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 Post subject: Rogue Support
PostPosted: Mon Jun 02, 2008 11:21 am 
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I recently made a new rogue on Mercury. It's really fun to play with and i got it to lv 23 quickly. I have not subbed yet, wondering which to pick out of Bard and cleric. I wana get cleric and use it as a party support/healer when i get lazy :). Being full strength is this possible? ( Would u advise against it? )

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 Post subject: Re: Rogue Support
PostPosted: Mon Jun 02, 2008 11:23 am 
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IMO I think rogue/bard is better because rogue is a hit and run build so bard will help because it has speed


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 Post subject: Re: Rogue Support
PostPosted: Mon Jun 02, 2008 11:37 am 
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Tasdik wrote:
IMO I think rogue/bard is better because rogue is a hit and run build so bard will help because it has speed


QFT, but if you really wanna go cleric. Yeah it's possible to be a healer as pure str. Your heals will just not heal as much as int builds.

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 Post subject: Re: Rogue Support
PostPosted: Mon Jun 02, 2008 11:42 am 
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cool, i read somewhere that pure str healers can be quite useful. Thanks for the advice and i think im gona use cleric over bard!. :)


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 Post subject: Re: Rogue Support
PostPosted: Mon Jun 02, 2008 11:44 am 
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You should also consider warrior or warlock as sub, bteween bard and cleric you should go cleric, for a capped player the price of a speed drug isnt too expensive considering the amount of gold you can make.

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 Post subject: Re: Rogue Support
PostPosted: Mon Jun 02, 2008 11:46 am 
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NobleHunter wrote:
You should also consider warrior or warlock as sub, between bard and cleric you should go cleric. for a capped player the price of a speed drug is affordable considering the amount of gold you get from monsters and the price of the drops.

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 Post subject: Re: Rogue Support
PostPosted: Mon Jun 02, 2008 11:47 am 
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How would warrior help? [sry new to euro classes]

EDIT: Did noblehunter post twice? or did i do something???


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 Post subject: Re: Rogue Support
PostPosted: Mon Jun 02, 2008 11:51 am 
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You can give warrior buffs to protect wizards/clerics, also rogue isnt very apreciated in a party, so with warrior as sub you can have an alternative if your party needs a tanker.

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 Post subject: Re: Rogue Support
PostPosted: Mon Jun 02, 2008 11:54 am 
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But with cleric i can be the party spam monkey, oh sry i mean healer :)

Thanks for the advice, still havent decided yet :oops:


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 Post subject: Re: Rogue Support
PostPosted: Mon Jun 02, 2008 12:23 pm 
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warrior buffs dissappear as soon as you switch weapon. Not really investing in unless you want to play as a warrior and a rogue. I'd suggest Cleric for a sub-class. Bard is really a Solo-PvE sub-class while Cleric is good for Party-Pve and Solo-PvP...

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 Post subject: Re: Rogue Support
PostPosted: Mon Jun 02, 2008 12:57 pm 
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Cheers, il keep that in mind.


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 Post subject: Re: Rogue Support
PostPosted: Mon Jun 02, 2008 12:59 pm 
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Tig3ress wrote:
But with cleric i can be the party spam monkey, oh sry i mean healer :)

Thanks for the advice, still havent decided yet :oops:

I will put this blunt; in a party you will be useless as a cleric, because you will have nowhere near enough MP to keep the party alive when grinding at higher level mobs.

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 Post subject: Re: Rogue Support
PostPosted: Mon Jun 02, 2008 12:59 pm 
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warrior buffs dissappear as soon as you switch weapon. Not really investing in unless you want to play as a warrior and a rogue. I'd suggest Cleric for a sub-class. Bard is really a Solo-PvE sub-class while Cleric is good for Party-Pve and Solo-PvP...

im pretty sure he meant to stay as warrior in the party. since he also mentioned that rogue isn't really sought after for parties. warrior is a decent sub for rogue imo.

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 Post subject: Re: Rogue Support
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This video helped me choose my rogue subclass ^ ^

http://youtube.com/watch?v=RzZ7pAT8Ung


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 Post subject: Re: Rogue Support
PostPosted: Mon Jun 02, 2008 2:41 pm 
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Rogue.Bard is better.
Bard is a must have at lv 50+. (party)

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 Post subject: Re: Rogue Support
PostPosted: Mon Jun 02, 2008 3:04 pm 
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depends on what u like to do:

rogue with warlock is best for pvp
rogue with cleric is best for party grinding
rogue with bard is best for solo grinding


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 Post subject: Re: Rogue Support
PostPosted: Mon Jun 02, 2008 4:06 pm 
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robustica wrote:
depends on what u like to do:

rogue with warlock is best for pvp
rogue with cleric is best for party grinding no
rogue with bard is best for solo grinding


Rogue with bard is better for party grinding IMO, cleric is more PvP.

