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 Post subject: Silly JM...
PostPosted: Tue Aug 28, 2007 12:23 pm 
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One thing that really seems out of order, is how they charge more silk for the astral which is at a higher degree :?

Seems ultra stupid... i mean 8th degree already costs 46 silk for one.
9th degree will cost us 52 silk and 10th degree 62 silk. Now the general formula has been roughly 1.2-1.9. So that means...

11th degree: 74 silk.
12th degree: 89 silk.

Now who is going to pay 8.9usd per 12th degree astral???? Considering you might fail 3-5 before you even get +5 :banghead:

I think it would make more sense having all astral and immortal ONE price of something like 15 silk each (no more than 20 silk). Rather than charging an item which can only be used once and gone... it would be better if the astral infact kept the + at the same level at least (ie. if you had +7 and failed, it would still remain +7, rather than going down to +4. Seems stupid, especially if your attempting +9 and fail... trying to get back to +7/+8 would be a pain and expensive for some.

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Now who is going to pay 8.9usd per 12th degree astral???? Considering you might fail 3-5 before you even get +5 :banghead:


Someone wealthy and/or spoiled :)

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sooo true, but people will still buy them.

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**sigh**

Someone should just close SRO down for good... in the long run we would all be happy :)

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Silly JM? Title should be 'Financially Clued JM'.

They know people will pay these prices, so why lower them?

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prices for immortal/astral are crazy.. i will never buy it


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Peo´ple will buy anything that lets them become permanently more powerful.

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10x8=80 for 10 astrals=no fking way im payin for tht

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Erm dont ksro have an item which prevents there items from dropping below +6 like we have a astral which prevents us from dropping below +4. Well i guess when the time does come and the prices are aroudn that much then ccfers win.

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Find a lucky person and he +5s your shit in 5-20 Elix, no Astral ... so did I ... saves money and time :P

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whats wrong with it? they made this game in order to gain profit.... its business...... if u dont like it there is alot of other games to play anyway.... but O.M.G is all i can say on the probable price of astral :shock: :shock:

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that is the time when people are going to buy gold and not silk, why buy silk for a chance to get + when u can buy gold and then buy your ed items from some rich kid. I mean, joymax profits and even supports gold buying anyways...its just easier on our pockets to do it that way.

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AUST_ZoRrO wrote:

I think it would make more sense having all astral and immortal ONE price of something like 15 silk each (no more than 20 silk). Rather than charging an item which can only be used once and gone... it would be better if the astral infact kept the + at the same level at least (ie. if you had +7 and failed, it would still remain +7, rather than going down to +4. Seems stupid, especially if your attempting +9 and fail... trying to get back to +7/+8 would be a pain and expensive for some.


+100 weapons anyone?

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AUST_ZoRrO wrote:
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Someone should just close SRO down for good... in the long run we would all be happy :)


no, you should just stop playing. its not JM's fault your not happy. Its your fault for spending too much time thinking about this.

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AUST_ZoRrO wrote:
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Someone should just close SRO down for good... in the long run we would all be happy :)


i would be sad and PISSED IF THEY CLOSE DOWN b4 I GET TO TEST ISLAM ON CSRO ,

other than that plz dont wish evil against JM

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I have 9 8th degree astrals :D


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Because u feed them. The more u buy the more u make them think their tactic to make money is a success :D

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though they would sell more if they were cheaper, selll more cheaper, they are free to make, if they were at a reasonable cost, they would sell more and by selling more make more money then selling less higher, i think people would be more inticed to buy, but i could be wrong, just my theory of how to increase profit, because as he said 8 bucks for 1 astral is not worth it

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ok..if you want economic theory in here, in all depends on what kind of item astrals and immortals are. Are they elastic or inelastic items, which means are they luxury items, or are they necessary for survival, respectively. With a price increase the profit off elastic items will decrease because people will buy less, but the profit will increase off an inelastic item because people must buy it no matter what. So, to increase profit on an elastic item you should decrease the price, and to increase profit for an inelastic item you should increase the price.

Now then, is astral and immortal elastic or inelastic. Based on current standings i would say they're pretty inelastic for some ppl.

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OK, lets analyze it this way.

Market rate of gold-selling companies hovers around $50 per 100mill gold. So $4.6(price of 1xD8 astral) would be worth about 9.2mill gold.

Weapon elix+powder costs roughly 200+50=250K gold per shot.

So with 9.2mill gold, you are good for 9.2/0.25=36.8 shots. And that is on the low side because i inflated the weap elix+powder costs.

Astrals only keep your item at +4. Think abt it, you cannot get +4 even ONCE within 36-40 shots with lucky powder?

So? still thinking of buying astrals?


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AUST_ZoRrO wrote:
it would be better if the astral infact kept the + at the same level at least (ie. if you had +7 and failed, it would still remain +7



Do you actually have a brain inside of that head of yours? Now this is a justified flame. Think about it. If someone gets hold of a Credit card using CCF, they could rack up a few hundred dollars in astrals. Then they would + their weapons to w/e + they want it to be, because if it fails it doesn't drop the + value. It would make it too dam easy to get items +'d.


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