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 Post subject: EVENT, SUPPORT CLERIC
PostPosted: Tue May 27, 2008 7:33 pm 
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if you have a cleric in your party and you are on the winning team
you should share your wealth of winning tickets with him

you most likely won mostly with his suport, healing, buffs, bless
keeping you alive longer so you can make that kill

while he was doing that he was not getting kills
dont think you were so good that you deserved all your tickets
it is a team event, a good team wins most times
a team with a good cleric almost always wins
even a bad team can get lucky (to many on other team dc or dont play well together)

so think of your cleric, offer a small portion of your winnings
if the cleric recieved enough then he should refuse of course, but if not, the cleric will alway want to be on your team if you remember him

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+1. Props. Usually I end up with 20+ tickets so i give them to whoever wants em. Not like I want another mp grain that bad >_>

It is true though, the way the event is made, it's very hard for support characters to get rewarded. Maybe for every character you bring back to life.... of course that still leaves bards out...

Of course, you also have idiots who shouldn't get tickets. IMO, a cleric that uses bless at the dumbest times and uses that weak shoot white ball of magic at enemies attack and that's all he/she does doesn't really deserve tickets. Clerics that constantly heal... :love: They can have all my tickets shoo. So much fun just standing there and watching your opponents try their best to kill you and ur hp never drops below 50% XD

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if your on alex...thats never going to happen people are so greedy on the server its unbeliveable.

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heh, sounds good, it'd be nice if CTF wasn't still bugged second to the last time I tried. I don't mind if I don't get any tickets, long as the team wins.

Last time I played, I got one ticket. I buffed up as many as I could with str/int buffs, then the defensive buffs (61 phys inc, 40+ soul blessing for me) and ran around ressing everyone who died only to get killed myself three times. Honestly, I think you need two clerics in CTF.

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 Post subject: Re: EVENT, SUPPORT CLERIC
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You play Cleric usually?

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You're wrong. Clerics can get a lot of kills. That is if u know how to use him :wink:

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yes almost always for the event

Clerics, the char that keeps on giving, LOL

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Chinnese force users don't hurt either if you have no clerics


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Chinnese force users don't hurt either if you have no clerics


nah, at 80 cap i had 80 force and as soon as id vital spot id get gangraped.
the res was ok til someone saw i had it, then id get gangraped again.

its not as big of a target as a wiz subcleric though.

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i play chinese force/bow/galvie :D (low lvl char so i got enough masteries for this)

and in event, i ress and keep everyone alive, i can even attack when needed, i dont get as many tickets because i ress/heal... and when i dont, they cry ress... resss...resssssssssssss!!!!

made me mad enough a few times that when i got same people in team, i took flag and teleported to town :D

anyways, tickets should go item share too so everyone gets about equal amounts


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You're wrong. Clerics can get a lot of kills. That is if u know how to use him :wink:


No , you cant ... I play myself as Cleric ... and you cant say I dont know how to use it xD ...
1. You cant cast offering at all ... there will be always someone that will keep your HP below 95%
2. Everyone will attack you first ... and 8 of them can kill you even blessed
3. You cant do anything with Trial Cross / Justice Cross , the damage is too low , same goes for Over Healing / Glut Healing
4. You need support your characters and heal them , giving you less time for attacking ...

When I want to get some tickets I play as Wizard ... When I wanna chill out a bit and have fun , I play Cleric.

I see now , why you wrote this MissLe2 ... playing Cleric yourself ... Meh ... tickets arent worth ...
I go to CTF to get like 2% from event mobs (They give alot of exp). :D

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If 8 are killing you blessed, you're not buffed enough! :P Get some screens on, laugh at them.

In all seriousness, the question of survival isn't on the cleric's shoulder, it's on the warrior's. The main person the cleric wants to keep alive is the warrior to save their own ass.

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Was with 2 clerics the other day. Both appeared to have no understanding of the english language. ý dont fully know why...

anyway, they just used their other class (wiz and axeman) for the whole fight, died. a lot.
not all clerics are good. some are just stupid.

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 Post subject: Re: EVENT, SUPPORT CLERIC
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Cleric beats Force anytime if they know how to use their skills,
they can res many team members in a certain range(maybe all, i dunno),
they can actually buff, which chinese can't do.
(Only difference is, the chinese can use vital spot series to weaken the opponent.)

I give em my tickets if i don't really need em cos they deserve it, but I also wanna have my hp grain at the end of the day :P

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If 8 are killing you blessed, you're not buffed enough! :P Get some screens on, laugh at them.

In all seriousness, the question of survival isn't on the cleric's shoulder, it's on the warrior's. The main person the cleric wants to keep alive is the warrior to save their own ass.


Hehehe ... well we usually dont have alot of euros here on Babel :P ... especially Warriors :)
I never got in CTF with Warrior ... but once I was with Cleric ...

