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 Post subject: can some one help me on makin a nuker thnx!!
PostPosted: Tue Sep 01, 2009 3:46 am 
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title says all i want to make a lightning/fire/hesukal nuker...


shuld i go pure int or hybrid??


also what skills to get.


thnx i would apreciate if you can get back to me A.S.A.P


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 Post subject: Re: can some one help me on makin a nuker thnx!!
PostPosted: Tue Sep 01, 2009 4:18 am 
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scratch that im making a light/cold/ but i dont kno whether to go shield and sword or spear so help me out!

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 Post subject: Re: can some one help me on makin a nuker thnx!!
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 Post subject: Re: can some one help me on makin a nuker thnx!!
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There are like bilion topics on how to build up s/s nuker with same questions as yours, and spear nuker isnt much different. Just lurk more.

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 Post subject: Re: can some one help me on makin a nuker thnx!!
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S/S Cold/Lightning

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Great in CTF
+ Nice Phy.Def (Wear protector)
+ Snow Shield
+ Fast

- Cold Nukes are pretty weak

S/S Fire/Lightning


+ Good Mag.Def
+ Powerful Nukes
+ Fast
+ Imo, this is the best grinder

- Lacks Phy.Def (Even with protector)
- No Snow Shield

I Would go to S/S Cold/Lightning.

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 Post subject: Re: can some one help me on makin a nuker thnx!!
PostPosted: Tue Sep 01, 2009 9:24 am 
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TheKnight wrote:
S/S Cold/Lightning

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Great in CTF
+ Nice Phy.Def (Wear protector)
+ Snow Shield
+ Fast

- Cold Nukes are pretty weak

S/S Fire/Lightning


+ Good Mag.Def
+ Powerful Nukes
+ Fast
+ Imo, this is the best grinder

- Lacks Phy.Def (Even with protector)
- No Snow Shield

I Would go to S/S Cold/Lightning.


I agree Although Pure int Spear is THE best chinese grinder out there they simply lack the defence even with protector, I've also seen in other discussions that spear nukers are only slightly stronger than s/s nuker. Not too sure if that's true or not, but s/s ftw :D
Clearly s/s attacks much more elagently and has higher chances of surviving while gridning due to the shield.

Pure int spear although has devastating damage you'll find yourself dying more often then s/s pure int :)


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 Post subject: Re: can some one help me on makin a nuker thnx!!
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timvole wrote:
TheKnight wrote:
S/S Cold/Lightning

+
Great in CTF
+ Nice Phy.Def (Wear protector)
+ Snow Shield
+ Fast

- Cold Nukes are pretty weak

S/S Fire/Lightning


+ Good Mag.Def
+ Powerful Nukes
+ Fast
+ Imo, this is the best grinder

- Lacks Phy.Def (Even with protector)
- No Snow Shield

I Would go to S/S Cold/Lightning.


I agree Although Pure int Spear is THE best chinese grinder out there they simply lack the defence even with protector, I've also seen in other discussions that spear nukers are only slightly stronger than s/s nuker. Not too sure if that's true or not, but s/s ftw :D
Clearly s/s attacks much more elagently and has higher chances of surviving while gridning due to the shield.

Pure int spear although has devastating damage you'll find yourself dying more often then s/s pure int :)

S/S Cold/Lightning Nuker FTW!!!

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 Post subject: Re: can some one help me on makin a nuker thnx!!
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TheKnight wrote:
timvole wrote:
TheKnight wrote:
S/S Cold/Lightning

+
Great in CTF
+ Nice Phy.Def (Wear protector)
+ Snow Shield
+ Fast

- Cold Nukes are pretty weak

S/S Fire/Lightning


+ Good Mag.Def
+ Powerful Nukes
+ Fast
+ Imo, this is the best grinder

- Lacks Phy.Def (Even with protector)
- No Snow Shield

I Would go to S/S Cold/Lightning.


I agree Although Pure int Spear is THE best chinese grinder out there they simply lack the defence even with protector, I've also seen in other discussions that spear nukers are only slightly stronger than s/s nuker. Not too sure if that's true or not, but s/s ftw :D
Clearly s/s attacks much more elagently and has higher chances of surviving while gridning due to the shield.

Pure int spear although has devastating damage you'll find yourself dying more often then s/s pure int :)

S/S Cold/Lightning Nuker FTW!!!




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 Post subject: Re: can some one help me on makin a nuker thnx!!
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S/S Fire/Lightning

+ Good Mag.Def
+ Powerful Nukes
+ Fast
+ Imo, this is the best grinder

- Lacks Phy.Def (Even with protector)
- No Snow Shield

just a little noob suggestion...how about wearing armor?
i think the most dangerous thing is, that you get KBed or KDed...and therefore wearing armor should help, anyone wanna kill me for this idea?


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 Post subject: Re: can some one help me on makin a nuker thnx!!
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ultraphoenix wrote:
S/S Fire/Lightning

+ Good Mag.Def
+ Powerful Nukes
+ Fast
+ Imo, this is the best grinder

- Lacks Phy.Def (Even with protector)
- No Snow Shield

just a little noob suggestion...how about wearing armor?
i think the most dangerous thing is, that you get KBed or KDed...and therefore wearing armor should help, anyone wanna kill me for this idea?

Armor doesn't give you any bonuses, and makes you lack mag.def :wink:

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 Post subject: Re: can some one help me on makin a nuker thnx!!
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but you lack phys def i thought? and with fire you got more mag def... and fck the bonuses^^

i thought:
-s/s fire lightning
->fire buff for mag def
->parry ratio
but
no ice -> no phys def+ easy to kill for blader / glavie / rouge
-----> only reason for no armor is the lack of mag def which i can get through the fire buff and the firewal which prevents every magical hit? (with maxed firewall you can stand 2 wizardnukes)


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 Post subject: Re: can some one help me on makin a nuker thnx!!
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Armor doesn't give any bonusses, ofc Fire itself can't fix the diffrence of Magical defense between protector and Garment, but Fire and Pure Int can, protector is enough Physical defense.

The point of whole build is make it tankish as possible, but still keep the good damage, if you go armor, the damage goes smaller, and Mana reguiments go too High.
Although Protector is great for Nuker, garment is good for grinding at Lower levels, that why bots use it.

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 Post subject: Re: can some one help me on makin a nuker thnx!!
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Heuk/Ice/Light

Go hybrid, try to keep mag balance around 85-90%. Unless you don't mind dying and like to do a lot of damage. Or you can use a ratio (5:1, 7:1, 9:1) they are all pretty good.


Don't get the first chain of heuk (Annihilating blade) as it is weaker and a waste of SP.

Not much point in getting anything that is offensive from ice, just the defensive stuff (snow shield etc) or you can use the SP if you have it.

Wear garms or protector as the guy above said.


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THANK YOU VERY MUCH!!! for all the help



just 1 more thing if i end up going hybrid spear shuld i do a 1:2 1 health n 2 mp or what??

never made hybrid so if you can help me out with the ratios n such that would be apreaciated :roll: :roll: :roll:

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