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PostPosted: Sat Nov 04, 2006 8:01 pm 
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Well i know its on bandits, but i have a few question's. i already have a som+5 crit 12 bow, and am working on getting nice armor with +'s. but i have question's on what the best thing to do is.

First off, whats best to grind on? bandit archer's, or normal bandits? i drop archer's in 1 hit with a crit, and 2 hits normally.

also, what lvl should i be? i was thinking it would be best to stay at lvl 16, but its such a pain in the ass to get to 99%, then spend 30 min's getting back to like 2%

i have seen people selling "farming suits" which are just full degree 3 sos set's with blues, but for a full degree 3 set, you have to be like lvl 21? i though you needed to stay like lvl 16?


edit: im also building a hybrid nuker, im doing a 2:1, some times a 3:0, but im defently going to be int heavy nuker.
also, with a good bow, and gold ticket, and me being relativley fast at killing them, any idea how long i should expect befori make the 130k?

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I know some people who farm at lvl 14 (9 lvl gap from lvl 5) on archers, farm on them till lvl 16, then keep killing bandits and delvling. Im not really sure if theres an alt to delvling

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well.

dont bother de-leveing. its just a waste to time. what you should do is
now that your at lv 16 is to keep going until you reach lv20. Then making sure that you have at least a 9 level mastery to level gap. Start to
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At lv20 then go and kill around the ferry (west or east, jangan side).
If you do this, then you should reach 130k very fast. Also dont bother
with a so called "farming suits" huge waste of time and money.

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At lv20 then go and kill around the ferry (west or east, jangan side).
If you do this, then you should reach 130k very fast. Also dont bother
with a so called "farming suits" huge waste of time and money.

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Dont think so, apparently u only get 100k from lvl 16-30 with 9 lv gap

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not if you use a gold ticket in a 4/4 party....

and the man did say he had a gold ticket :)

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satman83 wrote:
at least a 9 level mastery to level gap

At least 9? I thought there isn't any difference in EXP/SP distribution at a 10+ level gap. I'm farming with a 9 level gap now.

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At least 9? I thought there isn't any difference in EXP/SP distribution at a 10+ level gap. I'm farming with a 9 level gap now.


You are right, once you hit lvl 10 Gap you can add +1 to each mastery tree you want without any EXP/SXP change.

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i though it was best to stay on bandits due to the stupid fast respawn rate. so keep going untill like lvl 20, then just keep crushing thing around ferry's?

also, the reason im farming so much, is so i can lvl with like a 0 lvl gap untill like lvl 56 or 60. if i get 130k sp by lvl like 21, do you think i can go with a 0 lvl gap, on like sword class, ice*just for ice gaurd and passive*, then all usefull things/nukes in light/fire untill like 54?

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Im going to guess that most of the people that have replied this thread have no farmed for themselves.

Here's my advice,

If you have a SOM +5 lv 16 bow, you should be able to 1 hit archers with imbue. I have a SOS +5 lv 16 bow and a farming suit and I can 1 hit archers. I should also add in that I'm int heavy hybrid. Most of my gear has full 3 int and 3 str on it. My masteries are at 84/93.

You should only farm on archers if you can 1 hit them. At lv 16, they give 139 sxp. Bandits give around 209 sxp. If you can 1 hit archers and 2 hit bandits, you would get 278 vs 209 sxp, respectively. Now anybody can see that hitting 2 archers vs 1 bandit is way better. I also believe that archers spawn alot faster than bandits.

Farming 130k is a good goal, that'll give you ~200k sp if you don't do quests. It takes me around 1 hour to get 500-600 sp without ticket. So say you get 500 sp if you 1 hit archers and farm on them. 3 hours of play a day gets you 1500 sp. That would take 87 days to farm that amount. If I were you, I would invest in a gold ticket and thus will reduce your time by half, 44 days.

Sure, it seems like a pain in the ass to farm so god damn much, but it saves stress later on in the game. You won't be short on SP when you get to higher levels. I plan on getting my masteries for the raise in cap to 80 as follows, 80 for spear, fire, and light and 60 for ice. That maximizes my mastery cap at 300 even. I can decide to change w/e when the cap raises to 90. To get all the skills I want, I need a total of 320k sp. And extrapolating the sp income per lvl at 71-80, you get 59k sp and from 0-70 you get 70k sp fora grand total of 129k sp. Thus, farming 200k would be a good number for me.

