007 2:19 am |
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- Just my thought -
This is about the ice immunity.
Cap 60-70, ppl had no freeze immunity and it was very useful both in pve and pvp. At that time, ice blader was consider the best tanker and it's the best build. Yes, there was a lot of ice blader. Using ice combo + nova to waste the enemy's pill within 2 mins  , and then hit them until it has no more pot and die... Who ever saw a ice blader had to run away.
Still at the cap 70, JM released an alchemy update, with the fire shield, rend players the ability to immune of ice. After that, most ppl thought that ice was useless. They dropped ice for fire. And then, resuscitation potion from item mall involved. JM gained a considerable amount of money from that.
The cap 80 is about the snow shield skill (mana shield). They made it so useful that a lot of ppl, mostly pure int had to drop fire for ice. But well, those who has exceed masteries and sp may learn all. Once again, ppl need resuscitation potion, if they are rich and lazy to do curse heart quest.
In the future, the update could be fixing the fire shield so the history will be like a cap 60-70, and we may see ice blader mana shield the best tanker again. So ppl start to delevel skill again.
In the next of the next update, JM will release an update with anti-freeze drug. Once again, ppl would be immune to ice. 30 mins for 1 drug is enough to do pvp and job war.
So if the drug is released, it's the end of story about ice immune. And i dont see if there is any other way to make ppl freeze with that drug.
In conclusion what i want to say, ice will be useless and u shouldnt take that as main force. 
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Post subject: Posted: Mon Aug 27, 2007 2:21 am |
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wat is your source for this ant-freeze drug 
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Post subject: Posted: Mon Aug 27, 2007 2:22 am |
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Nice theory but isn't it really obvious that JM wants to earn money already? By implementing the Premium Mall while keeping the game F2P was their whole tactic.
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Post subject: Re: JM and their tactic to make money - Ice force Posted: Mon Aug 27, 2007 2:23 am |
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NuclearSilo wrote: In the next of the next update, JM will release an update with anti-freeze drug. Once again, ppl would be immune to ice. 30 mins for 1 drug is enough to do pvp and job war. So if the drug is released, it's the end of story about ice immune. And i dont see if there is any other way to make ppl freeze with that drug. In conclusion what i want to say, ice will be useless and u shouldnt take that as main force. 
Unless you have solid proof about a ice-immune potion, I really hope you are joking.
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Post subject: Posted: Mon Aug 27, 2007 4:31 am |
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and the "anti-freeze drug" is going to availible ...guess where .....dun dundunnnn....item mall only 
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Post subject: Posted: Mon Aug 27, 2007 5:15 am |
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Post subject: Posted: Mon Aug 27, 2007 5:18 am |
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they can't even patch a game right and you think they thought all this up....your insane...almost as insane as JM!!!
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Gusy
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Post subject: Posted: Mon Aug 27, 2007 5:55 am |
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That drug better not be true 
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Post subject: Posted: Mon Aug 27, 2007 6:04 am |
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what u said seems to make sense... we'll wait and see.
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Nyte
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Post subject: Posted: Mon Aug 27, 2007 6:15 am |
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JM is going to read this topic and get ideas, it is the public that thinks of these theories and ideas, which ultimately leading them to come to life =p
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Post subject: Posted: Mon Aug 27, 2007 6:52 am |
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Its just a theory. Doing so will upset the balance of the game, rendering as you said, ice effects useless. So the pots will be limited in some way, maybe expensive, or only item mall. But who knows, its JM after all that we're discussing here 
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vindicated01
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Post subject: Posted: Mon Aug 27, 2007 6:58 am |
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who said ice is useless......
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Post subject: Posted: Mon Aug 27, 2007 7:15 am |
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just another nuclearsilo rant/theory 
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Post subject: Posted: Mon Aug 27, 2007 7:25 am |
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Uhmm .. back in 60 cap some people were immune, so don't give us that bullshit.
Also .. it's people's own fault they can't decide what they want as build. Theres so freaking many lvl 80 suns on Xian that don't have total ice immunity, so to go as far as saying ice is useless?
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DarkJackal
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Post subject: Posted: Mon Aug 27, 2007 8:00 am |
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Ice is my fav, but the way the game is now its not worth it except to like lvl 40 for mana shield, the defence is all right but doesn't mke too much of a diff at higher lvls, and even with out fireshield though, clerics/bard can basicly make the effect useless.
I think they should just take all "reduce" alchemy stats out ;d.
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NuclearSilo
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Post subject: Posted: Mon Aug 27, 2007 10:50 am |
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Post subject: Posted: Mon Aug 27, 2007 11:14 am |
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70 cap we had already had ice immunity
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DrunkiMunki
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Post subject: Posted: Mon Aug 27, 2007 11:16 am |
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this one is last in my list of favorite conspiracy theorys.
