+7 question

ShadowSpell · **Joined:** Jul 2007 **Posts:** 884 **Location:**

for those of you that have made a +7, how much or how many weapons elixirs did it take, and did all of you use astral to make it, I'm thinking about trying to make my 72+5 staff to a +7 without astral and trying to get an idea if I spent say 20 mil on elixirs which on Alps would get me about 115 weapon elixirs what my chances of getting a +7 or +8 would be, i do have premium for the little added luck.

Woohoo · **Joined:** May 2007 **Posts:** 448 **Location:** USA

That's suicide and waste of gold without astral and immortal, you probably end up destroying your weapon.

LordOffWar · **Joined:** Nov 2007 **Posts:** 140

well i had a sos glavie lvl 42+3 i made+5 i got angry cuz my glavie lvl 64 failed on +7 and got destory so i said **** gaymax and i tryed 2 elixirs on my sos glavie lvl 42 and it ended in+7 without immortal or astral

strangelove · **Joined:** Aug 2007 **Posts:** 1255 **Location:** no

You'll destroy it faster than you can make it +7. (If you choose not to add Immortal, that is.)

Fat_Smurf · **Posted:** Mon Dec 03, 2007 5:47 pm

hum use immortal and lucky for +6 and +7. it took around 50-60 weapon elixir to ge tit +7 it was +5. and I used 2 immortal stone, astral is useless since if your aiming for +7 +4 shouldn't be a problem.

mike2007 · **Joined:** Oct 2006 **Posts:** 1672 **Location:**

if u have to ask u dont wanna know

ShadowSpell · **Joined:** Jul 2007 **Posts:** 884 **Location:**

mike2005 wrote:

if u have to ask u dont wanna know

Well thats why im asking, I have only made a +6 before and now with my wizard I want to get to a +7+8 staff, what I might do is take one of my other lvl 72 staffs and try to get it to +7 and if it works then add the blues, the tough part is my current staff is so pimped its not even funny, I have a 72+5 mag attack 80% attack rating on top is 60% and mag reinforce is 80%, then blues are str100% int100%, blocking100%, attack rating 100% durability100%, steady and immortal, so I'm sure your aware how hard it is to build a weapon like that.

Fat_Smurf · **Posted:** Mon Dec 03, 2007 6:16 pm

yo got immortal? add lucky and go +7

Gman22 · **Joined:** Jan 2007 **Posts:** 519 **Location:**

Took me 2 elixirs.

mike2007 · **Joined:** Oct 2006 **Posts:** 1672 **Location:**

soulreapr wrote:

mike2005 wrote:

if u have to ask u dont wanna know

Well thats why im asking, I have only made a +6 before and now with my wizard I want to get to a +7+8 staff, what I might do is take one of my other lvl 72 staffs and try to get it to +7 and if it works then add the blues, the tough part is my current staff is so pimped its not even funny, I have a 72+5 mag attack 80% attack rating on top is 60% and mag reinforce is 80%, then blues are str100% int100%, blocking100%, attack rating 100% durability100%, steady and immortal, so I'm sure your aware how hard it is to build a weapon like that.

ive made 2 +7s so far; a 68 and a 64. the 64 took about 15 elixers and maybe $30-40 for silk. the 68 took easily twice as many elixers and twice as much money for silk. the 72 im makin a +7 right now ive wasted easily 20 elixers so far but at least $80 for silk and its still only +5. keep in mind that i always use astrals unlike some ppl

the_wicked · **Posted:** Mon Dec 03, 2007 7:53 pm

I have a 72+5 crit 12 str 4 int 5 dura 80 attack rating 40% br 100 steady 1 blade...nice whites too. I wana go for +7 but immortal is so dammed expensive =_= 5$ for one? screw it, ill live with +5.

ShadowSpell · **Joined:** Jul 2007 **Posts:** 884 **Location:**

well i have a drop staff I bought a few weeks back that has immortal 3 times on it and im going to see if I can get it to +7 +8, when i do I'll let you guys know how many elixirs I spent. +8 i'm guessing 200

heroo · **Joined:** Sep 2006 **Posts:** 6618 **Location:**

immortal is a must have for +7.

lucky is your choice.

astral is a big NO.

___ONLY___ · **Joined:** Aug 2007 **Posts:** 344 **Location:**

i made a fresh 72 spear drop +5 with 5 elixirs once

TwIsTeD69 · **Joined:** Sep 2007 **Posts:** 289 **Location:**

I've used around 400 elixirs just to +5 my sos lvl 64 blade w/o astral and it's still not +5. :banghead:

heroo · **Joined:** Sep 2006 **Posts:** 6618 **Location:**

TwIsTeD69 wrote:

I've used around 400 elixirs just to +5 my sos lvl 64 blade w/o astral and it's still not +5. :banghead:

rofl pwned, i made my lvl 32 SOm glaivie 3 times +5 and 1 time +6 , using only 110 elixers or so.

PileOfMush · **Joined:** Jun 2007 **Posts:** 456 **Location:**

heroo wrote:

immortal is a must have for +7.

lucky is your choice.

astral is a big NO.

