Hybrid int Sword / Shield

Extince · **Joined:** Jan 2008 **Posts:** 8

Hello ,

i wanna make a hybrid int sword + shield
but i don't know what's the best magical balance

is it 85 %, 87% or even higher 100% ?¿

btw, my mastery's are > lightning 90
cold 90
bicheon 90

current lvl 42 , magical balance 91 % (naked)
i don't know what i need to do so thanks for answering

Extince · **Joined:** Jan 2008 **Posts:** 8

btw, i don't like to be full int cause i have the mana shield

i wanna have crits cause i'm hybrid if i go pvping i'm gonna use ;

KN stab nuke KN stab nuke etc , give me advice plz LoL

Sylhana · **Joined:** Mar 2007 **Posts:** 3467 **Location:**

1:7 (~87%?) or higher (ie, dont put more than 30 points of str at lvl 80, the less the better). Dont go too low or your nukes wont hit as hard. Again there is not best magical balance, but the more int (or less str points) the better. Hybrid s/s wont be able to tank as good as a blader, nor will it be able to hit nukes as strong as a pure int spear nuker, so know the limitations of your build.

Kd, stab, stab, nuke, is an ok strategy. If you could find the time to sp farm for a bit more skill, try to get lightning chain, and flying stone smash for bleed and division debuffs, which adds alot to the damage you can dish out.

Hybrid int usually uses spear, and pure ints usually use s/s, though you could make a hybrid int s/s just make sure you dont place too much str points for your lvl 80 build.

Extince · **Joined:** Jan 2008 **Posts:** 8

okay thx for your info.

Aiyas · **Posted:** Sat Jan 05, 2008 9:09 am

Sylhana wrote:

1:7 (~87%?) or higher (ie, dont put more than 30 points of str at lvl 80, the less the better). Dont go too low or your nukes wont hit as hard. Again there is not best magical balance, but the more int (or less str points) the better. Hybrid s/s wont be able to tank as good as a blader, nor will it be able to hit nukes as strong as a pure int spear nuker, so know the limitations of your build.

Kd, stab, stab, nuke, is an ok strategy. If you could find the time to sp farm for a bit more skill, try to get lightning chain, and flying stone smash for bleed and division debuffs, which adds alot to the damage you can dish out.

Hybrid int usually uses spear, and pure ints usually use s/s, though you could make a hybrid int s/s just make sure you dont place too much str points for your lvl 80 build.

A slightly off-topic question:

Would a hybrid INT spear need to be 1:7? Because to me, if you're going to have that that many points in INT, shouldn't you just go pure? (I've been working on a hybrid INT spear that's 2:1.)

Sylhana · **Joined:** Mar 2007 **Posts:** 3467 **Location:**

Aiyas wrote:

Sylhana wrote:

1:7 (~87%?) or higher (ie, dont put more than 30 points of str at lvl 80, the less the better). Dont go too low or your nukes wont hit as hard. Again there is not best magical balance, but the more int (or less str points) the better. Hybrid s/s wont be able to tank as good as a blader, nor will it be able to hit nukes as strong as a pure int spear nuker, so know the limitations of your build.

Kd, stab, stab, nuke, is an ok strategy. If you could find the time to sp farm for a bit more skill, try to get lightning chain, and flying stone smash for bleed and division debuffs, which adds alot to the damage you can dish out.

Hybrid int usually uses spear, and pure ints usually use s/s, though you could make a hybrid int s/s just make sure you dont place too much str points for your lvl 80 build.

A slightly off-topic question:

Would a hybrid INT spear need to be 1:7? Because to me, if you're going to have that that many points in INT, shouldn't you just go pure? (I've been working on a hybrid INT spear that's 2:1.)

Its just a balancing exercise. I've seen 1:7 int hybrid spears dishing out high damage nukes, and 1:2 int hybrid spears doing excellent heuksal skill damage and tanking for a bit without depending on snow shield. Again, there is no correct answer for this. The more int, the higher the nuke damage; the more str, the more damage you could do with weapon skills (especially when it crits), and to an extent, tank for a bit.

Aiyas · **Posted:** Sat Jan 05, 2008 10:46 am

Sylhana wrote:

Aiyas wrote:

Sylhana wrote:

1:7 (~87%?) or higher (ie, dont put more than 30 points of str at lvl 80, the less the better). Dont go too low or your nukes wont hit as hard. Again there is not best magical balance, but the more int (or less str points) the better. Hybrid s/s wont be able to tank as good as a blader, nor will it be able to hit nukes as strong as a pure int spear nuker, so know the limitations of your build.

Kd, stab, stab, nuke, is an ok strategy. If you could find the time to sp farm for a bit more skill, try to get lightning chain, and flying stone smash for bleed and division debuffs, which adds alot to the damage you can dish out.

Hybrid int usually uses spear, and pure ints usually use s/s, though you could make a hybrid int s/s just make sure you dont place too much str points for your lvl 80 build.

