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What build has the best chance of winning in PvP?
Pure STR rogue dagger and xbow/cleric sub. 20%  20%  [ 18 ]
Pure STR glaive/fire or whatever sub ya want (tell if different from fire). 14%  14%  [ 13 ]
Pure STR bow (fire/ice/light?) 11%  11%  [ 10 ]
Pure STR Blader 19%  19%  [ 17 ]
Pure STR Warrior/Cleric 36%  36%  [ 32 ]
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 Post subject: Battle of the STR builds.
PostPosted: Mon Sep 01, 2008 1:25 pm 
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Ok, here's my question:
At level 90, the current cap, what build has the best chance of winning? Each build has the same armor, pots using X-large hp/mp pots, and same degree weapons with same SoX and all weapons have FB.

This might be a silly question, but I'm asking all this because I chose Rogue/cleric as my build and some of my friends tell me it sucks at lvl 90 cap. -_-"
So I thought I'd make this poll for when I make my next build months down the road. :D

edit: I deleted warrior/cleric from poll choices cuz all the nubs will pick it. xD
Vote again whoever already voted. lol

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If you have fun playing the build, it shouldn't matter. Besides, we all know the strongest builds are INT. xD

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1. Wrong section...
2. 4 options, which you can select all :?

Anyway they all have good pros and cons, it's just how YOU play them, they all got decent chances for winning. If I have to chose I go for the glaive, it stays my favourite...

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Alright I'll say this once. Every build has its ups and downs each cap.
For Chinese it is: (Pure str)
60 Cap- Glaive owned
70 Cap- Glaive owned
80 Cap- Bow owned
90 Cap- Blade owns
100 Cap- Bow (So I'm told)

I dont know about Euros because they havent been around long enough but it works in a similar manner. Your never going to get anywhere picking the build thats good this cap. Your just going to end up restarting next cap when its not as good. Your never going to get anywhere picking a build you may not like but still might be good.

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def rouge

with xbow and i was level 20, i killed a wizzy level 36 in life control 8)

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 Post subject: Re: Battle of the STR builds.
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Kayson wrote:
Ok, here's my question:
At level 90, the current cap, what build has the best chance of winning? Each build has the same armor, pots using X-large hp/mp pots, and same degree weapons with same SoX and all weapons have FB.

This might be a silly question, but I'm asking all this because I chose Rogue/cleric as my build and some of my friends tell me it sucks at lvl 90 cap. -_-"
So I thought I'd make this poll for when I make my next build months down the road. :D

edit: I deleted warrior/cleric from poll choices cuz all the nubs will pick it. xD
Vote again whoever already voted. lol

1-it is a silly question.. just play the build if u enjoy it.
2-ur question is only focusing on 1v1 pvp which is not everything in the game.. u are forgetting pve, group pvp, unique hunting, jobbing, party play..etc.
3-u asked who would win at the 90 cap and removed warrior/cleric from the choices??? warrior/clerics ARE the most complete build at the 90 cap, and removing it doesnt change anything, it only make ur poll absolutely useless and valueless.
4-rogue/cleric doesnt suck at the 90 cap or at any other cap.. the one who told u this is an idiot. a rogue cleric is nothing but deadly in the right hands. prolly the guy who told u this doesnt know anything about rogue play.
5-just for the record.. rogues aren't so cool in 1v1 pvp unless u do the following combo:
Bless Spell+Healing Cycle -> Xbow on-> long shot-> hurricane shot-> Daggers on-> Dagger Desperate-> Scud-> Mortal Wounds -> butterfly blow-> GG
(obviosly if hurricane shot doesnt kd the 1st time, just use intense shot to kb and repeat the chain)
6-as u can see, playing a rogue isnt about pressing 1,2,3..1,2,3..1,2,3 like some retards play them. u have the skill, u are legit, u are full farmed = u own.

