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PostPosted: Mon Sep 24, 2007 7:11 pm 
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A:Image B:Image

Why does A have more Parry Ratio then B???????

Can anyone aanswer that?? :D :D

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might have something to do with the 20% parry ratio blue on it :roll:

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REALLY, i tought that the blue like didn't show on the white stats :shock: :P But still, the blue only gives 20% and the other has 66%+

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Matrixman__ wrote:
might have something to do with the 20% parry ratio blue on it :roll:


he means 20% < 66% ~ why is it higher on the 20%

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Math isn't really JoyMax's strong side, they are too busy counting their money.


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Waisha wrote:
Math isn't really JoyMax's strong side, they are too busy counting their money.


Doesn't that involve math...? :P

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20% of the total so if it was 17 on 05 you add 20% of this 17 so let say it go to 19 (0%)


white % is the value it can have so let say this piece can have a normal 17-19 parry bonus well 18 would be 66% of his normal bonus

an item have a white limit and it cant be increased over 100% without using blue stone

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Snudge wrote:
Waisha wrote:
Math isn't really JoyMax's strong side, they are too busy counting their money.


Doesn't that involve math...? :P


you got yourself a stalker Waisha ;)

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The 66% on the white tasset isnt 66% more then the standard.

For example the white tasset would have around 16 parry (i think) at 0%, and 19 at 100% (17 at 33%, 18 at 66%).

However the blue stat parry does mean 20% more then standard.


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Luoma wrote:
Snudge wrote:
Waisha wrote:
Math isn't really JoyMax's strong side, they are too busy counting their money.


Doesn't that involve math...? :P


you got yourself a stalker Waisha ;)


I'm not stalking.. :| Jebus, I can't even make posts nowadays.

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Matrixman__ wrote:
might have something to do with the 20% parry ratio blue on it :roll:


:banghead: :banghead: :banghead: :banghead: :banghead: :banghead:

Omg no rly ¬¬

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dunno man photoshop?coz other ways it cannot be.

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Luoma wrote:
Snudge wrote:
Waisha wrote:
Math isn't really JoyMax's strong side, they are too busy counting their money.


Doesn't that involve math...? :P


you got yourself a stalker Waisha ;)

Yeah, complaining of everything I do. :cry: :cry:
But I'll clarify it for my snudgie:
Most ppl in JM are males. Males can't do two things in the same time. Counting money and working on the item stats are two things. Therefore they suck at math.

That's what I meant.


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The 66% on the white tasset isnt 66% more then the standard.

For example the white tasset would have around 16 parry (i think) at 0%, and 19 at 100% (17 at 33%, 18 at 66%).

However the blue stat parry does mean 20% more then standard.



yeah u explain it betetr then me :P

I think blue apply to the whole white not a ''range'' so if ur white parry is 17 and u hadd a 100% increase blue it,ll turn to 34

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I am not sure why A has more white parry then B surpriseing to see that though.

There are two stones for parry, one is pink and one is green.

I always thought that the parry ratio blue stat is a % that increases your characters overall base parry, ie the number you see when in your character screen.

The white stat as I understand it to be raises the equiments parry which is the "base" number that the blue stat raises.

I never paid attention to the white stat while adding the blue stat. Does this blue stat only raise the white stat? If this is correct, does the same go for attack rating on weapons since it has a white stat as well?

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Glavie's Girl wrote:
I am not sure why A has more white parry then B surpriseing to see that though.

There are two stones for parry, one is pink and one is green.

I always thought that the parry ratio blue stat is a % that increases your characters overall base parry, ie the number you see when in your character screen.

The white stat as I understand it to be raises the equiments parry which is the "base" number that the blue stat raises.

I never paid attention to the white stat while adding the blue stat. Does this blue stat only raise the white stat? If this is correct, does the same go for attack rating on weapons since it has a white stat as well?


Yes, attack rating and parry blues are visible on your weapon/equipment.

If you have a weapon with 100 attack rating white, add 30% attack rating blue you have 130 attack rating white.


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Glavie's Girl wrote:
I am not sure why A has more white parry then B surpriseing to see that though.

There are two stones for parry, one is pink and one is green.

I always thought that the parry ratio blue stat is a % that increases your characters overall base parry, ie the number you see when in your character screen.

The white stat as I understand it to be raises the equiments parry which is the "base" number that the blue stat raises.

I never paid attention to the white stat while adding the blue stat. Does this blue stat only raise the white stat? If this is correct, does the same go for attack rating on weapons since it has a white stat as well?



yep blue raise the white you'll notice when u add a green stone it'll say ur blablabla aprry have changed to 189-> 198

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Fat_Smurf wrote:
Glavie's Girl wrote:
I am not sure why A has more white parry then B surpriseing to see that though.

There are two stones for parry, one is pink and one is green.

I always thought that the parry ratio blue stat is a % that increases your characters overall base parry, ie the number you see when in your character screen.

The white stat as I understand it to be raises the equiments parry which is the "base" number that the blue stat raises.

I never paid attention to the white stat while adding the blue stat. Does this blue stat only raise the white stat? If this is correct, does the same go for attack rating on weapons since it has a white stat as well?



yep blue raise the white you'll notice when u add a green stone it'll say ur blablabla aprry have changed to 189-> 198


I don't think i've ever seen the white stat change in the bottomright chatscreen when applying a magic stone of strikes. It only says something like "Attack rating has changed 10% -> 40%" or something

Trust me, i put a lot of those stones on my previous weapons.


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Hellraider wrote:
Fat_Smurf wrote:
Glavie's Girl wrote:
I am not sure why A has more white parry then B surpriseing to see that though.

There are two stones for parry, one is pink and one is green.

I always thought that the parry ratio blue stat is a % that increases your characters overall base parry, ie the number you see when in your character screen.

The white stat as I understand it to be raises the equiments parry which is the "base" number that the blue stat raises.

I never paid attention to the white stat while adding the blue stat. Does this blue stat only raise the white stat? If this is correct, does the same go for attack rating on weapons since it has a white stat as well?



yep blue raise the white you'll notice when u add a green stone it'll say ur blablabla aprry have changed to 189-> 198


I don't think i've ever seen the white stat change in the bottomright chatscreen when applying a magic stone of strikes. It only says something like "Attack rating has changed 10% -> 40%" or something

Trust me, i put a lot of those stones on my previous weapons.


ur sure? I though it was saying the white stats, hunm havent done alchemy recently I might be wrong :P

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-White % does not equal a percent out of a whole, its a percent of what can be added on from 0%
-The blue % is takes a percent out of the whole.

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The base parry ratio is 16. The most that can be added to it by fixing the white % is 3 more parry. Blue at 20% can add from 3.2 parry to 3.8 parry (game rounds it).

White 16 + (.66*3) = 18
Blue 16 + (.2*16) = 19.2 = 19


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