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If special bonuses from premium and avatars had no effect in pvp would you still buy?
I don't even buy them now. 23%  23%  [ 12 ]
I would still buy avatars but not premiums. 6%  6%  [ 3 ]
I would still buy a silver premium, but only to log in. 33%  33%  [ 17 ]
I would still buy a gold premium. 13%  13%  [ 7 ]
I would still buy a premium plus. 25%  25%  [ 13 ]
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 Post subject: Premium/Avatar in PVP
PostPosted: Wed Jun 04, 2008 4:33 am 
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I think that as long as joymax keeps pumping out new premium items that can give players a further edge in pvp the more players will buy them. At what point will it stop though?

I don't see too many players using premium scroll for basic pvp but honestly it's gotten to the point where if you don't have an avatar or at least a gold/silver premium, you are royally screwed in pvp.

I enjoy playing competitively but if it means spending $30 a month for premium plus, I don't think its worth it.

I would love to see a special arena where players can pvp without any extra bonuses at all. Only bonuses from actual skills would have any effect in this arena. And all others would be negated. It isn't really asking JM too much for such an arena. There are many other F2P games that have special "channels" for such things. What's even better about a private pvp arena is that it could be held on a separate server to reduce lag and even allow for cross-server pvp matches.

If players didn't want to pvp in the arena then they can still pvp anywhere they want in their own server, keeping all the bonuses that they paid so much for.

Of course since this is joymax I know it will never happen. Please leave your comments and discuss.

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 Post subject: Re: Premium/Avatar in PVP
PostPosted: Wed Jun 04, 2008 4:38 am 
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I seriously doubt premium plus comes into your competitive play so much as someone with a SOSUN weapon does.

So, I'd say its completely fair and still the same. If people can have beefed ass weapons, then people can have beefed ass characters as well. That's how Joymax gets its kicks.

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 Post subject: Re: Premium/Avatar in PVP
PostPosted: Wed Jun 04, 2008 10:31 am 
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I have bought and will always buy the suits for the looks. The stats are just a nice extra.

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 Post subject: Re: Premium/Avatar in PVP
PostPosted: Wed Jun 04, 2008 10:53 am 
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i got avatar and prem + but prem + is mostly for 5hours ticket :wink:

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 Post subject: Re: Premium/Avatar in PVP
PostPosted: Wed Jun 04, 2008 10:56 am 
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Item mall is to give your character advantage, so there is no reason JM removes it to make a "fair" game.

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 Post subject: Re: Premium/Avatar in PVP
PostPosted: Thu Jun 05, 2008 1:08 am 
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its more annoying when your pvping and pwn this little bitch no prem vs no prem and he comes back the next day and is suddenly hard to kill. those stats add alot.

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PostPosted: Thu Jun 05, 2008 1:10 am 
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true that happend to me before on xian lol

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 Post subject: Re: Premium/Avatar in PVP
PostPosted: Thu Jun 05, 2008 1:19 am 
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yes its true I tested sosun 8d bow against people for damage when my PT ran out. They had PT+ and decent equips and the damage was about the same as +7 bow maybe a little better.

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 Post subject: Re: Premium/Avatar in PVP
PostPosted: Thu Jun 05, 2008 1:19 am 
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VcentG wrote:
I seriously doubt premium plus comes into your competitive play so much as someone with a SOSUN weapon does.

Premium plus comes really close to sun gear for a player.

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 Post subject: Re: Premium/Avatar in PVP
PostPosted: Thu Jun 05, 2008 1:28 am 
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VcentG wrote:
I seriously doubt premium plus comes into your competitive play so much as someone with a SOSUN weapon does.

Premium plus comes really close to sun gear for a player.

imagine a wizard with full blues +9 SoSun Staff with premium plus :banghead:.

OT: i dont even buy a premium now :P. if i buy something from silk, its either gonna be a regular premium (for 3 hrs grind cause i cant play more xD), or a monkey :)

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 Post subject: Re: Premium/Avatar in PVP
PostPosted: Thu Jun 05, 2008 1:38 am 
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I didnt have a prem on my Blader then entire 2 months I was hunting, I had a silver prem on my alt char just to log in.

Its a big difference in PvP between no Prem and a Prem Plus....they are doing 10% more damage to you and your doing 10% less damage to them......and thats not even including the 10 Str/Int and the Parries.

Normal Prem to Prem+ bonus' arn't that extreme though....they do 5% more dmage to you and your doing 5% less to them....not a major difference but still an edge.

I had 5% bonus damage and 5% bonus DF from Angel Wings and Wizard Hat by the way....as did everyone else im sure.....At least 1 Avatar Suit and Avatar Hat is really required for PvP, its a one time buy anyway.

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 Post subject: Re: Premium/Avatar in PVP
PostPosted: Thu Jun 05, 2008 2:10 am 
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I bought the avatar suit to hide away from my armor and to have a little more uniqueness, but ended up backfiring.. everyone has them. I'd still buy a suit, but it'd have to be a little cheaper since there isn't a bonus, but looks.

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