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one extra: total sp required for build?



4 masteries [70 heuksal 80 Fire 70 Light 64or70 Ice] all usefull skills

220k SP needed.. i tink Master_Wong is a hardcore SP farmer and lvler..

i need 50k SP more :P

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I believe I found my next character's build. :D Very nice guide Wong, very nice indeed.

gratz. It's an excellent build.

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Just to bump it up this thread (otherwise I would edit it =)

I dont see the lion shout and concentration series @ the lightning tree.

No need for those as a hybrid int?



lion shout is an OK skills for pure INT; fast, ranged and fast cooldown [well not very fast].. i tink for hybrid better use ghost spear [hi % dmg] better than lion shout series; coz LS is based on mag % same as nukes.. plus all LS series got 100% [all books] dmg meanwhile ghostspear 220%+.. use LS as backup skills..

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Just to bump it up this thread (otherwise I would edit it =)

I dont see the lion shout and concentration series @ the lightning tree.

No need for those as a hybrid int?



lion shout is an OK skills for pure INT; fast, ranged and fast cooldown [well not very fast].. i tink for hybrid better use ghost spear [hi % dmg] better than lion shout series; coz LS is based on mag % same as nukes.. plus all LS series got 100% [all books] dmg meanwhile ghostspear 220%+.. use LS as backup skills..

ghost spear is better for pure int too dmg-wise. Lion shout though, unlike ghost spear, is ranged. Personally, I'm not a great fan of lion shout.

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thank v much wong, ive been searching for something like this since ages.. Dont u get outdamaged easily by pure ints?

int-heavy hybrids are all about survivability, your dmg is useless when you get one-hit KOed by glavie guys


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XMoshe wrote:
Just to bump it up this thread (otherwise I would edit it =)

I dont see the lion shout and concentration series @ the lightning tree.

No need for those as a hybrid int?



lion shout is an OK skills for pure INT; fast, ranged and fast cooldown [well not very fast].. i tink for hybrid better use ghost spear [hi % dmg] better than lion shout series; coz LS is based on mag % same as nukes.. plus all LS series got 100% [all books] dmg meanwhile ghostspear 220%+.. use LS as backup skills..

ghost spear is better for pure int too dmg-wise. Lion shout though, unlike ghost spear, is ranged. Personally, I'm not a great fan of lion shout.


well, yes; like i mention in my previous post for PvE mostly.. hybrid should have tons of HP compared to pure INT.. tats mean hybrid build can tank more.. but i preffer LS [not a big fan oso] coz u still can hit hard witout ur imbue coz its INT base dmg.. for PvP ghost spear is the best compare to LS..

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thx wicked_game...any info about the concentration series? usefull or crap for int hybrid

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thx wicked_game...any info about the concentration series? usefull or crap for int hybrid

up parry ratio! It's awesome if you got the sp for any build cuz opponent does less dmg! :D

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thx wicked_game...any info about the concentration series? usefull or crap for int hybrid

up parry ratio! It's awesome if you got the sp for any build cuz opponent does less dmg! :D


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Should I max out book 1 of Fire Nuke?

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no as you only need it level 1 to get book 2 max that and book 3

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Should I max out book 1 of Fire Nuke?


rite now my fire nuke book 1 is lvl 12; u save more MP pots compare book 2.. it's still usefull till u lvl 57 but after tat just use book 2 and book 2 light coz u need more dmg while lvling on yetis and devil yetis..

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no as you only need it level 1 to get book 2 max that and book 3

According to this the first fire nuke maxed does more damage than a maxed 3rd book?

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book 1 dont do more damage then book 2/3

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no as you only need it level 1 to get book 2 max that and book 3

According to this the first fire nuke maxed does more damage than a maxed 3rd book?


book 1 ???-???(250%) and max at lvl 64, book 2 ???-???(300%) max at 69 AND book 3 ???-???(300%) max at 68.. so which 1 better at lvl 70? :roll:

book 3 for WIDE AOE.. 6meters/5target?

nukers usually use fire nuke book 2 and light nuke book 2.. fire book 3 just for back up or show off.. nice effect thou.. :D

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thanks, im farming for this build atm. I just needed to know what skills

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You know what would be really cool if you was to really break it down, like having the hp/mp stats and all that for the lvl cap of 80 and having the right amounts of stat pts ex

80 lvl cap
9000/17000 hp/mp

175/350 str/int

now that would be very helpful for the noobies, like myself hehe

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thanks, im farming for this build atm. I just needed to know what skills


go with the skills i listed and then add others that YOU want

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You know what would be really cool if you was to really break it down, like having the hp/mp stats and all that for the lvl cap of 80 and having the right amounts of stat pts ex

80 lvl cap
9000/17000 hp/mp

175/350 str/int

now that would be very helpful for the noobies, like myself hehe



hybrid 2:1 [INT:STR]; start from lvl 1 till lvl 80.. i tink tat is wat Master_Wong doing.. total stats, HP and MP at lvl 80 i dont know..

