OMG i hate alchemy

Xbox_Live_ · **Joined:** Dec 2007 **Posts:** 68 **Location:** JANGAN!

well I have a lvl 52 sos +4 spear, and iv never done alchemy so i was like hey! iv seen all the ppl at srf get +5 np so maybe i can do it, so iv read that you have a better chance getting to +5 without lucky powder, so here it goes, i pressed fuse, my butt cheecks tightend up, i open my eyes and its 0.... im like no big deal... ill just use my 40 wep elexors on it, by the time i was all out of wep elexors my spear is +3.... im never doing alchemy again, and is it true u have a better chance to get +5 without powder... cuz right now i feel like one of those **** that hangs out in book a million and plays dungons of dragons all day... :cry:

so at the end, i used 40 wep elexors to de + my spear, i feel like casterating my self! :banghead:

mmellu · **Joined:** May 2007 **Posts:** 837 **Location:**

I have so bad LUCK i cant even make +3!!!

Xbox_Live_ · **Joined:** Dec 2007 **Posts:** 68 **Location:** JANGAN!

yeah i lost 5 wep elexors in a row with lucky powder to make it +2, its the most frustrating thing iv ever been through, besides a broken ankle

Inuyasha584 · **Joined:** Jun 2007 **Posts:** 1491 **Location:**

so its better to not use lucky powder?

xKingpinx · **Joined:** Aug 2007 **Posts:** 2153 **Location:**

ya ....its pretty fcked up...i made a spear from +5>+7 without lucky immortal or astral...but i failed like 50 times on getting a shield up to +3 then failing..once +4

Xbox_Live_ · **Joined:** Dec 2007 **Posts:** 68 **Location:** JANGAN!

Inuyasha584 wrote:

so its better to not use lucky powder?

dunno, i was just thinking its better to not use it when its +4 going for +5, but im just never gonna do it again, i was like.... yeah im probly gonna get it to +9 first time cuz im the man... i wasted like 13mil

mafa · **Joined:** Jul 2006 **Posts:** 217 **Location:**

Dont we all ?

I didnt really have room in my storage for that shield, so i used my 4 30% agility stones on it.

and yes, it is zoom hack, its a bot free client with zoom hack, no dc and no swear filter.

Xbox_Live_ · **Joined:** Dec 2007 **Posts:** 68 **Location:** JANGAN!

mafa thanks for just rubbing that shit in my face, i feel much better now

mafa · **Joined:** Jul 2006 **Posts:** 217 **Location:**

Before and after screen shots

Im sorry but thats all i can post for now, i cant take the pain. I actually destroyed 3 72+6 staffs before i gave up with that project.

mmellu · **Joined:** May 2007 **Posts:** 837 **Location:**

mafa wrote:

Dont we all ?

I didnt really have room in my storage for that shield, so i used my 4 30% agility stones on it.

and yes, it is zoom hack, its a bot free client with zoom hack, no dc and no swear filter.

OOh Finland ppl. :]

Terve Lolz :>

Crumpets · **Joined:** Aug 2006 **Posts:** 7800 **Location:**

LoL, whats with al lthese theories? Turn around / No powder / Fail an item etc etc .. It's all just Farking luck.

You don't pinch your nipple and spin around when you throw a dice and hope for a 6 DO YOU?

Best way to + an item? TAKE A CHANCE.

_Angels · **Joined:** Nov 2007 **Posts:** 707 **Location:**

damm some ppl are born with luck D:
im to scared to make my wpn +6 >.< cuz it doesnt has any astral lol
my goal is to have a +7 someday D:
tried +6 two times now failed one time=/ first one succeed but i wanted to go +7 lolxD

mafa · **Joined:** Jul 2006 **Posts:** 217 **Location:**

Crumpets wrote:

LoL, whats with al lthese theories? Turn around / No powder / Fail an item etc etc .. It's all just Farking luck.

You don't pinch your nipple and spin around when you throw a dice and hope for a 6 DO YOU?

Best way to + an item? TAKE A CHANCE.

We all know these tricks dont really work, but it sure makes it way more fun.
I rather run araund jangan 3 times everytime im going for +7 than just click fuse and hope best.

@mmellu terve

RogueKiller · **Joined:** Jan 2008 **Posts:** 1893 **Location:**

i have failed on +1 with lucky powder multiple times :oops:

tedtwilliger · **Posted:** Tue Feb 12, 2008 11:51 am

I find it quite funny that people are actually using apples theory yet complaining when it fails.

Think logically, why would luck powders exist if they didn't have some luck modifying effect?

mafa · **Joined:** Jul 2006 **Posts:** 217 **Location:**

tedtwilliger wrote:

I find it quite funny that people are actually using apples theory yet complaining when it fails.

Think logically, why would luck powders exist if they didn't have some luck modifying effect?

I agree, IMO that theory is one big fail.

somenoob · **Joined:** Jun 2007 **Posts:** 100 **Location:**

mafa wrote:

tedtwilliger wrote:

I find it quite funny that people are actually using apples theory yet complaining when it fails.

Think logically, why would luck powders exist if they didn't have some luck modifying effect?