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well i will for sure have a gold ticket. i have used a gold ticket since my first char was lvl 18. also sport a money just for gold pickup on farming. i cant 1 hit archer's since i have a total of +6str, and +3 int from my equipment *i know, i need better farming gear* you said alot, but didnt answer my biggest question, should i stay lvl 16, or just lvl untill i can get a full degree 3 "farming set"

also, im fairly sure they will raise the max masteries once they raise the lvl cap.


edit: also, i was planing on doing sword/shield due to the blocking, and extra protection from the shield.

but whats best for hybrid nuker? spear, or shield/sword?

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well i did that calc thing and i put in my path of masteries and to get to lv 30 with all the masteries i could ever want i need 6k sp......... that cant be right can it??????
if u cant see what this has to do with this thread, y u need 130k and i only need 6?????


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well you need 6k to get to lvl 30.. lvl 30 isnt even half way threw the game. this 130k should last me untill i reach lvl 54 or so, and thats with a 0 level gap. i did the calc, and it says i will need roghly 240k to reach 70 with a bunch of my masteries. so 130k is alot to start with, plus you add the sp you make while leveling.

you have to think long term, farming for sp just to level 30 isnt very long, hell, i can get a char to level 30 in like 5 days

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Gobstoppable wrote:
well you need 6k to get to lvl 30.. lvl 30 isnt even half way threw the game. this 130k should last me untill i reach lvl 54 or so, and thats with a 0 level gap. i did the calc, and it says i will need roghly 240k to reach 70 with a bunch of my masteries. so 130k is alot to start with, plus you add the sp you make while leveling.

you have to think long term, farming for sp just to level 30 isnt very long, hell, i can get a char to level 30 in like 5 days


It'll take a hell of a lot longer than 5 days with a 9 level gap.

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Sorry for not answering for other question man.

But to answer it now :D

Stay at lv 16-18. It will be beneficial to you to delvl constantly whenever you reach lv 18. Think about it, if you have to kill say...2000 archers to go from 16-17 and you have to kill 3000 to go from 17-18. You lose 9 sxp when you are at lv 17 compared to 16. That's a loss of 9k sxp which is about...22.5 sp. If you have another char and another computer, get res and delvl yourself. It takes about 15 min to delvl yourself or something like that, because I delvl myself.

So again, STAY AT THE DEN. Don't go elsewhere because then you will be competing with others for quest mobs and gold bots. Also, this is how I made my farming char. I lvled my char from 1-25. I left all useful skills at lvl 7 but upped my heuksal mastery every lvl so I could get 0 gap to lvl fast. From lvs 20-25 I collected curst hearts so I could delvl my masteries back down to 7. So 25-7 is 18 lvls so you must gather 180 hearts. The reason for lvl'ing up to 20-25 is for the extra stat points. That will add more int so your balance will be higher and so will your damage. Before they fixed the balance issue, I had 83/127 balances. Now they readjusted the values but do the same damage, 84/93 (I did some more alchemy).

Come to Athens if you want an explanation or PM me since I won't be on SRO much b/c of work/exams. Nobody will farm/grind around you in the den if you can 1 hit archers. People will whine and bitch around you but you can keep on with your farming. Like it's your fault you 1 hit them :roll:

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Well im gonna be different and not recommend lvl16 farming.

I did that for a while, with SOM+5 bow, and it sucked.
By the end of each day i had to die->get ressed 100 times to get back to lvl16.

I'd recommend you get a 9 lvl gap at lvl32, get a fresh lvl32 SOS with +3 or higher, and go to Flowers around oasis (just east of where the road starts under the lake, there is a circle where 5-6 mobs respawn in 10 secs, which should keep you busy, and they also have low health so they are pretty easy to kill.) If you are an archer, this is the best possible SP farming spot in the game. If you're not an archer, oh well you wont be able to use a bow, but still with a sos weapon i think u'd be better of there, no need to delevel on daily basis, no need to run around for next mob. Just my 2 cents :)

Personally im SP Farming at lvl52 with sos+5 bow, over at penon fighters.
I really didnt plan on SP farming on this char, but i got my hands on a sos+5 and figured since i probably wont have sos at lvl70 i might aswell get it over with ^_^

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well im going to be sword/shield, so deleveling bow from lvl 32 would be a pain, but from lvl 7, its easy as cake.

also, i can roll threw bandit archer's. i 1 hit them, so i can cover a large area, move maybe 4 feet either way and there is any area that spawns like 10, so i constantly have one to click and kill..

the only thing that bugs me, is i find it hard to do that for 3 hours straight, i mean i dont have time to chat with guild, or talk on aim. but oh well. if i want to get it done fast, then its what i have to do.