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Blader levels to slow if you ask me im thinking bout duel weapon bicheon/Hueskal/Fire :O

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oh, and i forgot to ask.. WHAT THE HELL IS WIZARD/BARD DOING IN THE POLL?
this build is PATHETIC.. only good for pve, in which u cant kill giants ur level btw. nobody even uses this build at the cap.. maybe level up with it then delevel bard for cleric, but thats about it !
and my vote goes for warrior/cleric which u didnt put.. does that make make me a noob?

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nohunta wrote:
Blader levels to slow if you ask me im thinking bout duel weapon bicheon/Hueskal/Fire :O

lol without lightning? that will lvl even slower then bicheon/fire/lightning

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Pure INT wizard/Bard sub.


Sucks in pvp, Cleric as a sub would be better for pvp ...

Anyways best STR build for pvp is either Bow or Blade, both are nice ... ur choice

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Blader levels to slow if you ask me

No it doesn't. trust me :)


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oh, and i forgot to ask.. WHAT THE HELL IS WIZARD/BARD DOING IN THE POLL?
this build is PATHETIC.. only good for pve, in which u cant kill giants ur level btw. nobody even uses this build at the cap.. maybe level up with it then delevel bard for cleric, but thats about it !
and my vote goes for warrior/cleric which u didnt put.. does that make make me a noob?


lol, Wizard/Bard is a strong build for pve when you go wiz. but in pvp bard is also strong. The nukes of a bard are faster than from a wizard and since you got guard/mana tambour you'll have defence. oh and the attacks of bard don't have a long cooldown. :roll:


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I helped you out, you're poll was kinda "O.O" =]
Bladers are cool because they level in what I like to call phases.
1-28 Pretty slow leveling.
29-36 Medium Speed.
36+ Fast leveler.

Bladers are pretty epic. =]

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I think its rogue because:
They got like a 20m range
They hit like a nuker and wizard
They have stealth
They tank


So a pure str blader will probably die quickly if rogue is far away and is on stealth mode, which I believe goes away when fightning.


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RogueKiller wrote:
Oh god not again.
Alright I'll say this once. Every build has its ups and downs each cap.
For Chinese it is: (Pure str)
60 Cap- Glaive owned
70 Cap- Glaive owned
80 Cap- Warrior/Cleric owned
90 Cap- Warrior/Cleric owns
100 Cap- Warrior/Cleric (So I'm told)

I dont know about Euros because they havent been around long enough but it works in a similar manner. Your never going to get anywhere picking the build thats good this cap. Your just going to end up restarting next cap when its not as good. Your never going to get anywhere picking a build you may not like but still might be good.

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Verfo wrote:
def rouge

with xbow and i was level 20, i killed a wizzy level 36 in life control 8)

you can own a wizz 80 with a char lv 64 if the wizz have life control xD soo you fail :P

BOW RULEZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZ

warrior cleric owns too :cry:


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All depends on best gears and actually knowing how to PvP your character.

Warrior/Cleric owned 80 cap but not so much 90 cap imo. Warlocks seem to do very well this cap.


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Rogue, they can easily win with stealth ^_^

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Blade or rogue my freind on pacific a 88 now i beleive, does pretty good in pvp he really only dies to sun users with his blader, rogue i can't see how rogue will ever begin to get worse have a 52 rogue can kill a 70 wiz in lc can kill warriors my lvl can kill bladers my lvl sure if the warrior or blader is higher lvl i probally can't win but at the cap it wont' matter with a hi crit weapon. But i perfer sub bard swing march plus cross bow back off, restealth go and hit again, of course if you like cape fights a hit and run build ain't for you but true pvp is jobbing, thats where speed and stealth come into a big play of tactics.

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RogueKiller, you said "Oh God not again..."
If you don't have anything pleasant to add, don't say it. Simple as that. :)

Ahmedsabry, in your first post you said "1-it is a silly question.. just play the build if u enjoy it."
Is that true? because if it is I'm going to go play as a pure STR nuker.
My point is, even if you like a build it might suck...
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oh, and i forgot to ask.. WHAT THE HELL IS WIZARD/BARD DOING IN THE POLL?
this build is PATHETIC.. only good for pve, in which u cant kill giants ur level btw. nobody even uses this build at the cap.. maybe level up with it then delevel bard for cleric, but thats about it !
and my vote goes for warrior/cleric which u didnt put.. does that make make me a noob?

