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PostPosted: Wed Oct 17, 2007 5:40 pm 
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What is everyones opinion on buying gold from websites? I don't think I ever would do that, but what's the difference between spending $10.00 on silk to purchase potions/scrolls/a pet, or going out and spending $10.00 on 20 million gold?

The only difference I see is that buying gold is probably illegal and buying the silk is sponsored by the game and legal.

*shrug*

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you could better delete post before people starts to fight eachother :roll:

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well the main reason people buy gold is to buy elixirs, sos items and many other items that can't be bought by silk

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gold buying is illegal and I will never do it...

but everyone has there choice..if they wanna buy gold, they buy gold...but if they think its wrong they wont

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never bought gold in any game cause I'd rather make my own money and have my own equipment form what i've earn. But I would rather buy gold from a website then buying an astral. astral = 5$ 5$= around 10-15m so around 50-80 elixir. you gotta suck if you cant get it back to +4 lol <_<


but I dont buy astral anyway so meh i,ll keep making my own money :)

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I don't want to start an arguement of any kind. Or start a flame war.

I don't see why it would be illegal. If someone wants to buy 20 million gold so they can get a SOS or SOM item, then why is it so shunned apon?

I have played several other MMO's and sometimes, you HAVE to buy ingame currency in order to actually compete on the market. I know that SRO is very different (i'm new, but from what I see, it is really easy to make a lot of money, really fast). Example: I used to play Lineage 2, and in order to actually compete seriously and survive in the game, you had to at some point purchase in game currency, and if you didn't you were very very gimp, unless someone gave you items for free (which never happened)


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yeah shocker i agree with ya, and when u get capped u'll wanna buy as much as elixirs as u can get, about 120 mil worth of elixirs to +5 your eq, also not to forget u need a fancy sos 8d weap, it would be impossible to save that much money on ur own.

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yeah shocker i agree with ya, and when u get capped u'll wanna buy as much as elixirs as u can get, about 120 mil worth of elixirs to +5 your eq, also not to forget u need a fancy sos 8d weap, it would be impossible to save that much money on ur own.


it is but you gotta know how :)

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I'm still new, so I don't know what "elixers" are or what they do.

I don't even know how to use the alchemy system, so I just put all the stones that I find in my bank. I still have to figure out how to use them and make items.

Probably the wrong forum, and I know it's off topic but does anyone have a link to a guide or a website that I can go to that explains the Alchemy system??

Back on topic. The more I think about it the more I would like to buy gold, but I just don't want to get banned from the game or get shunned by the people I play with. Spending $10.00 on silk for whatever I can get from the item mall, or $10 on 20 million gold....I am 100% sure that the gold will serve a better purpose.


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theshocker wrote:
I'm still new, so I don't know what "elixers" are or what they do.

I don't even know how to use the alchemy system, so I just put all the stones that I find in my bank. I still have to figure out how to use them and make items.

Probably the wrong forum, and I know it's off topic but does anyone have a link to a guide or a website that I can go to that explains the Alchemy system??

Back on topic. The more I think about it the more I would like to buy gold, but I just don't want to get banned from the game or get shunned by the people I play with. Spending $10.00 on silk for whatever I can get from the item mall, or $10 on 20 million gold....I am 100% sure that the gold will serve a better purpose.


http://www.silkroadforums.com/viewtopic ... 489#576489

Several alchemy guides there ^.

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pm me and if your not on my server ill tell you how i made 20mill and bought me and 4 of my real life friends wolfs, all done in a weekend. and none of us (me and my friends) are above lvl 17. and none of us know anyone else in the game. i know 20 mill isnt a lot, but i cant seem to spend it all at my level. i plan to triple it by this weekend. and im just a noob. lol.


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lol it's just plain and simple guys, u want tons of money buy some, nobody will know, it's illegal i know well everything most people do in this game is illegal, the biggest illegal thing in the game is bots, but let's not go there

so if anyone wants to buy money just do nobody will know if you don't tellem, and even if you tell anyone the first question they gonna ask you is "wut site did you buy it from?"lol

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Gold is illegal, but all these gold farmers and spammers in town dont get banned for weeks. It shows how active JoyMax is towards gold farming.

Even still, i think JoyMax sells them gold at set price and they simply re-sell them.

What makes me say that?
I visited one of their sites one day and they showed a "LIVE" server gold amount, which users can buy from. I saw it around 4pm being around 375million in XIAN (from the supgold company i think). Around 6.30pm i saw the xian storage amount for sale at over 830mil... now iam no maths person, but iam almost 99% sure thats impossible (considering these bots are not controlled, they just npc everything - even sosun).