Also, consider this... if you can't get it to +5 without blowing a fortune in elixirs on it... you'll never get it to 7. Get another weapon and start over. Every item has a certain amount of unknown luck you can only discover painfully by trying elixir after elixir.

Immortals and steady can keep your weapon from breaking, so they're a must-have.

If you're going to use lucky on it, first get it to 5 (or maybe even 6 if luck stones are in short supply or too expensive for you). But don't add luck on a +0 weapon and start from there. You might lose it before you even get to 5.

Endou · **Joined:** Jan 2007 **Posts:** 90 **Location:**

I've made two +7 spears. First was from +4 up. Used astral + immo + steady

The second +7 i made was a few days ago. From +5 up. Only immortal and steady. They both are MUSTS. Astral really is optional, or if you got the $$$

=] It's all random luck, few weeks ago I had +6 shield, tried 7, and it broke =D had no immortal lols.

anhkevin · **Posted:** Tue Dec 04, 2007 7:37 am

let see..i have wasted over 300m on weapon elixir and luck stones. over $300 on immortal and astral....my weapon 64 sun is still at +5. I got angry and transfer my weapon to a lvl8 stall chara plusing it without astral or luck stones. Got it to +7 in 20 elixir.

peex3 · **Joined:** Dec 2007 **Posts:** 5

My guild mate bought yesterday a +5 glaive and went straight to +0 then in one go with lucky stone +0->+7. I wonder why im never that lucky :banghead:

0nix · **Joined:** Nov 2007 **Posts:** 342 **Location:**

Gman22 wrote:

Took me 2 elixirs.

yeah yeah..

took me about 25+ elixirs.

ryan1166 · **Posted:** Sat Dec 08, 2007 1:44 am

Well i had som Lv52+4 shield, Got it to +7 with Imo+steady+astral
took me alot of elixirs.. 26 I think.. :roll:

torch69 · **Joined:** Jun 2007 **Posts:** 87

me n friends have spent at least 300 elixirs on a spear and several millions. We have gotten it three times to +5 and one to +6....weve finally decided to stop and wait for cap lol....Its at five now but for a long time it wouldnt even go past +3....alchemy is such a beatch. There is no trick to it just probability. I guess to answer the question....always use immortal, steady and lucky if you can but it doesent guarantee anything.

shoto · **Joined:** Oct 2006 **Posts:** 1459 **Location:**

i have exactly +7'ed 3 weapons w/o immortal

i have tried +7'ing about 12 weapons, the rest have either failed or been destroyed 50% chance

Good_Apollo · **Joined:** Oct 2007 **Posts:** 28 **Location:**

i bought my glavie almost full 100% blues early 80 cap with decent whites and immortal 1.. got a astral from a friend and only needed 2 elixers/lucky pwder.

ownt

Heie · **Joined:** Jan 2007 **Posts:** 823 **Location:**

dont want to make a new topic so i'll ask here as well

i bought 72+4 glaive crit 2 phy 52% for 7 mil

got the crit to 7 in two tries (which i can live with)

+5 in one try

str 5 in one try

the int that was on int (2->5) one try

dura 120(100%) one try

atk rating failed 3 times but when it worked went to 40%(100%)

and br ratio 32 % only tried once

IMO it seems like a lucky glaive

im also debating whether to go for +7

i will most likely get an immortal, lucky and steady. (screw astral >_>)

oh and this all happen with no premium

thoughts..comments.. anyone?

Penguin13 · **Joined:** Apr 2006 **Posts:** 940 **Location:**

Hmm.. I, personally, have never legitly made a +7 (meaning from low + to 7, with or without astral), but depending on the luck of the item itself, it will be either so easy, a hobo could do it, or so difficult, that not even jesus himself could get it past +6.

Heie, just try a few times to go for +5 or higher.. if it doesn't take.. then just splurge on astrals. You saved a BUNCH of money on that glaive anyway.

EpicBaek · **Joined:** Oct 2007 **Posts:** 15 **Location:**

Gman22 wrote:

Took me 2 elixirs.

Same here, had bought me astral and immortal..

But when your sometimes lucky you wont need it

The Phenomenon Nay · **Joined:** Oct 2007 **Posts:** 34

u foolz dnt kno how to make a +7 without astrals, if u hav tried makin a +7 be4 u would kno that astrals make it worse 90% of the time (just a normal judgin %) the trick is, dnt use weapon elixrs all the time, only on weapons, and dnt try to +7 all in the same time, take your time, only use astrals in major things that u cant loose at all like ur 64 sun or somthing ... imortal is important

bigmachini · **Joined:** Oct 2006 **Posts:** 222 **Location:**

soulreapr wrote:

for those of you that have made a +7, how much or how many weapons elixirs did it take, and did all of you use astral to make it, I'm thinking about trying to make my 72+5 staff to a +7 without astral and trying to get an idea if I spent say 20 mil on elixirs which on Alps would get me about 115 weapon elixirs what my chances of getting a +7 or +8 would be, i do have premium for the little added luck.

you dont even want to know its a matter of luck maybe on day the gm will be on your side and let you +7 it took me about 7 months to get my +7

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