Oh ok, I guess you're a Silkroad developer and know everything? Oh no wait, that can't be right... you must just be EXTREMELY ARROGANT. -_-"
Wizard/bard is the build that one guy uses who kills Demon Shaitan or whoever a lot of the time. So please don't comment unless you know what you're talking about.

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I helped you out, you're poll was kinda "O.O" =]
Bladers are cool because they level in what I like to call phases.
1-28 Pretty slow leveling.
29-36 Medium Speed.
36+ Fast leveler.

Bladers are pretty epic. =]

I did that on purpose, but whatever... Thanks for trying to help. I only put the pure STR builds I would want to play as or might find interesting. That's why I took warrior/cleric off but I forgot to add blader. Thanks.

Thanks to everyone who has posted maturely. :)
Keep voting in the poll if ya want, and discussion is still open...

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RogueKiller, you said "Oh God not again..."
If you don't have anything pleasant to add, don't say it. Simple as that. :)

Finish reading what I stated and what Argonaut corrected for Euro pure str.

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Verfo wrote:
def rouge

with xbow and i was level 20, i killed a wizzy level 36 in life control 8)

at lv.36 on my wizzie i killed a lv.56 rogues in CE
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it goes vice versa noop

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Verfo wrote:
def rouge

with xbow and i was level 20, i killed a wizzy level 36 in life control 8)


... a level 10 warrior could kill a 36 wiz in lc. they only have like 800 hp, literally

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No it doesn't. trust me :)


Yes, yes it does.

My blader got to ~70 in about 7 months of playing.

My nuker got to 70 in about 2 months of playing.

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If it's just chinese

Fully farmed, maxed out gear a blader should always win because it can't die (That's 1v1, and usually takes a long time).

If we were talking about the cap as it is now and will be for a loonnnng time, where no one has 89-90 gear, pure str glaive is pretty dominant with it's overwhelming damage as are pure ints (ss or spear).

If we add in euros then it depends on skill and luck. You can't really compare these because everyone PvP's differently, everyone has a different reaction time, ect. Chinese is much easier to compare do to the lack of complexity. If I had to say based from what I've seen in PvP the easiest euro build to not suck with is warrior/cleric. They are also pretty dominant considering this is 'chess like forum pvp'. You could argue the same thing over and over but you'll never get anywhere because in game..anything can happen.

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If it's just chinese

Fully farmed, maxed out gear a blader should always win because it can't die (That's 1v1, and usually takes a long time).

If we were talking about the cap as it is now and will be for a loonnnng time, where no one has 89-90 gear, pure str glaive is pretty dominant with it's overwhelming damage as are pure ints (ss or spear).

If we add in euros then it depends on skill and luck. You can't really compare these because everyone PvP's differently, everyone has a different reaction time, ect. Chinese is much easier to compare do to the lack of complexity. If I had to say based from what I've seen in PvP the easiest euro build to not suck with is warrior/cleric. They are also pretty dominant considering this is 'chess like forum pvp'. You could argue the same thing over and over but you'll never get anywhere because in game..anything can happen.

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NuclearSilo wrote:
Azilius wrote:
If it's just chinese

Fully farmed, maxed out gear a blader should always win because it can't die (That's 1v1, and usually takes a long time).

If we were talking about the cap as it is now and will be for a loonnnng time, where no one has 89-90 gear, pure str glaive is pretty dominant with it's overwhelming damage as are pure ints (ss or spear).

If we add in euros then it depends on skill and luck. You can't really compare these because everyone PvP's differently, everyone has a different reaction time, ect. Chinese is much easier to compare do to the lack of complexity. If I had to say based from what I've seen in PvP the easiest euro build to not suck with is warrior/cleric. They are also pretty dominant considering this is 'chess like forum pvp'. You could argue the same thing over and over but you'll never get anywhere because in game..anything can happen.

Still die

http://www.wegame.com/watch/lv90_Full_Int_Force_PvP


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