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Buying gold is what made so many problems with this game, goldbots=all the problems in the game, i wish Joymax would have that when you go to make a new account, letting you know it exists,a nd what it does for the game, i think a lot of goldbuying comes from new players who cant compete without buying gold

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x2 on matrixman, i wanted to say the exact same thing :)

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lol it's just plain and simple guys, u want tons of money buy some, nobody will know, it's illegal i know well everything most people do in this game is illegal, the biggest illegal thing in the game is bots, but let's not go there

so if anyone wants to buy money just do nobody will know if you don't tellem, and even if you tell anyone the first question they gonna ask you is "wut site did you buy it from?"lol



I am a realist. I know majority of people above 60 by gold on a regular basis.
But saying no one will know is a joke. Anyone who makes money in game without cheating will know you are full of shit.

I wrote an entire guide on ways to make money. (link is in my signature) There is one key aspect that gives away the gold buyers. Can you guess what it is?

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Gold buying causes spiraling ingame inflation. OK, so for the sake of argument, the average guy at level 80, doing normal stuff can save around 100 mil. That would force a cap on the sale of premium items like SoSun to about double that price. Why? Cause if he makes it more than that, no one will buy it. But then someone buys gold and starts buying out premium items from guy A. Guy B sees that and sells his premium items for more. Someone else buys MORE gold and buys them. Guy C sees that sells his premium items for more. Someone buys even MORE gold. It's a steady upward spiral till a legit player cannot have a premium item unless he finds it himself. A secondary effect is gold bots and gold companies. In repsonse to someone else making real money off the gold industry, they try to join in. That means more gold for less money and more gold bots, speeding up the process of inflation.

Buying gold is a purely selfish act that does nothing but eff up the game.

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Very well posted nightbloom.

Sad thing is, it happens in ALL popular MMO's. Lineage 2, WoW, Everquest, Everquest2, Eve.

The funny thing is, I used to play Lineage 2 ever since closed beta. When the game finally went live, and everyone was starting from level 1. You could slowly see the economy form, and it was nice. Then you see all these adena (in game currency for lineage 2) farmers and you can slowly see the economy slip. Now if you were to start playing the game after so long, with all of these farmers, you are required to spend at least $100 us in order to be able to compete with the end game people that are already established because of the curve in the market. It's actually kind of funny.


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honestly buying gold is for people wiht bad money management or ones who need sun


i honestly havent bought anygold, havent even sold a global for gold, but im lvl 60 fully farmed with d7/d6/d5 sos sets full blues with d7 sos s/s d6 sos sword and tons of low lvl sos/so, plus i stilla hve 100mil gold


you jsut have to know hwo to make money

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hi imp3r10 ^^

On Topic: Buying gold supports the gold companies, who in turn make more gold bots, who in turn fill up 2/3 of every server. So.... buying gold = bad :x

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-_- another gold buying topic.
and look at all the gold buying backers, buncha douches.

now srf is the gold buyers outlet eh?
f this topic and the topic starter AKA future economy destroyer

t-_-

oh and the economy in this game is the WORST ive evr seen, and its because of "noobs" who start the game, see OMG 1 mil for a wolf OMGZ then they buy 10 mil gold because its cheaper than silk. then they f up the economy buying overpriced shiz, some negro says OMGZ he bought that for twice is price, im gonna jack up my price 2 YAY!! now i sell for 2.5 times the price OH YA

keep doing this and you have shiz that cost WAY 2 FING MUCH.
think douche, think :roll: fing gold buyers.

gold bots
player bots
and gold buyers
thier the scourge of this game

and if you dont wanna be shunned then dont buy it DAMN.

im gonna play my s/s now

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-_- another gold buying topic.
and look at all the gold buying backers, buncha douches.

now srf is the gold buyers outlet eh?
f this topic and the topic starter AKA future economy destroyer

t-_-

oh and the economy in this game is the WORST ive evr seen, and its because of "noobs" who start the game, see OMG 1 mil for a wolf OMGZ then they buy 10 mil gold because its cheaper than silk. then they f up the economy buying overpriced shiz, some negro says OMGZ he bought that for twice is price, im gonna jack up my price 2 YAY!! now i sell for 2.5 times the price OH YA

keep doing this and you have shiz that cost WAY 2 FING MUCH.
think douche, think :roll: fing gold buyers.

gold bots
player bots
and gold buyers
thier the scourge of this game

and if you dont wanna be shunned then dont buy it DAMN.

im gonna play my s/s now

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Barotix wrote:
-_- another gold buying topic.
and look at all the gold buying backers, buncha douches.

now srf is the gold buyers outlet eh?
f this topic and the topic starter AKA future economy destroyer

t-_-

oh and the economy in this game is the WORST ive evr seen, and its because of "noobs" who start the game, see OMG 1 mil for a wolf OMGZ then they buy 10 mil gold because its cheaper than silk. then they f up the economy buying overpriced shiz, some negro says OMGZ he bought that for twice is price, im gonna jack up my price 2 YAY!! now i sell for 2.5 times the price OH YA

keep doing this and you have shiz that cost WAY 2 FING MUCH.
think douche, think :roll: fing gold buyers.