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PR-Solja wrote:
You know what would be really cool if you was to really break it down, like having the hp/mp stats and all that for the lvl cap of 80 and having the right amounts of stat pts ex

80 lvl cap
9000/17000 hp/mp

175/350 str/int

now that would be very helpful for the noobies, like myself hehe



hybrid 2:1 [INT:STR]; start from lvl 1 till lvl 80.. i tink tat is wat Master_Wong doing.. total stats, HP and MP at lvl 80 i dont know..


yep hybrid all the way from 1-62

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Is it still "justified" to nuke with a 2-1 hybrid?
Because your mag balance will never be really high.
Wouldn't it be better to focus more on weaponskills?

I recentlly changed my build to this one and and 3x, I feel like I burn even more MP pots as with a full int, because the nukes are quite potdemanding.


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nice guide but im planning to go sword/shield instead of spear.

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Is it still "justified" to nuke with a 2-1 hybrid?
Because your mag balance will never be really high.
Wouldn't it be better to focus more on weaponskills?

I recentlly changed my build to this one and and 3x, I feel like I burn even more MP pots as with a full int, because the nukes are quite potdemanding.


i can 2 hit mobs with nuke and 2 hit mobs with weapon skills so in all fairness dont matter except nukes have a better aoe so i prefer to use them

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Is it still "justified" to nuke with a 2-1 hybrid?
Because your mag balance will never be really high.
Wouldn't it be better to focus more on weaponskills?

I recentlly changed my build to this one and and 3x, I feel like I burn even more MP pots as with a full int, because the nukes are quite potdemanding.


from wat i understand.. u'll doing higher dmg than STR and less dmg than pure INT.. u can tank more coz ur HP and spear usually have higher CRITICAL.. dmg from critical no double as pure STR does but atleast higher than pure INT does..

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i agree with iguana.
the bk2 fire nuke is the strongest when it is raised compared to any nukes of the same level


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i agree with iguana.
the bk2 fire nuke is the strongest when it is raised compared to any nukes of the same level


yeah it sure makes a lot more damage 1on1 don`t forget light can hit a lot more targets with a great damage. Can`t imagine myself in jobs/grind without my light nuke even when it makes less damage vs 1 mob.


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Is it still "justified" to nuke with a 2-1 hybrid?
Because your mag balance will never be really high.
Wouldn't it be better to focus more on weaponskills?

I recentlly changed my build to this one and and 3x, I feel like I burn even more MP pots as with a full int, because the nukes are quite potdemanding.


from wat i understand.. u'll doing higher dmg than STR and less dmg than pure INT.. u can tank more coz ur HP and spear usually have higher CRITICAL.. dmg from critical no double as pure STR does but atleast higher than pure INT does..


2:1 int have lower crits then pure str but higher averag damage

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Master_wong wrote:
Wicked_Game wrote:
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Is it still "justified" to nuke with a 2-1 hybrid?
Because your mag balance will never be really high.
Wouldn't it be better to focus more on weaponskills?

I recentlly changed my build to this one and and 3x, I feel like I burn even more MP pots as with a full int, because the nukes are quite potdemanding.


from wat i understand.. u'll doing higher dmg than STR and less dmg than pure INT.. u can tank more coz ur HP and spear usually have higher CRITICAL.. dmg from critical no double as pure STR does but atleast higher than pure INT does..


2:1 int have lower crits then pure str but higher averag damage

Critted flying dragon lvl 1 > fire nuke lvl 1, but I need to increase the stats of my spear.


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takolin wrote:
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Is it still "justified" to nuke with a 2-1 hybrid?
Because your mag balance will never be really high.
Wouldn't it be better to focus more on weaponskills?

I recentlly changed my build to this one and and 3x, I feel like I burn even more MP pots as with a full int, because the nukes are quite potdemanding.


from wat i understand.. u'll doing higher dmg than STR and less dmg than pure INT.. u can tank more coz ur HP and spear usually have higher CRITICAL.. dmg from critical no double as pure STR does but atleast higher than pure INT does..


2:1 int have lower crits then pure str but higher averag damage

Critted flying dragon lvl 1 > fire nuke lvl 1, but I need to increase the stats of my spear.


for pure INT dmg from weapon skills + CRT just about 10% [or less] increase.. FOR me i wont spend SP on Flying Dragon [unless for fun].. 1st, the cooldown longer than 1st book of fire nuke EVEN longer than 2nd book of fire [??].. 2nd, 1st book of fire nuke done more everage dmg than FD and u dont need it after u get 2nd book.. 3rd, the frequent of CRITICAL dmg weapons dependent meaning need hi CRT weapon..

IMO, tats for full INT maybe same as INT hybrid oso..

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I'm 2-1 int hybrid.
I like flying dragon, less MP then fire nukes but cooldown isn't nice.
full int crit is less as nuke, Hybrid int is higher (atleast now).


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