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High damage and pot delay, or lower damage and no delay?
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PostPosted: Tue Aug 28, 2007 9:21 am 
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Vote on. I would rather have lower damage and normal pot delay than it is now.


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Pot delay with high damage

We don't want a MORE unbalanced game do we? :roll:

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I'd rather not die that often

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i rather choose low damage but can kill

rather than high damage but cant kill and they die first...

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Lower delay ftw. No point in uber damage if you die to the first thing to sneak up on you..


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Nice topic btw.

I will definitely choose low dmg with low delay time. So that I can able to kill giant alone with ease and able to kill unique too with alot of spawn surroundings unique, u gotta need more def than dmg here.

Quoted again, and yes for the uniques :D


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lol this is basicly, you want chinese, or euro o.o.

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let me translate the question:

do you prefer chinese or european chars ?:o

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Lower damage and lower pot delay

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DarkJackal wrote:
lol this is basicly, you want chinese, or euro o.o.


No it's not. Some people prefer euro skills, char looks, and a lot of other stuff. But aren't playing because you easily die to green, hell, even blue mobs.


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My vote has gone in for lower damage wit low pot delay :)
But wit eve1 KSIN these days ....... I wuld startin thinkin alternatively :shock:

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Chinese FTW :D garm look way cooler than any other wearings


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A full intl wizard with that life force crap on does enough damage as it is. ANY build can 1 shot them, so they dont even have a chance to pot. If their damage was increased and their delay increased, it would make them even more powerful with literally no consequence *as they are a kill or get killed build*. IMO increasing damage will throw the game out of balance

Same thing applies if we lowered the pot delay and damage. If we lowered pot times and lowered damage, it would make the sword shield warrior even MORE of a tank, with the large defense they have, that ability that increases their defense, etc. They dont really need to do damage, they just need to tank it. Lowering it would make them too strong.


Either way it would suck, i like it the way they have it now. So i vote leave it.


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when do ppl start to understand that euro is party class
it would be easy like hell to play euro char with no pot delay and plazma dmg
and no pot delay + lower dmg = chinese


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id go with Higher damage and high pot delay- which is euro :D

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i would go with high damage, cuz i can just grind on green mobs and still outlvl chinese :P

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I like the real high dmg my wizard does... I'd like her even more if i could buy vigor's from shops :P . Well as long as you have a good warrior and a good cleric you'll be fine. Just have to watch out that there are no champs/giants and pt mobs that you cant kill on the way.


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Of course when you talk about party, there you go, there's the helper whose going to buff you and heal you, so who cares about defend and hp here. But when it's solo, things turn upside-down.


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I rather have higher damage and higher pot delay.....smart people would know why...


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Cleric ftw.

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DeShin wrote:
Of course when you talk about party, there you go, there's the helper whose going to buff you and heal you, so who cares about defend and hp here. But when it's solo, things turn upside-down.


exactly when its SOLO

SOLO = chinese
PARTY = euro

this no matter how you look at it is just a disguised euro or china thread.

STOP MAKING THESE THREADS!
if you make the races the same having races would be pointless,
HAVING CLASSES WOULD BE POINTLESS!!

just give it 2 - 5 months the delay will be 10 seconds.

CHINA = .5 sec pot delay = spam potions = solo


EURO = 15 sec pot delay = no pot spam BUT CLERICS = PARTY!!

china + euro = UBER PWNAGE, GET THIS IN YOUR HEAD!!

so stop all this would you like it this way shiz, OK!

euro = people who want to party most of the tim. people who want to spend about 4 - 7 months (depending on how much you play) to get to lvl 80 with a 1 - 3 gap, in order to support other players in thier guild or union who are like minded

china = people who want to take 7 months with premium to get to lvl 80 then farm 250 - 400k sp, in order to make the perfect 1v1 PvP build

UNDERSTAND!

1 is party
1 is solo

euros CAN SOLO! on mobs 5 - 11 lvls higher than them (YES THEY CAN!)
chinese CAN PARTY! ( BUT ITS A WASTE OF POTS AND TIME UNLESS THE NUMBER OF EUROS IN THE PARTY IS GREATER THAN THE NUMBER OF CHINESE!)

but realy shouldnt, because they where not built to SOLO/PARTY!

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exactly when its SOLO

SOLO = chinese
PARTY = euro

this no matter how you look at it is just a disguised euro or china thread.