So they were camping us and killing us all the time (8 guys in our base ...)
I tanked all 8 of them ... Like this - The second cleric ressed me with Oblation (yeah, Cleric is fast enough to res someone with Oblation even when there are 8 campers) ... I used Bless and used Oblation on the Cleric , he casted lower level bless ... then I used party res :)

And then we all got pwned xD ... I got video of doing that :O

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Shouldn't have died if you had Recovery Division on and threw the defence buffs on yourself. O.o

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Shouldn't have died if you had Recovery Division on and threw the defence buffs on yourself. O.o


We died after buffs were over :P
(Oblation and 2x Bless) ... Rogues hits too hard :P

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Definitely need warriors then. :P Screens, quota and that other one FTW. (you can tell I haven't logged on in ages...)

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Definitely need warriors then. :P Screens, quota and that other one FTW. (you can tell I haven't logged on in ages...)


Hehehe ... Physical and Magical Fence ... :)
... and then you get glitch of random high damage :P

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Just don't have a Fence and a Quota on one person. ;) Problem solved.

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tried the CTF with my cleric last night..

lvl 60 with 54 mastery...
52 som+3 cleric rod and 60+7 shield..

ended up getting 16 kills and the flag win.

but then again it might be because the other team had quite a few ints around... making it fairly easy for me to 1 hit them with the cleric attack... got 2 guys with offering tho... but it's very hard to get it to go off as most people will come after you once they see you...

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people suck too much unless they are mates to share
i'm cleric and I always pull out my staff with lvl 44 masteries just so i can get some tickets because as a cleric you get nothing, because joymax doesn't understand killing =! winning the round and the ctf has little real incentive to win the match vs just killing people since you get 1 ticket for winning and 1 ticket per kill

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I'd gladly give ALL of my tickets to a cleric...but I get stuck with a bunch of clerics who don't know how to play most of the time >.>


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i agree with the topic starter. i have played cleric, and it really sucks not getting any tickets at all :(. also, i think all the tickets should be automatically shared in the party. because i got 7 tickets (playing warlock) while my friend _Avy_ got 17! and im pretty sure that the warriors dont get alot of tickets either. JM should really make it so the tickets of each team is shared fairly. no wonder i havent seen alot of full cleric or warriors in stf. only xbow rogues and wiz -.-

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wow, didn't realize the warriors didn't get very many tickets too
yes JM should make it more balanced for the whole party

on a side note, those wizards and rogue's who get so much tickets
cry the loudest for buffs when there is a cleric in the party,
but do they come to the aid of the cleric? NO
Sometimes i just dont feel like giving buffs to the whiners
but that extra ticket for the win makes me do so anyway

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MissLe2 wrote:
wow, didn't realize the warriors didn't get very many tickets too
yes JM should make it more balanced for the whole party

on a side note, those wizards and rogue's who get so much tickets
cry the loudest for buffs when there is a cleric in the party,
but do they come to the aid of the cleric? NO
Sometimes i just dont feel like giving buffs to the whiners
but that extra ticket for the win makes me do so anyway

8) 8)


Don't forget the constant cries for "resssss" when people do something stupid like a wizard charging into 5 event mobs...c'mon, even cleric buffs won't keep you alive then.

A well-made party should be protecting the buffers, tanking with warriors, and keeping the wizards back and safe. The clerics should have RD on and divvy up str/int buffs according to need, know when to save bless for an emergency and healing cycle constantly moving around on warriors/wiz (as well as on himself, when the need arises)

Anyway. I digress. I don't play CTF much anymore, as I'm sp farming now so I can close up my gap for lvl 64.

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thats the only reason i switched playing ctf from my lvl 32 cleric to my lvl 32 rogue. i got no respect D: all i did was heal and res constantly > < the most frustrating thing is no one in Pluto speaks english D: its so hard to play team games with people of different languages .__.


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I've pretty much quit going cleric in CTF. No one has ever offered to give me a single ticket. I don't have the cleric attack skills maxed (I solo as a bard) so kills are not easy to achieve. Lucky for my frustration levels, I don't go for the silly tickets - I go for the xp from the mobs.

Since I usually find myself in parties with 7 Chinese characters, all I get are yells for buffs (some polite, some not) and then cries for resssssss. I end up getting all of the mobs on me (RD ftw :P), no help from the others, who've usually gotten the key and gone for the flag, ignoring the rest of the mobs altogether. I can tank for a while, no problem, but when the opposing team rushes in and I'm still tanking mobs, I don't have much chance because they head straight for the cleric. :P

And don't get me started on spawn campers. :banghead:

The only time I've had any real fun in CTF was when half of my team were guild/union mates, and half of the opposing team were guild/union mates. No spawn camping, everybody allowed to res and buff before being targetted. All the laughter in vent and insults in chat. It was so much fun. :D

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