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 Post subject: Re: Rogue Support
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depends on what u wanna do:
bard, good 4 solo.
cleric, a bit better in party.But if u chose cleric ur gonna need 2 do a lot more farming, thats why i chose bard :D

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 Post subject: Re: Rogue Support
PostPosted: Mon Jun 02, 2008 11:17 pm 
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Well it seems bard has more support. Less farming, better for party. I think i got my mind made up:) thanks!


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 Post subject: Re: Rogue Support
PostPosted: Tue Jun 03, 2008 12:26 am 
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yep, rogue/bard is the way to go. Also, bard does have 1 useful skill for pvp. Use the bind skill, get some distance, activate x-bow extreme, and do what you need to do to make him lay on the ground first.

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 Post subject: Re: Rogue Support
PostPosted: Tue Jun 03, 2008 7:32 am 
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Cool, thanks for all the advice guys :)


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 Post subject: Re: Rogue Support
PostPosted: Tue Jun 03, 2008 9:03 am 
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If u really wanna be lazy in party's use bard sub, i know what i'm talking about :D

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 Post subject: Re: Rogue Support
PostPosted: Tue Jun 03, 2008 10:48 am 
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 Post subject: Re: Rogue Support
PostPosted: Tue Jun 03, 2008 12:07 pm 
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Tig3ress wrote:
Hi!

I recently made a new rogue on Mercury. It's really fun to play with and i got it to lv 23 quickly. I have not subbed yet, wondering which to pick out of Bard and cleric. I wana get cleric and use it as a party support/healer when i get lazy :). Being full strength is this possible? ( Would u advise against it? )

Cheers in advence


For someone who has been here for 2 years, I find it strange that you would ask this.

I guess it really depends on how overpowered you want to be. Rogue/bard is only a 5 on the overpowered scale. Rogue/cleric is an 8, whereas Rogue/warrior is a 9. Hope it helps.

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 Post subject: Re: Rogue Support
PostPosted: Tue Jun 03, 2008 12:51 pm 
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Europe has not been around for 2 years and a lot of people don't like Europe. :)

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 Post subject: Re: Rogue Support
PostPosted: Tue Jun 03, 2008 12:59 pm 
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I don't know jack sh1t about clereics or bards lol. Go warrior, it's fun. That's the only reason I have :D

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 Post subject: Re: Rogue Support
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ugh, bard....so useless

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 Post subject: Re: Rogue Support
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XemnasXD wrote:
ugh, bard....so useless


In a party, a rogue/bard has more uses than a rogue/cleric. Just saying, mate. :)

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 Post subject: Re: Rogue Support
PostPosted: Tue Jun 03, 2008 1:19 pm 
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Tig3ress wrote:
Hi!

I recently made a new rogue on Mercury. It's really fun to play with and i got it to lv 23 quickly. I have not subbed yet, wondering which to pick out of Bard and cleric. I wana get cleric and use it as a party support/healer when i get lazy :). Being full strength is this possible? ( Would u advise against it? )

Cheers in advence


For someone who has been here for 2 years, I find it strange that you would ask this.

I guess it really depends on how overpowered you want to be. Rogue/bard is only a 5 on the overpowered scale. Rogue/cleric is an 8, whereas Rogue/warrior is a 9. Hope it helps.


I have played Euro for 3 days >.>


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 Post subject: Re: Rogue Support
PostPosted: Tue Jun 03, 2008 1:24 pm 
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XemnasXD wrote:
ugh, bard....so useless


In a party, a rogue/bard has more uses than a rogue/cleric. Just saying, mate. :)

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And yeah, imo like, people can have different opinions, sure.
But everybody that has experienced party grinding will know that you just cant grind without a bard in your party, it's really really important, take me for example, i thought just like some of u did, when somebody said rogue+bard i was like "Uh, kinda useless, just go cleric for bless and shytz" But now.. You see, there are a lot of rogues that most people dont want in parties.. so what do they do, they just use their bard sub class, heal mp, do tambour and shytz. And that's very good support so basicly, you can go afk sometimes and chill as a bard and once u get to high lvl, u still manage to be able to do some high dmg crits, it's pretty good if u ask me cause beeing a bard in a pt is really chill, unless you got a really good "party" (meaning u always have mobs coming, a lot of wizards fighting 24/7)

But yeah, definitly Rogue/Bard

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