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Antione
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Post subject:  Posted: Mon May 22, 2006 2:34 pm |
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vanom wrote: strike_freedom wrote: Guys... stop arguing like hell or this site will go down again! Anyway you aren't a nuker yet, it is a build type, but until you get those nukes, you don't qualify for that build type. And XuChu, stop saying he's brainwashing people! He's only giving them advice... They don't have to listen if they don't want to, so just stop arguing people... I don't want this site going down again. Strength fire bladers really are the best build in the game when they're at higher lvls: I got pwned by a pure strength blader who was a lvl lower than me even though I'm pure strength glaive, but I've pwned all hybrids my lvl so far, so hybrids really are weak, especially 1:1 hybrids. Their HP is always so low that I can pwn them in 2 skills. They really don't have the HP to hold out. Listen, and listen good, DON'T GO THE 1:1 HYBRID PATH WHATEVER YOU DO, EVEN 2:1 ISN'T SO BAD! For me, I just wanna pwn other people, but I'm already glaive and it's too late for me to go to blade, so I'm just stuck here  But glaive is good enough for me to pwn monsters   may u say what lvl u are and how u knew that the blader was a lvl below u? when i 1vs1 pvp we party eachother first to see what lvl each other are. dur.
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Olympus: LVL 6X Pure Str Bow/Fire/Cold/Light
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Aege: LVL 5X Pure Int Sword/Fire/Cold/Light
Job: LVL 3 Trader LVL 2 Hunter LVL 2 Thief
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Venice: LVL 4X Pure Int Spear/Fire/Cold/Light
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ReaXion
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Post subject: Posted: Tue May 23, 2006 2:26 pm |
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Ryoko wrote: I agree; the defense bonus on ice passive is almost worthless.
This is because its a fixed number like 2-4-6, instead of a %
Maybe good for uber low levels where 6 defense might make a difference.
If it was a % bonus like everything else, it could rule.
I have to disagree with past assertions from fly and Ryoko. I'm sure everyone knows of [_Revolution_]xX_Troy_Xx... He's THE strongest build in all of Xian right now. He's pure str, fire, glavie. BUT he uses the cold passives, and armor... why? To give him the defining advantage of all the other STR's out there. And hes pretty much crushed them all. From the pure str, fire, blade, to the fulll INT nuker. He is the strongest out there ATM.
So to say that cold is totally worthless, is not totally true. It can be worth something, you just have to get it to the point that it is worth something.
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Post subject: Posted: Tue May 23, 2006 9:30 pm |
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Its more like the ice defense/passive is useless UNTIL 60. If maxed, thats like wearing an extra piece of armor. 55 buff + 42 passive 
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Post subject: Posted: Wed May 24, 2006 12:53 am |
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i was lvl 39 and that guy was 38... i think... i can't remember 
Anyway now i'm lvl 41(42 to be tomorrow)
And sry but I don't read that message at the bottom, so I didn't know you were a nuker yet.
I had most of my torsos elixed, but he had an SOS blade (mine is lvl 38 +3 glaive), a high block ratio shield(i think it was also SOS), and couple more SOS torsos. However, my stuff are updated. SOS is only the minimum lvl and it's just +5. For example, there aren't any SOS blades that are lvl 35, because the lowest 5 degree blade is lvl 32. There are absolutely NO lvl 35 blades.
Shields can simply outlast their opponents easily. Remember that even though the difference between the power of the glaives and the blades increase, the shields also get better with each new one. Imagine a lvl 64 shield with 18 block ratio, and the passive skill adds 7 blocking ratio to the shield. What do you get? 25 BLOCK RATIO!!! That's like OMG! 25% (if 1 block ratio = 1%) of the hits you get will be blocked. The damage of glaives aren't 25% higher, and neither are their HPs
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Antione
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Post subject: Posted: Wed May 24, 2006 1:40 pm |
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i am sword/shield nuker, i've got a BR 19 shield and passive lvl 3, that is almost a 25 % br, or i could use my 21 block ratio lvl 16 sos and have 24% br,
Also, the passive only goes up to lvl 60 i believe......
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Aege: LVL 5X Pure Int Sword/Fire/Cold/Light
Job: LVL 3 Trader LVL 2 Hunter LVL 2 Thief
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Post subject: Posted: Wed May 24, 2006 9:24 pm |
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ReaXion wrote: Ryoko wrote: I agree; the defense bonus on ice passive is almost worthless.
This is because its a fixed number like 2-4-6, instead of a %
Maybe good for uber low levels where 6 defense might make a difference.
If it was a % bonus like everything else, it could rule. I have to disagree with past assertions from fly and Ryoko. I'm sure everyone knows of [_Revolution_]xX_Troy_Xx... He's THE strongest build in all of Xian right now. He's pure str, fire, glavie. BUT he uses the cold passives, and armor... why? To give him the defining advantage of all the other STR's out there. And hes pretty much crushed them all. From the pure str, fire, blade, to the fulll INT nuker. He is the strongest out there ATM. So to say that cold is totally worthless, is not totally true. It can be worth something, you just have to get it to the point that it is worth something. What makes you say he is the strongest? I'm willing to bet he won't beat poltergiest from GoD guild or BillyHam.
