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 Post subject: Rogue vs Blade
PostPosted: Sat Sep 15, 2007 1:22 pm 
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Its true that rogues wins vs bladers, but ive never seen high lvl players fighting with tham with my own eyes.Maybe someone knows some links where i could see it?Or just show it in Odin server for me? :D


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mirror wrote:
Its true that rogues wins vs bladers, but ive never seen high lvl players fighting with tham with my own eyes.Maybe someone knows some links where i could see it?Or just show it in Odin server for me? :D


when remember it right, i saw a dagger rogue fight younghee (77 blader afaik) on odin, i think the rogue killed him, but they attacked him 2on1.


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it solely depends who attacks first...obviously rogue in most cases would win

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I've killed rogues higher lvl than me and imma blader =]

Sometimes the steath and hit me from behind and might crit me hard (9k is the highest crit on me) but I just kd and stab stab stab and moslt of the time they're dead because of their pot delay =]

I think 1vs1 against a 2h warrior is harder =[

They hurt sooooo bad with the crit


Yes, but being able to crit that hard would probably mean they are sacrificing hp / def using their buff. Hence them being easy to kill :>

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Xia_Hou_Dun wrote:
it solely depends who attacks first...obviously rogue in most cases would win

IMO if nobody makes mistackes always wins the one who starts first.But im talking about fair 1vs1 pvp.This thing should realy be tested.If blader wears protector its absolutely 50%/50%


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Hershey wrote:
I've killed rogues higher lvl than me and imma blader =]

Sometimes the steath and hit me from behind and might crit me hard (9k is the highest crit on me) but I just kd and stab stab stab and moslt of the time they're dead because of their pot delay =]

I think 1vs1 against a 2h warrior is harder =[

They hurt sooooo bad with the crit

That's why I'm working on one. It's Lv61 at the moment. :D

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Im not scared of warriors at all if theyre not more than 3lvls higher than me and dont have +++++ armor or weaps.


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Try a crossbow vs a blader lol, they would get owned so badly with the Knockdown, and knockback :P

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In that case i would try to do a phantom walk KD and stab,stab,stab.But it sounds hardly cuz i should be very very lucky and it also depends on who starts first. :twisted:


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mirror wrote:
Im not scared of warriors at all if theyre not more than 3lvls higher than me and dont have +++++ armor or weaps.


but you have + equipment right?


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mirror wrote:
Im not scared of warriors at all if theyre not more than 3lvls higher than me and dont have +++++ armor or weaps.


but you have + equipment right?


Im a not very high lvl cuz i dont play a lot, but im lookin foward.So just please dont call me a noob for that.And usually I have +2blade and all blue armor with few +1 items


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mirror wrote:
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mirror wrote:
Im not scared of warriors at all if theyre not more than 3lvls higher than me and dont have +++++ armor or weaps.


but you have + equipment right?


Im a not very high lvl cuz i dont play a lot, but im lookin foward.So just please dont call me a noob for that.And usually I have +2blade and all blue armor with few +1 items


so it's only "fair" if the warrior has plussed equipment too. that means you should be scared :P


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realfoxboy wrote:
mirror wrote:
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mirror wrote:
Im not scared of warriors at all if theyre not more than 3lvls higher than me and dont have +++++ armor or weaps.


but you have + equipment right?


Im a not very high lvl cuz i dont play a lot, but im lookin foward.So just please dont call me a noob for that.And usually I have +2blade and all blue armor with few +1 items


so it's only "fair" if the warrior has plussed equipment too. that means you should be scared :P

I wanted to say that if he has over +3 or sos weap.cuz its realy easy to get +2 weap.


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If the xbow is smart, he could kill the blader without getting touched by him^^
the big shot range + the knock down&back + the amazing crit, should be easy

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If the xbow is smart, he could kill the blader without getting touched by him^^
the big shot range + the knock down&back + the amazing crit, should be easy

Yea xbow is my worst nightmare. :banghead:


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mirror wrote:
UniQ wrote:
If the xbow is smart, he could kill the blader without getting touched by him^^
the big shot range + the knock down&back + the amazing crit, should be easy

Yea xbow is my worst nightmare. :banghead:


Crossbows are a piece of cake for me, (1H Sword Warrior) even if they start first I have enough time to sprint to them use shield crush and the rest is easy.

