Found this on the official sro website (about bot bans)

Gimpdog · **Joined:** Mar 2008 **Posts:** 174 **Location:**

Quote:

Q . Why are you not catching and blocking hundreds and hundreds of bots?

A. The process involved in the investigation and confirmation of the bots has required time and other constraints which have limited the number of bots caught. However, the process is being refined rapidly and we will be able to catch more at a quicker pace.

Those who are botting who believe that they will not get caught will regret that belief. It does not matter if you are high level or low level, in a guild or not, famous or not, what time you are on, what nationality you are, what server you are on, where in the map you are, and whether you have bought silk or not. If you bot, we will block.

I wish they would keep to their word
From reading the old news it seems they actually used to care lol. Wish i was around in those days

link: http://silkroadonline.net/sro_board/fmboard/fm_board.asp?bID=SB_Inform&sID=1&Num=1&Page=63

Crowley · **Posted:** Sat Oct 04, 2008 10:55 am

You're from New Zealand

Me too!

Gimpdog · **Joined:** Mar 2008 **Posts:** 174 **Location:**

Tsume wrote:

You're from New Zealand

Me too!

WOW awsome. I have met quite a few people from New Zealand in Tibet.
What part are you from?

Crowley · **Posted:** Sat Oct 04, 2008 11:03 am

Henderson, Auckland.
You?

Gimpdog · **Joined:** Mar 2008 **Posts:** 174 **Location:**

Tsume wrote:

Henderson, Auckland.
You?

I just pm'ed you rather than spam the forums.

xxbrentonxx · **Joined:** Sep 2008 **Posts:** 257 **Location:**

How long has this been there for?

If its recent i can actually see them doing this. Legit players would probably spend more (or attract more people = more cash anyway)

Kieran · **Joined:** Jun 2008 **Posts:** 121 **Location:**

This has been posted countless times and it's quite an old interview. If you buy a lot of silk, you won't get banned. It's as simple as that (and trust me, I have A LOT of evidence behind that).

xxbrentonxx · **Joined:** Sep 2008 **Posts:** 257 **Location:**

Kieran wrote:

This has been posted countless times and it's quite an old interview. If you buy a lot of silk, you won't get banned. It's as simple as that (and trust me, I have A LOT of evidence behind that).

Lol provide evidence thats not based on someone doing it. But yeah this is from early 2006 and if you look back they actually seemed to have been doing a good job.

Kieran · **Joined:** Jun 2008 **Posts:** 121 **Location:**

xxbrentonxx wrote:

Kieran wrote:

This has been posted countless times and it's quite an old interview. If you buy a lot of silk, you won't get banned. It's as simple as that (and trust me, I have A LOT of evidence behind that).

Lol provide evidence thats not based on someone doing it. But yeah this is from early 2006 and if you look back they actually seemed to have been doing a good job.

LOL, what other evidence can I get? I know loads of people who buy silk and bot, not one of them have been banned. However, at the same time - I know loads of people who have used a bot/modified client and bought no silk and about 9/10 of them have been banned.

All you have to do is look at the ban list to see that 99% of those being banned all have goldbot names. Thus - playerbots usually buy silk and are not as likely to get banned.

That's my evidence and I'm sticking by it, I don't think I need to provide any more.

xxbrentonxx · **Joined:** Sep 2008 **Posts:** 257 **Location:**

Kieran wrote:

xxbrentonxx wrote:

Kieran wrote:

This has been posted countless times and it's quite an old interview. If you buy a lot of silk, you won't get banned. It's as simple as that (and trust me, I have A LOT of evidence behind that).

Lol provide evidence thats not based on someone doing it. But yeah this is from early 2006 and if you look back they actually seemed to have been doing a good job.

LOL, what other evidence can I get? I know loads of people who buy silk and bot, not one of them have been banned. However, at the same time - I know loads of people who have used a bot/modified client and bought no silk and about 9/10 of them have been banned.

All you have to do is look at the ban list to see that 99% of those being banned all have goldbot names. Thus - playerbots usually buy silk and are not as likely to get banned.

That's my evidence and I'm sticking by it, I don't think I need to provide any more.