gold bots
player bots
and gold buyers
thier the scourge of this game

and if you dont wanna be shunned then dont buy it DAMN.

im gonna play my s/s now

CYAS


You are a complete and utter moron. I asked a simple question on what the community though about this type of behavior. I have yet to buy gold and I probably won't becaue I spent enough money on Lineage 2 (though I got it all back when I quit because I re sold it all to guildies). Your points are correct though, I do agree with you that buying gold messes up the economy. But take a look at other games, it does the same exact thing. And so what if you can pursuade 2 or 3 people from buying gold, there will always be that one other person that buys it to get the 20 million gold item. Sooner or later the economy will bottom out just like it did in lineage 2. You can fight and argue tooth and nail, but the fact is, gold buying is part of the game, and will continue forever. It will probably even get worse if/when this game becomes pay to play.

Go have a drink or two or take a chill pill. You shouldn't get so worked up over a) a video game and b) a simple question.

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theshocker wrote:
What is everyones opinion on buying gold from websites? I don't think I ever would do that, but what's the difference between spending $10.00 on silk to purchase potions/scrolls/a pet, or going out and spending $10.00 on 20 million gold?

The only difference I see is that buying gold is probably illegal and buying the silk is sponsored by the game and legal.

*shrug*

What do you guys think?



thats exactly the reason why i wouldn't buy gold because it is illegal.
buying gold encourages gold bots.... it ruins the economy (inflation), it give unfair advantages. if gold buying and silkbuying was teh same joymax would be the biggest seller of gold.

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Barotix wrote:
-_- another gold buying topic.
and look at all the gold buying backers, buncha douches.

now srf is the gold buyers outlet eh?
f this topic and the topic starter AKA future economy destroyer

t-_-

oh and the economy in this game is the WORST ive evr seen, and its because of "noobs" who start the game, see OMG 1 mil for a wolf OMGZ then they buy 10 mil gold because its cheaper than silk. then they f up the economy buying overpriced shiz, some negro says OMGZ he bought that for twice is price, im gonna jack up my price 2 YAY!! now i sell for 2.5 times the price OH YA

keep doing this and you have shiz that cost WAY 2 FING MUCH.
think douche, think :roll: fing gold buyers.

gold bots
player bots
and gold buyers
thier the scourge of this game

and if you dont wanna be shunned then dont buy it DAMN.

im gonna play my s/s now

CYAS


so black people are bad people? :?


what?
no my friend and i have a bet
i cant use the "N" word for a week
and he cant mack on girls for a week

so i use negro

EDIT:i had my drink (dr pepper) i took my chill pill (dont ask)
and um yeah im gonna keep acting like an ignorant assmonkey j/k

i understand, its just so many topics about gold buying this and gold buying that and when some1 your pwrlvling randomly ask you what the best gold buying site is.. it gets 2 you.

it realy pissed me oof, and i displaced upon YOU, i apologize.
with sro nah the economy wont bottom out, alot of the peeps that play this game have 1 goal

and thats #1 SUN BIATCH
instead of having fun, they rush 2 the cap.. are poor and BUY a shizload of gold.

i make money by pwrlvling and achelmy.
it gets the job done.

the problem is the gold companies that buy gold from chinese gold bots.
if jm did an anti bot thingy every week, then the gold comps would get so ticked off... they will increase thier prices.
say from 10 usd for 100 mil - 50 usd or even 75 usd for 100mil


and the choice between silk and gold wont even be an option :wink:

but its just a pipe dream, after all this sro were talking about

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prices would be 1/3 of what they are now if there was no gold bots.

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I have to go with night and the others who have chimed in with similar. Plain and simple the only reason people have to buy gold is because people buy gold. It does not matter if you did not read about it being illegal. All that means is that you did not read the TOS as it is in there. If there is one thing that is the worst about the game is the gold botters and the buyers that encourage them. making it impossible to log on almost any time of day unless you have premium. I have friends that have bought gold. They are still my friends etc. But you know what I tell them. This is all their fault. Honest truth.

Some people can't stand hard work or honest competition in anything they do. It is just human nature. They can't grok that someone can derive fun from such a game without cheating. My char may be underfarmed and my gear may be under pimped. But it is mine. I have worked for every last SP and every last blue stat etc. And would not have it any other way.. And don't mistake it for some form of jealousy. Just the honest opinion of a player legit since 2005. I still enjoy the game etc. But it upsets me to see what it has become in light of what it could have been. Each server able to hold up to 3000 people but not enough actual players on most times to have any fun. unless you like watching gold bots farm.

So this is the score.
Buy gold if you like as in later levels you will just be an average player. Just never ever have the audacity to complain about town spam, server traffic, or bot infestations. As this is exactly what you are paying for. Complaning would be hypocritical.

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if you have the $$ buy it. I wish i had teh $$ to buy gold i will be all over dem sites

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[You do realize supporting or admitting to buying gold can get you banned on these forums right?]

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