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lvl 52 farm for FTW

My suggestion is just keep a 3+ gap untill 52 (9 level ) the farm on phenons for one level and walk down your gap, you should be fine

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i'm lv18 with a glavie SOS and i spend 1 hour only to get 100sp... wtf i'm doing wrong? why everybody says that u get 1k sp in 1 hour?? DAMIT!!

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I dont get how you guys can Farm with bandit archers. Its a pain to kill them, even with one hit or two. Bandit archers are so spread out. I dont know, maybe im looking at the wrong places. I've been killing tigers at lvl 16 and delvl-ing and it is a pain to delvl =(. I like farming with tigers becuase they all come after you and i get about 4-7 tigers around me all the time. The thing is, it doesnt seem very efficient to farm that way. I'm not getting a lot of SP, i get about 100 every 45mins.

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Well im going to disagree with Tallrik

I farmed at flowers when i was 32-36 and I delvled myself constantly. You don't get as much sp per hour as you do in the den. Same thing for penons. Get all your farming done all at once and you won't have to do it ever again. That suggestion should only stand if you've played the game alrdy and this isn't your first char. Sure, killing archers for 3 hours a day for X amount of days is a pain, but honestly, it's no different from grinding anything else out there. Actually, there is a difference, you get shitloads more SP than you would normally. If you are farming, you are going to be at a 9 gap or maybe up to 5 gap. That means your skills aren't up to date and it'll be harder for you to kill mobs around your level.

@ davwtram: =P how are archers so spread apart? Im constantly killing archers that are around me since they respawn so g'dam fast. Im constantly spinning my point of view to look for more archers to kill. If you say you get 100 sp every 45 min, i get 600 sp every 60 min. I barely use hp pots and the only thing i use alot of are mp pots. I go through 3 stacks of small mp pots every run.

@ bandinopla: What are you farming on? What level gap are you using? If you aren't using a 9 lvl gap, you won't be getting as much sp as I am. Also, with bow, you don't have to move much. With glavie, i'm going to guess you farm on bandits instead of the archers. They take longer to respawn and not as many spawn, either.

@Gob: I hope I answered your question this time around =) I don't know if you have your keyboard settings this way, but I find that putting my imbue in my mouse quick slot is a huge advantage. Because I then change my mouse quick slot hotkey to space bar and I designate the number 2 on my keyboard as autoattack. Pretty much all I have to do is click an archer, press space bar for imbue and press number 2 to attack and look for the next one, wash and repeat. Makes things alot faster, instead of having to double click it. =)

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@ davwtram: =P how are archers so spread apart? Im constantly killing archers that are around me since they respawn so g'dam fast. Im constantly spinning my point of view to look for more archers to kill. If you say you get 100 sp every 45 min, i get 600 sp every 60 min. I barely use hp pots and the only thing i use alot of are mp pots. I go through 3 stacks of small mp pots every run.




Where are you farming at exactly? I need to know a good spot.

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Ok, i just got back from trying out bandit archers. Im getting 120sp each.(im lvl 17) I dont know how your getting 600 in a hour. I manage to get 77 in 30 mins. It feels the same as farming with tigers but tigers are more fun.

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The spot that I farm in is actually inside the bandit den stronghold. Inside that building thing. You can't miss it when you go in through the gate. At lv 17 i get about 130 sxp when in a full party of 4. I kill 1 in a normal attack w/ imbue.

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@ bandinopla: What are you farming on? What level gap are you using? If you aren't using a 9 lvl gap, you won't be getting as much sp as I am. Also, with bow, you don't have to move much. With glavie, i'm going to guess you farm on bandits instead of the archers. They take longer to respawn and not as many spawn, either.


i'm lv18 SOS lv16 farming on East ferry workers, since lvl16. Getting 100sp per hour. 241sxp each kill. 9lvls gap. (lv9 skills)

... so is kinda impossible to make 1k in 1 hour... unles they give me like 500sxp... lol, but only champions give that... so...

and i'm not using Tickets, or botting or anything, i'm a normal player... the ppl that get 1k make me think if they are getting a little of... extra help :banghead:

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i have a question...i started sp farming till lvl 16..then i put my skills up to fight bandits and what not..at lvl 17 i then started gappin to get more sp then exp but i still gettin more exp cuz gap isnt as much..i am currently lvl 19 bout to be 20 when the check up on game is over..what can i do? is it too late to get more sp at my lvl? and please somebody tell me what is a gold ticket and where can i find it?...i definately cant do the som thing cuz i dont have that much money for all that ...please reply really soon...thank you..