But you said you have A LOT of evidence. Im thinking its more likely that the people who buy silk also buy bot cards but the people who dont buy silk use free bots, and paid bots would probably be better than free bots (or else why would anyone pay for them?)

Kieran · **Joined:** Jun 2008 **Posts:** 121 **Location:**

xxbrentonxx wrote:

Kieran wrote:

xxbrentonxx wrote:

LOL, what other evidence can I get? I know loads of people who buy silk and bot, not one of them have been banned. However, at the same time - I know loads of people who have used a bot/modified client and bought no silk and about 9/10 of them have been banned.

All you have to do is look at the ban list to see that 99% of those being banned all have goldbot names. Thus - playerbots usually buy silk and are not as likely to get banned.

That's my evidence and I'm sticking by it, I don't think I need to provide any more.

But you said you have A LOT of evidence. Im thinking its more likely that the people who buy silk also buy bot cards but the people who dont buy silk use free bots, and paid bots would probably be better than free bots (or else why would anyone pay for them?)

When I said a lot of evidence, I didn't mean different forms of evidence. I just mean I have a lot of examples of people who bot and buy silk but don't get banned.

JKMB · **Joined:** Apr 2008 **Posts:** 822 **Location:**

It shouldnt matter if there is silk on the account, a bot works by intercepting information packets from the server to the client and sending them back in a loop, on certain bots, like clientless goldbots, this process is easy to detect because they send back the wrong packets so JM knows there is something intercepting them (the bot) and bans them, as most player bots dont use clientless bots the packets looped back to the server are correct most of the time, and thus it is harder to detect that they are botting, iv known silk buying botters to get banned, it depends more on what bot they use then rather if they have bought silk

Kieran · **Joined:** Jun 2008 **Posts:** 121 **Location:**

JKMB wrote:

It shouldnt matter if there is silk on the account, a bot works by intercepting information packets from the server to the client and sending them back in a loop, on certain bots, like clientless goldbots, this process is easy to detect because they send back the wrong packets so JM knows there is something intercepting them (the bot) and bans them, as most player bots dont use clientless bots the packets looped back to the server are correct most of the time, and thus it is harder to detect that they are botting, iv known silk buying botters to get banned, it depends more on what bot they use then rather if they have bought silk

Bots that use clients can still send incorrect packets.

JKMB · **Joined:** Apr 2008 **Posts:** 822 **Location:**

Which is why I said its harder to detect, not impossible, and iv known silkbuyers using rev6's bot to be banned before and silkbuyers using a clientless to be banned aswell.

Kieran · **Joined:** Jun 2008 **Posts:** 121 **Location:**

JKMB wrote:

Which is why I said its harder to detect, not impossible, and iv known silkbuyers using rev6's bot to be banned before and silkbuyers using a clientless to be banned aswell.

Usually if they've not bought silk in a little while they can expect to be banned. I'm talking about guys that buy Premium + every month.

iSkate · **Joined:** Sep 2008 **Posts:** 159 **Location:** Home

i love this answer from them, wow

Azilius · **Joined:** Oct 2006 **Posts:** 4236 **Location:** CS:GO

That was posted over a year if not two ago. Come on people..

MiKe 51-50 · **Joined:** Dec 2006 **Posts:** 1284 **Location:**

Joymax will say whatever it takes to sound good to their paying customers. Does it mean they will ban silk buying bots? Not at all.
They use the weekly gold bot ban technique cause they noticed people started buying more silk "Cause joymax is trying to ban bots now".

xxbrentonxx · **Joined:** Sep 2008 **Posts:** 257 **Location:**

If you go back to wen they made this announcement they were banning maybe 10 each time, but a few months later they had an announcement of wanting to ban 1500 combined on all the (8) servers

marjin_boo · **Joined:** Jan 2008 **Posts:** 400 **Location:** Australia

PM me Kiwis, West Auckland FTW!

xD

CloudStrider · **Joined:** Jul 2008 **Posts:** 2125 **Location:** Away

I remember reading this a while ago, the post was making a point that silk buyers will be banned.

NZ Rugby FTL

Go Wallabies!