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Post subject: Re: JM and their tactic to make money - Ice force Posted: Mon Aug 27, 2007 11:39 am |
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NuclearSilo wrote: - Just my thought -  In the next of the next update, JM will release an update with anti-freeze drug. Once again, ppl would be immune to ice. 30 mins for 1 drug is enough to do pvp and job war. So if the drug is released, it's the end of story about ice immune. And i dont see if there is any other way to make ppl freeze with that drug.
meh
what i understand from your theory is this:
JM are a bunch of terrorists that are trying to get money by selling drugs
 OMG someone get the CIA
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Post subject: Re: JM and their tactic to make money - Ice force Posted: Mon Aug 27, 2007 11:40 am |
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Soul_Thief wrote: NuclearSilo wrote: - Just my thought -  In the next of the next update, JM will release an update with anti-freeze drug. Once again, ppl would be immune to ice. 30 mins for 1 drug is enough to do pvp and job war. So if the drug is released, it's the end of story about ice immune. And i dont see if there is any other way to make ppl freeze with that drug. meh what i understand from your theory is this: JM are a bunch of terrorists that are trying to get money by selling drugs  OMG someone get the CIA
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Post subject: Posted: Mon Aug 27, 2007 11:47 am |
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BakaFish wrote: Nice theory but isn't it really obvious that JM wants to earn money already? By implementing the Premium Mall while keeping the game F2P was their whole tactic. That wasn't a tactic, it was just oppurtunity. Quote: 70 cap we had already had ice immunity
60 Cap there was allready ice immunity only u needed to buy jewelry that had ice resistance on it when it dropped. So offcourse ppl asked major $$$ for it 
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DarkJackal
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Post subject: Posted: Mon Aug 27, 2007 12:48 pm |
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There wasn't immunity ast 60 cap, unless i'm mistaken the effect reduce stats came out witht he alchemy update at the 70 cap.
I don't remember seeing those kinds of stats before then >.>.
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Post subject: Posted: Mon Aug 27, 2007 1:06 pm |
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A nice theory
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Vandango
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Post subject: Posted: Mon Aug 27, 2007 1:14 pm |
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DarkJackal wrote: There wasn't immunity ast 60 cap, unless i'm mistaken the effect reduce stats came out witht he alchemy update at the 70 cap.
I don't remember seeing those kinds of stats before then >.>.
There was i had a 100% Burn reduce ring bak then lvl 1 ofcourse
Npc'ed it xD
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DarkJackal
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Post subject: Posted: Mon Aug 27, 2007 1:17 pm |
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Well pfft, at least there wasn't immunity back then nearly as much anyway, if at all really lol, immune was unheard of before the alchemy update! >.<
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Post subject: Posted: Mon Aug 27, 2007 3:53 pm |
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BakaFish wrote: Nice theory but isn't it really obvious that JM wants to earn money already? By implementing the Premium Mall while keeping the game F2P was their whole tactic.
The actual scam behind the Premium Mall was the bots. JM kept the bots knowingly that they're a big trouble to the few legits that are left and made it nearly impossible for a legit to log into the game.
Afterwards, when everyone was fed up with the situation, they released the Premium which offered some int increase, str incease, luck increase and of course - 24/7 access to the game, without waiting! How nice, you can play only if you pay, if you're very lucky or if you choose to try for a long time.
Seems like the whole story coming up again. They banned bots from all servers (claiming to ban ~1,200 per server while no real population lose was seen) and then they released the .exe update the kept bots away for two weeks. Now they seem to just ignore the problem until people are fed-up with it again and they can scam you for some more money.
Keep buying silk, support more bots 
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Post subject: Posted: Mon Aug 27, 2007 4:08 pm |
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Joymax is a bussiness designed to make money. Most companys produce a game in its entirety and then sells it for one price and never sees the customer again, except maybe for a monthly online subscription fee. Joymax releases bit by bit to keep thier members hooked and continue to pay for it.
As for the ice immunity I think it was a opps on joymaxes part for its bad coding, and after seeing what happened kinda left it like that after they realized that they could charge money for relocation potions. This update joymax was hoping people would switch again, and I know a few who have. You realize how many potions that is for a mastery lvl 80 fire to turn into mastery lvl 80 ice?
When mana shield came out I was like omg pure ints are gonna destroy like an int and tank like an str, this is true but after seeing a job war yesterday I think the buffs the euro cleric gives after lvl 60 heavily out way what the mana shield does to an int. When a glavier(80) and a bow(77) can tank four spears(80) and a glavier(80) just because of the cleric(60) buffs he was giving the thieves, makes me question my china build. (In my opinion, and soley on my opinion.) 
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Post subject: Posted: Mon Aug 27, 2007 4:33 pm |
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60 cap ice bladers were good? lol
not in the 60 cap i was in. ice bladers have always been crap and will always be crap. freezing someone wont ever raise an ice bladers pethetic damage. i take more damage going afk at south gate jangan and having mangyangs beat on me for an hour.
at the 60 cap, only a handfull of people were capped out at 60. they looked awesome. they were worshiped. ppl thought they were living gods. 1 of them happened to be a crappy ice blader and OMG the ice blader legend was born. guess what. if the 60 cap had 1000 capped players, that ice blader would of gotten his ass handed to him so many times that he would be been known as a joke and the term ice blader would never of been mentioned outside of a joke.
ice blader is second to str nuker on the list of useless builds. right up there with 1-1 bow. i find it funny when 1-1 bow ppl get outdamaged and outcritted yet think they are awesome cuz there mp is higher. mp me to death!
Fly's life lessions # 13: ice is for nukers. get over it. let your 60 cap ice day dreams die. i know it hurts. but its for you own good.
ps: this was not aimed at anyone. if i hurt your fweeling im sowwy. ill bake you a cookie.
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