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Rogue wins if he's using stealth...Daggers would win on a 1 vs win...i know i can kill any blader my lvl easy before they have a chance to KD

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Lol you'll never really get any unbiased answers because all the bladers will say they pwn rogues and the rogues vice versa.


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Hey how do pure str glaivers in garms do Vs. a rouge?

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Lol you'll never really get any unbiased answers because all the bladers will say they pwn rogues and the rogues vice versa.


true, so heres the real answer.

rogue stealth hits first 2 hit crit dagger crit lvl 24 [100%?]

2, 14k crits blader dead


now 4 blader

blader sees rogue xbow sniping peeps
blader use those dance moves, and those soul cut thingys

meh xbow rogue dead

unbiased enough?

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BuddahBless wrote:
Hey how do pure str glaivers in garms do Vs. a rouge?


now they get killed easily by rogue, i've witnessed that many times


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BuddahBless wrote:
Hey how do pure str glaivers in garms do Vs. a rouge?


they fair well (when they stand over your dead body wait till you respawn then wait 5 second then killing you over and over, simply for fighting like a rogue)

they dont have a shield
therefore they will suffer from heavy crits

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Try a crossbow vs a blader lol, they would get owned so badly with the Knockdown, and knockback :P


yup xbow are good against str build at lvl 50 arogue xbow can kd then kb you 3 times at the max. you might never land a hit on him :)

daggers are different, they depend on a crits

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it solely depends who attacks first...obviously rogue in most cases would win

IMO if nobody makes mistackes always wins the one who starts first.But im talking about fair 1vs1 pvp.This thing should realy be tested.If blader wears protector its absolutely 50%/50%


protector arent 50%/50% they have more mag defense...more like 40% phy 60% mag.

and most bladers wear garment

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listen here is an answer from an experienced rogue...

I dont use dagger desperate and fight with the blader=i die coz of pot delay difference as i hit low and he heals himself fast.

I use Dagger Desperate and fight the blader=he dies coz im 45lvl and a 45lvl blader hits me 400-500 with DD on and i hit him like 1500-1800 and my begining hit 'SCREW' buffed up with stealth dagger does him like 3000-4000 damage and criticals are more so i can 2-3 shot an blader no matter what he does.

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i dont know what kind of shitty bladers you fighting
i am not saying rogue is weak just that low lv snowshield + def buff on blader = no chance for rogue


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listen here is an answer from an experienced rogue...

I dont use dagger desperate and fight with the blader=i die coz of pot delay difference as i hit low and he heals himself fast.

I use Dagger Desperate and fight the blader=he dies coz im 45lvl and a 45lvl blader hits me 400-500 with DD on and i hit him like 1500-1800 and my begining hit 'SCREW' buffed up with stealth dagger does him like 3000-4000 damage and criticals are more so i can 2-3 shot an blader no matter what he does.


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ZiNC wrote:
listen here is an answer from an experienced rogue...

I dont use dagger desperate and fight with the blader=i die coz of pot delay difference as i hit low and he heals himself fast.

I use Dagger Desperate and fight the blader=he dies coz im 45lvl and a 45lvl blader hits me 400-500 with DD on and i hit him like 1500-1800 and my begining hit 'SCREW' buffed up with stealth dagger does him like 3000-4000 damage and criticals are more so i can 2-3 shot an blader no matter what he does.

I seriously doubt the blader does only 400-500. A blader does 400-500 on me after I put on Iron skin >>. Especially if he is farmed, KD, stab, stab and you're probably dead.


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I mean 400-500 with only imbue.his skills are more.but i can kill him fast especially if i use stealth and if the attack i do when exiting stealth is succesfull.because stealth dagger gives you +damage when u do an attack while under stealth status.

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the only blader im remotely afraid fof is an ice blader...but even then i kick their a**

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