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 Post subject: HYBRID SPEAR - FIRE OR LIGHT IMBUE??
PostPosted: Sat Feb 09, 2008 8:29 pm 
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i have a lvl 80 gap 9 int hybrid spear,

spear hybrid 87% mag naked
12,030 hp ~~ 18,216 mp
dressed 70% phy 102% mag

and have been reading the forum to figure out what masteries to set up for full farm 80 and 90.

now ive been finding dificult to understand why are people chosing to use the light imbue instead of the stronger fire imbue even as a lvl 80 full farm. i do understand light should be maxed out for the increase % in mag damag, wich has to be said, only grows 1% every 10 levels. but why go with the imbue? not only does it do less damage, the spectrum of damage gets wider and makes so many dramatic changes in your hits. ive always been a fatihfull user of the fire imbue, so since im farming, decided to get the light imbue and try it myself... and when i come to realize so many are using light, i just don't get it...

fire has a higher and smaller spectrum, so it hits more and its constant,

so most people suggest building 90 spear 90 fire 90 light 30 cold (light imbue)

now cold 30 means a 23% snow
me personally i would not lower ice from 40 that means a 30% snow.

i dont think snow shield is a skill an int wants to try and live without, the ability to increase defenses in such a way just is indispensable for demanding situations in the game like having 2 o 3 three players of the opposite job wanting to rip u apart.

so i need a 90 90 80 40 build and perhaps even a 100 100 60 40 build

so know im trying to decide if fire or light should be maxed out with he spear as main imbue and nukes. please keep in mind my main pvp activity is imbued spear attacks linked by nukes, so having maxed spear skills is a must. thx : D


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 Post subject: Re: HYBRID SPEAR - FIRE OR LIGHT IMBUE??
PostPosted: Sat Feb 09, 2008 10:14 pm 
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freeskill wrote:
i have a lvl 80 gap 9 int hybrid spear,

spear hybrid 87% mag naked
12,030 hp ~~ 18,216 mp
dressed 70% phy 102% mag

and have been reading the forum to figure out what masteries to set up for full farm 80 and 90.

now ive been finding dificult to understand why are people chosing to use the light imbue instead of the stronger fire imbue even as a lvl 80 full farm. i do understand light should be maxed out for the increase % in mag damag, wich has to be said, only grows 1% every 10 levels. but why go with the imbue? not only does it do less damage, the spectrum of damage gets wider and makes so many dramatic changes in your hits. ive always been a fatihfull user of the fire imbue, so since im farming, decided to get the light imbue and try it myself... and when i come to realize so many are using light, i just don't get it...

people are ONLY chosing light imbue when they don't have a high fire level. So they take light imbue if fire isn't their main three

fire has a higher and smaller spectrum, so it hits more and its constant,

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so most people suggest building 90 spear 90 fire 90 light 30 cold (light imbue)
no, most people suggest building 90 spear, 90 light, 90 cold, 30 fire
now cold 30 means a 23% snow this means a 60% snow shield (or 55% don't know) on level 90
me personally i would not lower ice from 40 that means a 30% snow.

i dont think snow shield is a skill an int wants to try and live without, the ability to increase defenses in such a way just is indispensable for demanding situations in the game like having 2 o 3 three players of the opposite job wanting to rip u apart.

so i need a 90 90 80 40 build and perhaps even a 100 100 60 40 build

so know im trying to decide if fire or light should be maxed out with he spear as main imbue and nukes. please keep in mind my main pvp activity is imbued spear attacks linked by nukes, so having maxed spear skills is a must. thx : D

imo there are 2 choices:
fire build:
90 weap
90 fire
70 light (you won't really bennefit from having a higher light, just sumthing liike 2% mag attack, couple of feet phantom and a few % running speed along with some parry lol
50 ice (could take 80 light and 40 ice ofcourse)

light build:
90 weap
90 light
90 cold
30 fire

just my 00,02 cents

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 Post subject: Re: HYBRID SPEAR - FIRE OR LIGHT IMBUE??
PostPosted: Sat Feb 09, 2008 10:30 pm 
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take the 2nd build he told you you need def for sure even though your hybrid + fire isnt that all important since your hybrid and use your weapon skills a little more

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 Post subject: Re: HYBRID SPEAR - FIRE OR LIGHT IMBUE??
PostPosted: Sun Feb 10, 2008 4:46 am 
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i have the same problem....i have hybrid int spearman....naked it has mag balance 85% ohys 61%

with equipments it has 102% mag balance and 69% phys balance...

right now im on light imbue..

heux 80,light 80,cold 72,fire 68...im trying ti switch back to fire imbue and nukes...