A slightly off-topic question:

Would a hybrid INT spear need to be 1:7? Because to me, if you're going to have that that many points in INT, shouldn't you just go pure? (I've been working on a hybrid INT spear that's 2:1.)

Its just a balancing exercise. I've seen 1:7 int hybrid spears dishing out high damage nukes, and 1:2 int hybrid spears doing excellent heuksal skill damage and tanking for a bit without depending on snow shield. Again, there is no correct answer for this. The more int, the higher the nuke damage; the more str, the more damage you could do with weapon skills (especially when it crits), and to an extent, tank for a bit.

I see. Thanks for your input.

Stress · **Posted:** Sat Jan 05, 2008 10:51 am

http://www.stage6.com/user/hostapler/vi ... athens-pvp
Hybrid INT S&S.

http://uk.youtube.com/watch?v=rV8SWKau4aU
Hybrid INT Spear.

They practically have the same balance, if you look at their MP (which is roughly 17k).

Observations:
Notice the 17k nuke on the archer in the first video, while he was under division status. On the other hand, XMAT can dish out a 10k nuke on a full sun (the bower), without any status effects.

All the heuksal can do is dull, stun and knockback, whereas the bicheon can cause bleed, impotent, division, and most of all, the bicheon can KD, which is a great defense combined with snow shield and castle shield.

All in all, it's your choice really. Both builds look really good to me.

Just make it: 80 weapon, 80 lightning, 80 cold, 60 fire

VeniVidiVici · **Joined:** Nov 2007 **Posts:** 920 **Location:** OTL

this is about a spearman 7:1 named Revje

before euro: http://www.stage6.com/user/FckZr/video/ ... essive-INT

after euro: http://www.stage6.com/user/FckZr/video/ ... T-(Part-II)

Disconn3cted · **Joined:** Mar 2007 **Posts:** 3293 **Location:** WV, USA

with the bicheon status effects and the new stabs it will be in your advantage at some point to be sword instead of spear and have a magic balance of about 5:1 (85%) but im not sure how you would set up the masteries for this yet lol

i think 90 bicheon
70 light
90 fire
50 ice

for spear since you dont have the bicheon status's or the shield you will need more dmg to kill the enemy before he kills you and more mp to use the snow shield so i would suggest 7:1 (87%)

90 heuksal
90 ice
90light
30 fire

glavie · **Joined:** Dec 2006 **Posts:** 1195 **Location:**

Sylhana wrote:

[color=indigo]1:7 (~87%?) or higher (ie, dont put more than 30 points of str at lvl 80, the less the better). Dont go too low or your nukes wont hit as hard. Again there is not best magical balance, but the more int (or less str points) the better. Hybrid s/s wont be able to tank as good as a blader, nor will it be able to hit nukes as strong as a pure int spear nuker, so know the limitations of your build.

You must hate me cause it seems like I always pick on you..........

A 70:70 balanced hybrid int will tank as well or better than a STR version when using snow shield.

So why oh why doesn't anyone pick this build for sword

If I botted I would definitely make one.

Extince · **Joined:** Jan 2008 **Posts:** 8

hey glavie ,

what are you accactly meaning with '' 70:70 " hybrid int

could u explain in to me

glavie · **Joined:** Dec 2006 **Posts:** 1195 **Location:**

Sure. Lets start by saying that a standard hybrid int sword has a magic balance between 80% and pure int. The reason for this is to keep nukes strong.
Strong nukes are good for pvp and they are great for fast grinding. When you add more str and your magic balance hits 70% your physical balance will also be 70%. Thats why its called 70:70.
When you are 70:70 you still have more int then str.
The problem with 70:70 is your nukes are almost useless, they are about the same strength as your weapon skills. Basically you open with a nuke in pvp and then switch to weapon skills and act like a str character. You hit harder then them though because you have a lot of imbue damage.

Click on the link then click on the head icon.
70:70 build with fully blued gear at lvl 80
http://bobtheveg.dyndns.org/SRO/Char_Bu ... file=46655

You have 12379hp at 80.

With this balance you can run up to 40%snow shield(lvl60).
40% of 12379= 4952
So with snow shield effective balance is 12379+4952= 17331 effective hp

pure str with gear
http://bobtheveg.dyndns.org/SRO/Char_Bu ... ofile=3546
18689hp

Now add 1200hp to each chapracter for the Hp blue stat.

Sadly the calculator isn't perfect but the hp numbers are close to in game. There is only a 1,358HP difference.

Pots take time to pot, they heal in bursts, unlike grains that heal instantly. Now if you transfer damage to the mp bar your pots have a better chance keeping up. So unless you get 1 shot you will tank just as well.

So for 2min with snow shield you will be a blader on steroids, 1min recharge time you will have to be careful. 90cap gets complicated with this build if you aren't maxing ice. The mastery limit is tricky.

I suggest you check my math, I have made mistakes before.

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