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well i will for sure have a gold ticket. i have used a gold ticket since my first char was lvl 18. also sport a money just for gold pickup on farming. i cant 1 hit archer's since i have a total of +6str, and +3 int from my equipment *i know, i need better farming gear* you said alot, but didnt answer my biggest question, should i stay lvl 16, or just lvl untill i can get a full degree 3 "farming set"
also, im fairly sure they will raise the max masteries once they raise the lvl cap.


edit: also, i was planing on doing sword/shield due to the blocking, and extra protection from the shield.

but whats best for hybrid nuker? spear, or shield/sword?

http://www.silkroadforums.com/viewtopic.php?t=9978
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Best way to farm?

Here are your factors to consider:

Spawn - Fast spawn is needed for fastest farming.

Weapon - A good weapon compared to the mob level to kill fast for fastest farming.

Farming level-Low level - Your character is low level. Low level drops. Lots of delevelling. Cheaper weapons. Faster to kill.
-High level - Your character is higher level. Higher level drops. Less or no deleveling. More expensive weapons. Takes longer to kill.

STR vs INT farmer:
STR kills slower (best to farm earlier)
INT kills faster (about twice as fast; one hit vs two hits from STR)

Farming at 16:
SOS BOW 16+3 vs level 16 Bandit Archer (fast spawn). STR SOS BOW 16+3 kills Bandit Archer in 3 (?) hits or less. INT SOS BOW 16+3 kills Bandit Archer in 2 (?) hits or less. From 16-18 you will gain 1600 + 1900 SP or about 3500 SP TOTAL, then you have to delevel 100 times to rinse and repeat.

Without Gold Ticket: 1 mob = 1/2 SP
2 hits ; 2 seconds * 7000 mobs = 14,000 seconds = 3.88 hours
100 devels * 10 seconds = 1000 seconds = 0.27 Hours
TOTAL: 3.88 + 0.27 is about 5 hours for 3500 SP
EDIT: This was a really rough estimate and a more practical SP/hour is 550-600 SP/hour (JianMin's input)

Farming at 32:
SOS BOW 32+3 vs level 36 Flowers (if you find a triangle spawn it's decent). From my experince (it's been awhile), INT REGULAR 35+3 BOW takes about 5 hits to kill a Flower. An INT SOS BOW 32+3 should kill a flower in 4-5 hits as well. Spawn might empty out sometimes (not sure). With 9 gap, you will make 9k-12k+ SP per level from 32 to 35. Killing higher level mobs will give you an SP bonus.

Farming at 52:
SOS BOW 52+3 vs level 51/52 Ishades (very similar to Flowers, tad faster spawn, find a good triangle). From my experience, an INT BOW 52+3 kills an Isahde in about 5 hits. An INT SOS BOW 52+3 takes 3-4 hits and will gain 27k-33k sp per level from 52 to 56.

5 hits ; 5 seconds * 18000 mobs = 90,000 seconds = 25 hours
TOTAL = 25 hours for 9k SP
EDIT: SOS BOW 52+5 takes 3 hits (Tallrik's input)

SOM weapons might cut time by 1/3
SOSun weapons might cut time by 1/2


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Without Gold Ticket: 1 mob = 1/2 SP
2 hits ; 2 seconds * 7000 mobs = 14,000 seconds = 3.88 hours
100 devels * 10 seconds = 1000 seconds = 0.27 Hours
TOTAL: 3.88 + 0.27 is about 5 hours for 3500 SP



if u discount the walking to an enemy, guying pots... going to city and come back... eat... lol. in reality a normal player will get 100sp in 1 hour of NORMAL hunting. mabe in 45 min, peneding on the walking ... but that just e, i'm pure STR wiht lv9 skills

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Farming at 52:
SOS BOW 52+3 vs level 51/52 Ishades (very similar to Flowers, tad faster spawn, find a good triangle). From my experience, an INT BOW 56+3 kills an Isahde in about 5 hits. An INT SOS BOW 52+3 should be about the same and will gain 27k-33k sp per level from 52 to 56.

5 hits ; 5 seconds * 18000 mobs = 90,000 seconds = 25 hours
TOTAL = 25 hours for 9k SP


Im lvl52 STR BOW, using 52+5 SOS bow, i 3-hit them :)

Btw i don't think those calculations are accurate, since i can't find a good spot for fast spawning ishades/hashades (spent a week trying exping all over the place +_+) where they spawn faster than i can kill, resulting in me having to run around :( i moved to penons/sonars

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