I agree, IMO that theory is one big fail.

pff.
Disagree with you both, either I'm one lucky sob or apples theory does work:

http://files.filefront.com/noluckywmv/; ... einfo.html

yes, some items failed a few times, but overall it is around an 80% success rate for me.
+4 --> +5 without lucky powders ftw!

mafa · **Joined:** Jul 2006 **Posts:** 217 **Location:**

somenoob wrote:

mafa wrote:

tedtwilliger wrote:

I find it quite funny that people are actually using apples theory yet complaining when it fails.

Think logically, why would luck powders exist if they didn't have some luck modifying effect?

I agree, IMO that theory is one big fail.

pff.
Disagree with you both, either I'm one lucky sob or apples theory does work:

http://files.filefront.com/noluckywmv/; ... einfo.html

yes, some items failed a few times, but overall it is around an 80% success rate for me.
+4 --> +5 without lucky powders ftw!

If thats a vide, upload it on youtube or stage6, people dont like downloading.

somenoob · **Joined:** Jun 2007 **Posts:** 100 **Location:**

don't have an account on either, it's basically just a video of +4 --> +5 without lucky powders on seven items, all succeeding to +5.
Hopefully proving that apples theory isn't complete rubbish.. I'll definitely always use it.

BuddahBless · **Joined:** May 2007 **Posts:** 998 **Location:**

who told you not to use lucky powders? +5 is easy to get. You could have gotten +5 with 40 elixers easy. I can't even get +2 without lucky powders though.

-edit- that video is stupid. People don't realize +5 is in the same category as getting +3 (ok well maybe a little bit harder). But how do you think so many people have +5 sets and theres nothing but +5 weapons on servers new and old. You can get the weapon to +4 easy, and then use a lucky to +5. Works almost everytime. But if you don't wanna use a lucky it's not going to make you go broke going for +5 at all. I see people here all the time saying that they spent 30 and 40 mil mil just to get +5. I laugh at people like that. They are liers.

deep.in · **Posted:** Tue Feb 12, 2008 2:30 pm

Crit:4 + 28 challenge stones = crit:4

I gave up

OL_Spongey · **Joined:** Aug 2007 **Posts:** 313 **Location:**

Good days and bad days.

somenoob · **Joined:** Jun 2007 **Posts:** 100 **Location:**

BuddahBless wrote:

who told you not to use lucky powders? +5 is easy to get. You could have gotten +5 with 40 elixers easy. I can't even get +2 without lucky powders though.

-edit- that video is stupid. People don't realize +5 is in the same category as getting +3 (ok well maybe a little bit harder). But how do you think so many people have +5 sets and theres nothing but +5 weapons on servers new and old. You can get the weapon to +4 easy, and then use a lucky to +5. Works almost everytime. But if you don't wanna use a lucky it's not going to make you go broke going for +5 at all. I see people here all the time saying that they spent 30 and 40 mil mil just to get +5. I laugh at people like that. They are liers.

Not for me. Exact opposite - I used 18 lucky stones to +5 around 9 items WITH lucky powders, and it took around two stones for each +5. (wasted around 55m for all those lucky stones.)
+4 --> +5 with lucky powders and lucky stones = 50% success (for Me)

+4 --> +5 without lucky powders or stones = 80% success (for Me)

edit; also the 'trick' is to not use lucky powders only for +4 --> +5.
1 --> 4 is with lucky powders.

Fadex · **Posted:** Tue Feb 12, 2008 3:31 pm

+5 is not that hard, just takes luck or alot of gold

Mine 72 spear full blue crit14 mag80% was +5, I +6'd it, failed +7...
Got it to +5. Bought immortal and forgot to put it on omg,,,, failed... weapon destroyed...

Now im here, +0 spear and 1 immortal stone

Now im just saving money for +7...

We all can say something bad about alchemy, it isnt supposed to be easy, ppl need to know. If it was easy, every wud have +1321418 sets, get over it and be happy if u get to +5. Dun think it takes just 10 elix to +5.

Azrael · **Joined:** Sep 2006 **Posts:** 27

mafa wrote:

Dont we all ?

I didnt really have room in my storage for that shield, so i used my 4 30% agility stones on it.

and yes, it is zoom hack, its a bot free client with zoom hack, no dc and no swear filter.

hi skiller =)

i believe lucky powders do helps in raising the alchemy chance
normally i will just walk about in DW before i do another fuse
and seems it works for me most of the time

mafa · **Joined:** Jul 2006 **Posts:** 217 **Location:**

Azrael wrote:

hi skiller =)

i believe lucky powders do helps in raising the alchemy chance
normally i will just walk about in DW before i do another fuse
and seems it works for me most of the time

Hello random dude, did i miss my name somewhere ?
I dont really think alchemy with out lucky powder gets you anything else except +0 items.

Haha07 · **Joined:** Apr 2007 **Posts:** 479 **Location:**

yeah i just went +8 on my +7 72 spear to day and now i have a +0 so yeah it sux

Heie · **Joined:** Jan 2007 **Posts:** 823 **Location:**

for +'ing items 6/7d

+5 isn't that hard..

mainly because of the event that gave us luck stones.

they are very cheap (600k for 7d 400k or less for 6d)

just use them to go for +5 and if you wanna be really safe use em for +4 too.

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