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strike_freedom
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Post subject: Posted: Thu May 25, 2006 3:13 am |
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OK... first off... WHO THE HELL IS xX_Troy_Xx? He's in Xian, SO WHY THE HELL WOULD I KNOW HIM WHEN I'M IN TROY??? EVERYONE KNOWS HIM? SORRY I DON'T DAMMIT! I'm sure there are TRILLIONS of people who don't know who the hell that guy is!!! Heard of LanT? NO! Reason? He/she(in a female character, but I have no idea if it's a guy or a girl in real life) is the most infamous thief in Troy who pwned all the unique monsters and became famous, and almost everyone in Troy fears him/her. But THE HELL DO YOU KNOW HIM/HER??? OF COURSE YOU DON'T!!! Geez... sometimes people just have no common sense...
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strike_freedom
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Post subject: Posted: Thu May 25, 2006 8:05 pm |
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No... I don't think so... he said everyone
Quote: I'm sure everyone knows of [_Revolution_]xX_Troy_Xx... He's THE strongest build in all of Xian right now
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Antione
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Post subject: Posted: Fri May 26, 2006 7:34 pm |
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at later lvls the ice defense buff and passive add up to about 85 defense
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Olympus: LVL 6X Pure Str Bow/Fire/Cold/Light
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Aege: LVL 5X Pure Int Sword/Fire/Cold/Light
Job: LVL 3 Trader LVL 2 Hunter LVL 2 Thief
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strike_freedom
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Post subject: Posted: Sat May 27, 2006 4:20 am |
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Yes, however, perhaps you would like to consider your total mastery lvl? Say 70 for weapon, 70 for lightning(grasswalk), 70 for maybe force(rez, which SOMEONE has to learn or nobody gets rez at all...), fire(for damage, OBVIOUSLY), 20 masteries for ice remain... that enough for 80 total? Don't think so... of course, that's the total for now, and apparently KSRO hasn't had any new skills above 70 yet, and when they do, I'm quite sure they'll raise the total mastery lvl allowed... well until then, you don't know...
P.S: These are just examples... you could take off that force mastery and sub ice into there instead...
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Aya
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Post subject: Posted: Sat May 27, 2006 11:40 am |
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they will not raise the mastery limit, why? because it will encourage diversity in builds and not having same build played by 80% of the players.
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strike_freedom
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Post subject: Posted: Sat May 27, 2006 8:58 pm |
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I said if they added new skills... did you not read? And I don't mean by another 300, maybe just by a little bit
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Post subject: Posted: Sun May 28, 2006 1:01 pm |
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I have a question:
The nuker guide doesn't say which skills to level. I want to know which weapon and which ligthening and fire skill to level.
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Aya
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Post subject: Posted: Sun May 28, 2006 1:14 pm |
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SnowHime wrote: I have a question:
The nuker guide doesn't say which skills to level. I want to know which weapon and which ligthening and fire skill to level.
i can provide you this guide http://sro.mmosite.com/guides/build/build5.shtml
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strike_freedom
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Post subject: Posted: Sun May 28, 2006 8:51 pm |
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I said if they were going to add new skills, which they probably wont', cos there's already enough weapon skills!!! Look... 5 chain spear moves, 3 soul spears, 3 annihilating spears, 5 blade chain etc.
There're already enough skills to go around, so I don't think they'll have more skills, but if they add more skills in, they HAVE to raise it
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Blue Sword
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Post subject: Posted: Thu Jun 01, 2006 10:10 pm |
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i have a question, that guide on that link that you posted says that i have to train in blade, but the guide posted at the beginning of this thread says that i should use Spear/Blade/Shield
Which one should i go with to make a good nuker??? 
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Avalanche
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Post subject: Posted: Fri Jun 16, 2006 8:46 pm |
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spear and sword are nuker weapons
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folkl0re
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Post subject: Posted: Mon Jun 26, 2006 8:24 am |
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I think a Lightning nuker is better ^_^
Lvl 7x Troy
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Sdub121
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Post subject: Posted: Tue Jun 27, 2006 7:08 pm |
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Hey Fly My Guild Leader said he owned u yesterday he nuked your ass
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Post subject: Posted: Sat Jul 01, 2006 8:50 am |
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Sdub121 wrote: Hey Fly My Guild Leader said he owned u yesterday he nuked your ass
thats probably the other Fly lol theres 2.......................
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Post subject: Posted: Sun Jul 02, 2006 9:41 pm |
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so ur saying that u wont need either the 7% extra block rate or the 1024 hp bonus at lvl 60? wont u seem kinda weak then?
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paradisebird
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Post subject: Posted: Mon Jul 03, 2006 11:24 pm |
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can pls someone say which build is definitivly better? der nuke guide oder the fire guide? i can't decide
i also hope a reply from fly
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strike_freedom
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Post subject: Posted: Wed Jul 05, 2006 6:23 pm |
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HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!!!
Can you imagine?
I GOT KICKED OUT OF MY GUILD BY MY OWN BROTHER!!!
He scrolled up from the other guy and then pressed withdraw
Next thing that happens, BOOM!!!
I'm out of the guild...
My guild is _NyghtBreed_, Troy server, and we are a botter free guild at lvl 5
Or rather my old guild...
Still in good terms with them
Ok anyway i'll cut the crap
Here's the thing, there are supposed to be new skills when the cap is raised again, I was wrong that there weren't gonna be anymore
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Post subject: Posted: Fri Jul 07, 2006 12:47 am |
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So your characters if cuked up already when you're at lvl 20 and have put all your stuff into the INT, except for lets say... about 5 points?
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Post subject: Posted: Fri Jul 07, 2006 12:49 am |
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Post subject: Posted: Sat Jul 15, 2006 6:28 pm |
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So, simple question. Fire or Lightning nuker?
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Post subject: Posted: Sat Jul 15, 2006 7:03 pm |
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I suggest both.
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