Random Disconnects Related to Premium?

realfoxboy · **Joined:** Mar 2007 **Posts:** 751 **Location:**

Can it be that random dc's are somehow related to premium users joining the server when its full?

like kicking a random non-premium player for the premium user who wants to join.

Because i can't imagine how they would be able to keep the server capactiy not from being exceeded with premium users who want to join.

i don't know if this was discussed, search didn't find anything.

Carnophage · **Joined:** May 2007 **Posts:** 410 **Location:**

I don't have premium and i don't have more dc's then before.

realfoxboy · **Joined:** Mar 2007 **Posts:** 751 **Location:**

Carnophage wrote:

I don't have premium and i don't have more dc's then before.

it could be random. 2999/3000 (or 2499/2500) chance for you not getting kicked.

Carnophage · **Joined:** May 2007 **Posts:** 410 **Location:**

Well yes it could be, but would that even be noticable with the chance to get a disconnect allready?

Midori · **Joined:** Mar 2007 **Posts:** 3425 **Location:**

it goes over the erver cap (not by much though)

aqnd it's been pointed out that people are getting dc'd since the premium came out

realfoxboy · **Joined:** Mar 2007 **Posts:** 751 **Location:**

X-Lax wrote:

it goes over the erver cap (not by much though)

aqnd it's been pointed out that people are getting dc'd since the premium came out

yes but on the server list thingie, the max player who exceeded server capacity were 2. couldn't be that few.

Aiyas · **Posted:** Sat Sep 15, 2007 11:17 pm

realfoxboy wrote:

Can it be that random dc's are somehow related to premium users joining the server when its full?

like kicking a random non-premium player for the premium user who wants to join.

Because i can't imagine how they would be able to keep the server capactiy not from being exceeded with premium users who want to join.

i don't know if this was discussed, search didn't find anything.

It's my understanding(and I could be wrong) that if a premium user wants to log into a full server, then they get in without someone being kicked(the result being you get a server population of 3001/3000, for example.)

So I would say that the answer to your question is no.

realfoxboy · **Joined:** Mar 2007 **Posts:** 751 **Location:**

Aiyas wrote:

So I would say that the answer to your question is no.

But i really think there is more then 1 premium user who logs in to the game (for a certain time interval) and i don't think that the usual disconnecting rate is higher then the login rate, so the server must be easily overloaded

Carnophage · **Joined:** May 2007 **Posts:** 410 **Location:**

Even if it was yes i don't really care, cause i don't have premium anymore and i'm not having problems with dc's

They should just kick out all the freeloaders, would be a smaller better controlable community aswell

Itonami · **Joined:** Mar 2007 **Posts:** 3182 **Location:**

I think it comes in spikes.. myself and friends that have a premium get dc more then non-premiums for a while, then we get dc less than the non-prems for a while.

realfoxboy · **Joined:** Mar 2007 **Posts:** 751 **Location:**

Itonami wrote:

I think it comes in spikes.. myself and friends that have a premium get dc more then non-premiums for a while, then we get dc less than the non-prems for a while.

So they could even kick premium users for other premium player to join

i'm just speculating. As i said before, i can't imagine how they would be able to control server capacity otherwise.

Carnophage · **Joined:** May 2007 **Posts:** 410 **Location:**

realfoxboy wrote:

Itonami wrote:

I think it comes in spikes.. myself and friends that have a premium get dc more then non-premiums for a while, then we get dc less than the non-prems for a while.

So they could even kick premium users for other premium player to join

i'm just speculating. As i said before, i can't imagine how they would be able to control server capacity otherwise.

For that you would have to have statistics of how many players log in and out at the peak times and how many of them are premium users.

If the biggest part of the premium users is allready in and enough non premium users disconnect themselves there is no problem. Except for not being able to log in

realfoxboy · **Joined:** Mar 2007 **Posts:** 751 **Location:**

as i said, i'm just speculating. But it makes you think, after the increasing disconnects after euro.

Carnophage · **Joined:** May 2007 **Posts:** 410 **Location:**

realfoxboy wrote:

as i said, i'm just speculating. But it makes you think, after the increasing disconnects after euro.

Euro increase of disconnects has more to do with the buggyness if you ask me.

Logging in without premium was harder before the euro update.

DildoGoblin · **Joined:** Jul 2007 **Posts:** 365 **Location:**

I use to get DC a lot. Since I bought premium though, I have not DC'ed for a long time.

XemnasXD · **Posted:** Sun Sep 16, 2007 12:14 am

servers cannot....i repeat cannot go over their limit.....if its possible for a server to be 3001/3000 than that means its possible for a server to be 4000/3000 and i think we all know thats not possible otherwise we'd be getting alot less lag and we wouldn't even have the screens that say "easy" "crowded"
so imo YES PT tickets kick users when the server is full so they can log in. And no i don't think the kick is targeted at none PT users i think its just a random kick.