PR0METHEUS · **Joined:** Aug 2006 **Posts:** 4093 **Location:** Earth

Kieran wrote:

JKMB wrote:

It shouldnt matter if there is silk on the account, a bot works by intercepting information packets from the server to the client and sending them back in a loop, on certain bots, like clientless goldbots, this process is easy to detect because they send back the wrong packets so JM knows there is something intercepting them (the bot) and bans them, as most player bots dont use clientless bots the packets looped back to the server are correct most of the time, and thus it is harder to detect that they are botting, iv known silk buying botters to get banned, it depends more on what bot they use then rather if they have bought silk

Bots that use clients can still send incorrect packets.

A legit account, on a legit client, can also send incorrect packets if the packets get corrupted (or intercepted somehow) in transmission. I wonder what Joymax does, if anything, about non-repudiation. Probably nothing.

Douken · **Joined:** Sep 2006 **Posts:** 34 **Location:**

Omg... I quited SRO 2 years ago, before the taklanmakan update. Why, caused everyone around me was a bot, and that was boring. I said, when these guys get better I play again, I guess I'll never play SRO again by the looks of it.

Pan_Raider(`_´) · **Joined:** Jul 2006 **Posts:** 4737 **Location:**

Douken wrote:

Omg... I quited SRO 2 years ago, before the taklanmakan update. Why, caused everyone around me was a bot, and that was boring. I said, when these guys get better I play again, I guess I'll never play SRO again by the looks of it.

you are missing some stuff you'd regret...

xZhang_Liaox · **Joined:** Jul 2007 **Posts:** 395 **Location:**

Pan_Raider(`_´) wrote:

Douken wrote:

Omg... I quited SRO 2 years ago, before the taklanmakan update. Why, caused everyone around me was a bot, and that was boring. I said, when these guys get better I play again, I guess I'll never play SRO again by the looks of it.

you are missing some stuff you'd regret...

as for example? o_O

BalkanFanaticS · **Joined:** Nov 2007 **Posts:** 768 **Location:**

it doesnt even matter if u bot or not , no silk = bann

but the clever ppl already have that figured out , and the noobies wont accept that till their last breath lol :banghead:

PR0METHEUS · **Joined:** Aug 2006 **Posts:** 4093 **Location:** Earth

BalkanFanaticS wrote:

it doesnt even matter if u bot or not , no silk = bann

but the clever ppl already have that figured out , and the noobies wont accept that till their last breath lol :banghead:

I guess I'm a noobie then because I don't accept that. I've been playing SRO since sometime in 2006 (maybe summer?). I have 3 or 4 characters on Venice, 3 on Venus, and a few lvl 1's on at least 7 of the other servers. I have never purchased a single piece of silk on any account or character and none of them have been banned.

I haven't even logged into some of the characters on other servers in well over a year, and they are on the same account as my main characters.

REBD · **Joined:** Sep 2008 **Posts:** 601 **Location:**

PR0METHEUS wrote:

BalkanFanaticS wrote:

it doesnt even matter if u bot or not , no silk = bann

but the clever ppl already have that figured out , and the noobies wont accept that till their last breath lol :banghead:

I guess I'm a noobie then because I don't accept that. I've been playing SRO since sometime in 2006 (maybe summer?). I have 3 or 4 characters on Venice, 3 on Venus, and a few lvl 1's on at least 7 of the other servers. I have never purchased a single piece of silk on any account or character and none of them have been banned.

I haven't even logged into some of the characters on other servers in well over a year, and they are on the same account as my main characters.

almost the same situation here, created my account in 2005. Have like 3 chars on Aege, 2 on Xian and others that i never played plus my new chars on Venus and none of them is banned. I have absolutely never bought any silk and i'm doing my best to never have to buy any.

I am wondering, do you think that it is possible that account switching may be one of the reasons they decide to dig deeper in your logs ? Also the "age" of the account, the oldest the better ?

BalkanFanaticS · **Joined:** Nov 2007 **Posts:** 768 **Location:**

maybe u dont really log on them ?

REBD · **Joined:** Sep 2008 **Posts:** 601 **Location:**

BalkanFanaticS wrote:

maybe u dont really log on them ?

I only play on Venus but i have checked the other chars and they are all fine.

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