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 Post subject: Warlock/Cleric's way of killing in pvp
PostPosted: Mon Aug 24, 2009 11:19 am 
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So, as you guys can see, im not convinced NOT to go Warlock/Cleric << :shock:
Here are some other questions to you Warlock/Cleric players out there...

- Do you need the same Debuffs and DoTs to kill:
1. Full Str player
2. Full Int player
- Are the Debuffs you cast on Int players the same as on Str players?
- What if you pvp someone with Holy Spell? (immune to debuffs, right?)
- Does 'Disease' enable you to cast debuffs on Holy Spell users?

Thanks in advance,
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 Post subject: Re: Warlock/Cleric's way of killing in pvp
PostPosted: Mon Aug 24, 2009 11:33 am 
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It's basically the same for everyone, Stun, Vampire touch until you get disease, debuff, wheel bind, hidden and nuke them, maybe throwing in a stun at times. Holy spell makes you immune to debuffs so you 'll have a harder time killing the person.

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 Post subject: Re: Warlock/Cleric's way of killing in pvp
PostPosted: Mon Aug 24, 2009 12:39 pm 
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Devilman wrote:
It's basically the same for everyone, Stun, Vampire touch until you get disease, debuff, wheel bind, hidden sleep bug and nuke them, maybe throwing in a stun at times. Holy spell makes you immune to debuffs so you 'll have a harder time killing the person.

A little fix for you.

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 Post subject: Re: Warlock/Cleric's way of killing in pvp
PostPosted: Mon Aug 24, 2009 12:41 pm 
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Thomas42 wrote:
Devilman wrote:
It's basically the same for everyone, Stun, Vampire touch until you get disease, debuff, wheel bind, hidden sleep bug and nuke them, maybe throwing in a stun at times. Holy spell makes you immune to debuffs so you 'll have a harder time killing the person.

A little fix for you.


If you have to resort to sleep bug then either the person you are fighting is a much higher level and you shouldn't be fighting him, or your a noob.

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 Post subject: Re: Warlock/Cleric's way of killing in pvp
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^My point was that it's there and every warlock uses it, so it would be a waste not to; apart from that I think the same way as you, I don't like abusing bugs. Sorry for not making that clear.

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 Post subject: Re: Warlock/Cleric's way of killing in pvp
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Murtaghs wrote:
So, as you guys can see, im not convinced NOT to go Warlock/Cleric << :shock:
Here are some other questions to you Warlock/Cleric players out there...

- Do you need the same Debuffs and DoTs to kill:
1. Full Str player
2. Full Int player
- Are the Debuffs you cast on Int players the same as on Str players?
- What if you pvp someone with Holy Spell? (immune to debuffs, right?)
- Does 'Disease' enable you to cast debuffs on Holy Spell users?

Thanks in advance,
Murtaghs


1. What they said, start with diesese, impotent, then use trap (sleep - optinal) other_debuffs/bleed_or_dull_dots, throw in stun when needed,
nuke away, dusk armor everytime you can, reflect aswell, maintain healing cycle on yourself ALWAYS.

2. Without holyspell? diesese, trap, sleep, *wait 2-3seconds*, overhealing, gluthealing, overhealing. Dead, no exceptions.

- Yeah.
- Stun, maintain healing cycle on yourself, diesese increases the chance of Death Trap, and it CAN pass through Holy Spell. Dusk armor when able, advanced reflect, remember to keep healing cycle on yourself and pray for them not critting you. For easy win, you can throw in stun, followed with offering.
- No, it doesnt, except with Death Trap.

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 Post subject: Re: Warlock/Cleric's way of killing in pvp
PostPosted: Mon Aug 24, 2009 1:41 pm 
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OMG nitro are you serious can death trap (not bloody right the one with aoe effect) pass thr. holyspell? (do we need disease if yes? ) oh that is very nice 8)


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 Post subject: Re: Warlock/Cleric's way of killing in pvp
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What about this:
Stun - Debuff - *switch to cleric rod* > (Pure)Offering
I know there is no fun in playing like that if it works, but DOES it actually work?

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 Post subject: Re: Warlock/Cleric's way of killing in pvp
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^Yeah, it works...
@cezzy - it was possible at 90 cap (with diesese), but it should work this one too.

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 Post subject: Re: Warlock/Cleric's way of killing in pvp
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Ive already farmed a char to 60k sp(lol) for i think it was 50 cap or 40 cap.

And im atm at level 26 with npc armor, but i can kill ongs quite easily and berserker mode comes up so fast everytime its kind of nice :)

In pvp i cant wait to get pure offering. As well as in pking bots :D

My comment - Warlock/Cleric all the way (Fug_Dups guide FTW)

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 Post subject: Re: Warlock/Cleric's way of killing in pvp
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Can any lvl100 ff player (if any :D) confirm that warlock debuffs& traps etc. pass thr. holy spell lvl3 ?


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 Post subject: Re: Warlock/Cleric's way of killing in pvp
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cezzy wrote:
Can any lvl100 ff player (if any :D) confirm that warlock debuffs& traps etc. pass thr. holy spell lvl3 ?


Debuffs don't go through holy spell thats for 100% but i don't know about trap, will log on to my friends warrrior/warlock and try.

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 Post subject: Re: Warlock/Cleric's way of killing in pvp
PostPosted: Tue Aug 25, 2009 5:33 pm 
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hmm i didnt play since lvl 100 cap but i remember hearing from Korean SRO that Debuffs can pass Holyspell there cause it adds only 50% protection against all bad status o.O. I always hoped for that change at 100 cap but i guess debuffs are still useless against holyword/spell users.
So i wonder if this change will come to our sro one day or if what i heared about ksro was just not true? Is there anyone who can clear this up for me?


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In all other SRO versions holy word/spell gives 50% immunity only.

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 Post subject: Re: Warlock/Cleric's way of killing in pvp
PostPosted: Tue Sep 08, 2009 5:51 pm 
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Thomas42 wrote:
In all other SRO versions holy word/spell gives 50% immunity only.


so can we hope for that change in the future as well? or has it always been 50% only in other SROs?


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 Post subject: Re: Warlock/Cleric's way of killing in pvp
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yes death trap has 20% posibility with desease on holy spell lvl 3 , it works sometimes ^^


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 Post subject: Re: Warlock/Cleric's way of killing in pvp
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Guys, if you get Warlock full farmed to 100, you get Level 11 debuffs, that WILL pass through Holy Spell 3 (only protects against Lv 10 statuses).

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 Post subject: Re: Warlock/Cleric's way of killing in pvp
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Rhe7oric wrote:
Guys, if you get Warlock full farmed to 100, you get Level 11 debuffs, that WILL pass through Holy Spell 3 (only protects against Lv 10 statuses).

u dont lol , debuff 10d too.


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