Carnophage · **Joined:** May 2007 **Posts:** 410 **Location:**

XemnasXD wrote:

servers cannot....i repeat cannot go over their limit.....if its possible for a server to be 3001/3000 than that means its possible for a server to be 4000/3000 and i think we all know thats not possible otherwise we'd be getting alot less lag and we wouldn't even have the screens that say "easy" "crowded"
so imo YES PT tickets kick users when the server is full so they can log in. And no i don't think the kick is targeted at none PT users i think its just a random kick.

Unless the capacity has been limited to 3000 software wise. There have been times that the game lagged a lot worse everywhere u went. You couldn't even grind at that time cause of the lag.

realfoxboy · **Joined:** Mar 2007 **Posts:** 751 **Location:**

Carnophage wrote:

XemnasXD wrote:

servers cannot....i repeat cannot go over their limit.....if its possible for a server to be 3001/3000 than that means its possible for a server to be 4000/3000 and i think we all know thats not possible otherwise we'd be getting alot less lag and we wouldn't even have the screens that say "easy" "crowded"
so imo YES PT tickets kick users when the server is full so they can log in. And no i don't think the kick is targeted at none PT users i think its just a random kick.

Unless the capacity has been limited to 3000 software wise. There have been times that the game lagged a lot worse everywhere u went. You couldn't even grind at that time cause of the lag.

Lag is not only caused by server fullness.

XemnasXD · **Posted:** Sun Sep 16, 2007 12:41 am

realfoxboy wrote:

Carnophage wrote:

XemnasXD wrote:

servers cannot....i repeat cannot go over their limit.....if its possible for a server to be 3001/3000 than that means its possible for a server to be 4000/3000 and i think we all know thats not possible otherwise we'd be getting alot less lag and we wouldn't even have the screens that say "easy" "crowded"
so imo YES PT tickets kick users when the server is full so they can log in. And no i don't think the kick is targeted at none PT users i think its just a random kick.

Unless the capacity has been limited to 3000 software wise. There have been times that the game lagged a lot worse everywhere u went. You couldn't even grind at that time cause of the lag.

Lag is not only caused by server fullness.

its a contributing factor....a large one and im not confusing lag (internet related) to slowdown (computer related)....the less fulla server is the less lag there will be and consequently the less slowdown....thats my theory anyway

nphillip · **Joined:** Jul 2007 **Posts:** 1012 **Location:**

realfoxboy wrote:

Can it be that random dc's are somehow related to premium users joining the server when its full?

like kicking a random non-premium player for the premium user who wants to join.

Because i can't imagine how they would be able to keep the server capactiy not from being exceeded with premium users who want to join.

i don't know if this was discussed, search didn't find anything.

+1
i believe so, no matter what! Joymax WILL have to let a prem user on otherwise they could get sued o_o

without d/c`ing someone to let him in .. what could they do?

Silver0 · **Posted:** Sun Sep 16, 2007 12:42 am

i havent dc but now that u say it ill guess ill buy pt for that str

Carnophage · **Joined:** May 2007 **Posts:** 410 **Location:**

realfoxboy wrote:

Lag is not only caused by server fullness.

No i know that, but the lag occurred at the same times it was suddenly easy to log in at peak times after an update. And the next update it was hard to log in again and the lag was gone.

I mean if you join now and are in taklamakan or some other grind spot the lag is not as bad that you cannot grind.

realfoxboy · **Joined:** Mar 2007 **Posts:** 751 **Location:**

Carnophage wrote:

realfoxboy wrote:

Lag is not only caused by server fullness.

No i know that, but the lag occurred at the same times it was suddenly easy to log in at peak times after an update. And the next update it was hard to log in again and the lag was gone.

I mean if you join now and are in taklamakan or some other grind spot the lag is not as bad that you cannot grind.

it actually gets unplayable for me sometimes (at niya snipers, with not too many ppl around)

shoto · **Joined:** Oct 2006 **Posts:** 1459 **Location:**

i thought they reserved some slots for premium...

maybe after that slots are filled it starts dc'ing people
its pretty random though sometimes i dc'ed when i had a premium

Matrixman__ · **Joined:** Mar 2007 **Posts:** 773 **Location:**

this has been discussed in about 1000 threads before this...please stop posting this crap everytime you get DC'd 2 or 3 times in a day people

-Evan · **Posted:** Sun Sep 16, 2007 6:16 am

Crappy PC + Unstable Connection = Don't Play SRO/Don't whine about DC and Lag

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