i wanna make fire 80,light and cold 70....

i have the same problem with dmg...too big ocilation in it....one tim ei hit like 7k nuke...other time 10k nuke....it means a lot that 3k difference....with a fire i would hit like 8-9.5k or something...it means a lot...

i was planing to have the next build on lvl 90 weap 90,fire 90,cold 60,light 60...

i would have on light 15% mag atack increased instead of 18%....and i would have nice phys defense and snow shield on 40%...which is also nice....on lvl 80 50% snow shield for hybrid is too hard....no maa for atacks.on lvl 90 50% shoudl be easier to get for hybrids....ut 40% is still more then enough...you wont be without mana in 1vs1 fights...

there is also a second question...since your mag balance will be higher on lvl 90 and you will have ore int...u may choose like 90 light,90 weapon,cold 90,and fire 30...and to be in garms....but that is probably the best build for pure ints...since they can do nice dmg with cold nukes and use light ones....for hybrids its a bit complicated...

i am considering to switch to sword thou...more defense...block.....gives bleed+division which make your opponent a lot weaker...so u can do massive dmg on him..with a spear and light imbue on lvl 80 i was having a trouble to kill full str glavie...with +4 full blue garm set...
maybe if i switch fire back to 80 it would be easier...who knows...we shall see

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 Post subject: Re: HYBRID SPEAR - FIRE OR LIGHT IMBUE??
PostPosted: Sun Feb 10, 2008 4:49 am 
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p.s. sorry for missing letters in some words in previous post....it is 6 o clock in the morning now....havent slept whole night(had a night out with some friends)i will fix it tommorow im to tired to do it atm....cheers

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 Post subject: Re: HYBRID SPEAR - FIRE OR LIGHT IMBUE??
PostPosted: Sun Feb 10, 2008 6:16 am 
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i want to ask all forumers opinion...last time ill build 1:2(level 62) int hybrid spear/fire/light...

if i were to bring this char to 80 or 90 cap...should 1:2 go lower damage imbue like light/ice or stay with fire?


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 Post subject: Re: HYBRID SPEAR - FIRE OR LIGHT IMBUE??
PostPosted: Sun Feb 10, 2008 7:11 am 
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take the second build..u win more with that anyways....Lightnukes are stonger and u ned the magic buff more than a Pure Int seeing that ur Hybrid...fire embue is stinger but the nukes are weaker.the only thing u lose with the second build mention is immnity to a mention....

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 Post subject: Re: HYBRID SPEAR - FIRE OR LIGHT IMBUE??
PostPosted: Sun Feb 10, 2008 6:47 pm 
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ok, i think i will go with:

90 heuksal 90 fire 70 light 50 cold

it just speaks to me as a build that will do some major damage and retain a 33% snow shield. it would only loose 2% magical damage, but maintain the 18% physical damage and the tougher imbue. a bit less speed but a more constant still intense damage in both spear and nuke attacks.

the only problem i see with this build is what would come next at cap 100. with every cap the loss of magical damage % grows, having to share its 100 points with cold, and knowing that lowering cold below 40 means saying goodbye to a functional snow shield. this means:

100 100 60 40 = 4 % less mag damage, 30 snow

then it becomes clear that 100 spear 100 light has some meaing to it, so even though i do think the above fire build will be great for cap 90, i would have to do some serious skill downgrade to get fire from 90 to 60, or even 40 for the lvl 100 cap.

any ideas on how to aproach this?

should i prepare for cap 100, should i just do the build i think will work best at 90...

thanks for comments!


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 Post subject: Re: HYBRID SPEAR - FIRE OR LIGHT IMBUE??
PostPosted: Sun Feb 10, 2008 8:04 pm 
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wow dude,consider this.....they will raised cap 80-90 in 2-3 monhts.....skills on lvl 90 will come 6 months after the cap 90 comes....so it is like 8-9 months....as for lvl 100 we are talking around period pffff 1.5 year or something....skils for that lvl will probably come in 2 years then...so it is a long road....who knows will u play till then.....

as for my opinion ill probably bring this chinese to lvl 90..(maybe,who knows)....

but if i still have the wish to play ill pick some euro char....probably rogue or wizzard,,im not sure yet...2 masteries for euro are more then enough...

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 Post subject: Re: HYBRID SPEAR - FIRE OR LIGHT IMBUE??
PostPosted: Sun Feb 10, 2008 8:13 pm 
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so true,

probably best to go with and euro build and say good bye to all the trouble of balancing 300 masteries between 3 or 4 trees so it doesnt have mayor flaws. : )


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