STOP MAKING THESE THREADS!
if you make the races the same having races would be pointless,
HAVING CLASSES WOULD BE POINTLESS!!

just give it 2 - 5 months the delay will be 10 seconds.

CHINA = .5 sec pot delay = spam potions = solo


EURO = 15 sec pot delay = no pot spam BUT CLERICS = PARTY!!

china + euro = UBER PWNAGE, GET THIS IN YOUR HEAD!!

so stop all this would you like it this way shiz, OK!

euro = people who want to party most of the tim. people who want to spend about 4 - 7 months (depending on how much you play) to get to lvl 80 with a 1 - 3 gap, in order to support other players in thier guild or union who are like minded

china = people who want to take 7 months with premium to get to lvl 80 then farm 250 - 400k sp, in order to make the perfect 1v1 PvP build

UNDERSTAND!

1 is party
1 is solo

euros CAN SOLO! on mobs 5 - 11 lvls higher than them (YES THEY CAN!)
chinese CAN PARTY! ( BUT ITS A WASTE OF POTS AND TIME UNLESS THE NUMBER OF EUROS IN THE PARTY IS GREATER THAN THE NUMBER OF CHINESE!)

but realy shouldnt, because they where not built to SOLO/PARTY!

Lol don't make me laugh

First of all, Im the NOT the threadstarter. Please even open up your brain before shooting at people without reason.

Lol there's nothing called "china + euro" thing, is either you play chinese or you play euro.

Yea even before the euro patch, I already know that euro are meant to be party, so? Does it create problem of choosing the character that I want?

Oh so you said euro can solo. Well I really want to see a wizard solo a giant without the help of any of the people around. In what way you said euro can solo? where's your proof? where's your ideas? PLS even have it before shooting at people.

Lol to conclude for you, just in case you don't bother to think it again,

Euro = party-based leveling character.
Chinese = solo-based leveling character.

And making this post like that make you feel disgrace, then leave it.

If you can't take it the way we are discussing here, helping people here, I suggest you leave this thread, it's even better. Lol LMAO


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DeShin wrote:
Barotix wrote:
exactly when its SOLO

SOLO = chinese
PARTY = euro

this no matter how you look at it is just a disguised euro or china thread.

STOP MAKING THESE THREADS!
if you make the races the same having races would be pointless,
HAVING CLASSES WOULD BE POINTLESS!!

just give it 2 - 5 months the delay will be 10 seconds.

CHINA = .5 sec pot delay = spam potions = solo


EURO = 15 sec pot delay = no pot spam BUT CLERICS = PARTY!!

china + euro = UBER PWNAGE, GET THIS IN YOUR HEAD!!

so stop all this would you like it this way shiz, OK!

euro = people who want to party most of the tim. people who want to spend about 4 - 7 months (depending on how much you play) to get to lvl 80 with a 1 - 3 gap, in order to support other players in thier guild or union who are like minded

china = people who want to take 7 months with premium to get to lvl 80 then farm 250 - 400k sp, in order to make the perfect 1v1 PvP build

UNDERSTAND!

1 is party
1 is solo

euros CAN SOLO! on mobs 5 - 11 lvls higher than them (YES THEY CAN!)
chinese CAN PARTY! ( BUT ITS A WASTE OF POTS AND TIME UNLESS THE NUMBER OF EUROS IN THE PARTY IS GREATER THAN THE NUMBER OF CHINESE!)

but realy shouldnt, because they where not built to SOLO/PARTY!

Lol don't make me laugh

First of all, Im the NOT the threadstarter. Please even open up your brain before shooting at people without reason.

Lol there's nothing called "china + euro" thing, is either you play chinese or you play euro.

Yea even before the euro patch, I already know that euro are meant to be party, so? Does it create problem of choosing the character that I want?

Oh so you said euro can solo. Well I really want to see a wizard solo a giant without the help of any of the people around. In what way you said euro can solo? where's your proof? where's your ideas? PLS even have it before shooting at people.

Lol to conclude for you, just in case you don't bother to think it again,

Euro = party-based leveling character.
Chinese = solo-based leveling character.

And making this post like that make you feel disgrace, then leave it.

If you can't take it the way we are discussing here, helping people here, I suggest you leave this thread, it's even better. Lol LMAO

I think he meant a party with both europeans and chinese are the best things that can happen.

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I rather help on the threadstarter than continue the arguments. :x


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Intresting.. i would rather have the higher dmg becuase of clerics giving me hp bonus :) So i could kill the other person faster then i would die.

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