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Wicked_Game
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Post subject: Posted: Wed Jan 10, 2007 2:31 am |
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Hello_Kitty wrote: PMed some questions.
one extra: total sp required for build?
4 masteries [70 heuksal 80 Fire 70 Light 64or70 Ice] all usefull skills
220k SP needed.. i tink Master_Wong is a hardcore SP farmer and lvler..
i need 50k SP more 
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IguanaRampage
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Post subject: Posted: Wed Jan 10, 2007 2:32 am |
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InviSniper wrote: I believe I found my next character's build.  Very nice guide Wong, very nice indeed.
gratz. It's an excellent build.
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Wicked_Game
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Post subject: Posted: Wed Jan 10, 2007 2:43 am |
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XMoshe wrote: Just to bump it up this thread (otherwise I would edit it =)
I dont see the lion shout and concentration series @ the lightning tree.
No need for those as a hybrid int?
lion shout is an OK skills for pure INT; fast, ranged and fast cooldown [well not very fast].. i tink for hybrid better use ghost spear [hi % dmg] better than lion shout series; coz LS is based on mag % same as nukes.. plus all LS series got 100% [all books] dmg meanwhile ghostspear 220%+.. use LS as backup skills..
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IguanaRampage
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Post subject: Posted: Wed Jan 10, 2007 2:44 am |
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Wicked_Game wrote: XMoshe wrote: Just to bump it up this thread (otherwise I would edit it =)
I dont see the lion shout and concentration series @ the lightning tree.
No need for those as a hybrid int? lion shout is an OK skills for pure INT; fast, ranged and fast cooldown [well not very fast].. i tink for hybrid better use ghost spear [hi % dmg] better than lion shout series; coz LS is based on mag % same as nukes.. plus all LS series got 100% [all books] dmg meanwhile ghostspear 220%+.. use LS as backup skills..
ghost spear is better for pure int too dmg-wise. Lion shout though, unlike ghost spear, is ranged. Personally, I'm not a great fan of lion shout.
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Post subject: Posted: Wed Jan 10, 2007 2:55 am |
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IceSworder wrote: thank v much wong, ive been searching for something like this since ages.. Dont u get outdamaged easily by pure ints?
int-heavy hybrids are all about survivability, your dmg is useless when you get one-hit KOed by glavie guys
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Wicked_Game
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Post subject: Posted: Wed Jan 10, 2007 3:10 am |
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IguanaRampage wrote: Wicked_Game wrote: XMoshe wrote: Just to bump it up this thread (otherwise I would edit it =)
I dont see the lion shout and concentration series @ the lightning tree.
No need for those as a hybrid int? lion shout is an OK skills for pure INT; fast, ranged and fast cooldown [well not very fast].. i tink for hybrid better use ghost spear [hi % dmg] better than lion shout series; coz LS is based on mag % same as nukes.. plus all LS series got 100% [all books] dmg meanwhile ghostspear 220%+.. use LS as backup skills.. ghost spear is better for pure int too dmg-wise. Lion shout though, unlike ghost spear, is ranged. Personally, I'm not a great fan of lion shout.
well, yes; like i mention in my previous post for PvE mostly.. hybrid should have tons of HP compared to pure INT.. tats mean hybrid build can tank more.. but i preffer LS [not a big fan oso] coz u still can hit hard witout ur imbue coz its INT base dmg.. for PvP ghost spear is the best compare to LS..
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XMoshe
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Post subject: Posted: Wed Jan 10, 2007 4:40 pm |
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thx wicked_game...any info about the concentration series? usefull or crap for int hybrid
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IguanaRampage
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Post subject: Posted: Wed Jan 10, 2007 8:26 pm |
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XMoshe wrote: thx wicked_game...any info about the concentration series? usefull or crap for int hybrid
up parry ratio! It's awesome if you got the sp for any build cuz opponent does less dmg! 
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[SD]Master_Wong
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Post subject: Posted: Wed Jan 10, 2007 10:11 pm |
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IguanaRampage wrote: XMoshe wrote: thx wicked_game...any info about the concentration series? usefull or crap for int hybrid up parry ratio! It's awesome if you got the sp for any build cuz opponent does less dmg! 
agreed
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Post subject: Posted: Wed Jan 10, 2007 11:36 pm |
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Should I max out book 1 of Fire Nuke?
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Post subject: Posted: Wed Jan 10, 2007 11:55 pm |
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no as you only need it level 1 to get book 2 max that and book 3
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Wicked_Game
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Post subject: Posted: Thu Jan 11, 2007 3:45 am |
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ohhenryx wrote: Should I max out book 1 of Fire Nuke?
rite now my fire nuke book 1 is lvl 12; u save more MP pots compare book 2.. it's still usefull till u lvl 57 but after tat just use book 2 and book 2 light coz u need more dmg while lvling on yetis and devil yetis..
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Post subject: Posted: Thu Jan 11, 2007 7:57 am |
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Master_wong wrote: no as you only need it level 1 to get book 2 max that and book 3
According to this the first fire nuke maxed does more damage than a maxed 3rd book?
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Post subject: Posted: Thu Jan 11, 2007 8:19 am |
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book 1 dont do more damage then book 2/3
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Wicked_Game
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Post subject: Posted: Thu Jan 11, 2007 1:47 pm |
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FK47 wrote: Master_wong wrote: no as you only need it level 1 to get book 2 max that and book 3 According to this the first fire nuke maxed does more damage than a maxed 3rd book?
book 1 ???-???(250%) and max at lvl 64, book 2 ???-???(300%) max at 69 AND book 3 ???-???(300%) max at 68.. so which 1 better at lvl 70?
book 3 for WIDE AOE.. 6meters/5target?
nukers usually use fire nuke book 2 and light nuke book 2.. fire book 3 just for back up or show off.. nice effect thou..
???-??? = plz reffer skills sections
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Synergy
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Post subject: Posted: Thu Jan 11, 2007 5:42 pm |
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thanks, im farming for this build atm. I just needed to know what skills
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Post subject: Posted: Thu Jan 11, 2007 6:44 pm |
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You know what would be really cool if you was to really break it down, like having the hp/mp stats and all that for the lvl cap of 80 and having the right amounts of stat pts ex
80 lvl cap
9000/17000 hp/mp
175/350 str/int
now that would be very helpful for the noobies, like myself hehe
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Post subject: Posted: Thu Jan 11, 2007 7:57 pm |
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Synergy wrote: thanks, im farming for this build atm. I just needed to know what skills
go with the skills i listed and then add others that YOU want
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Wicked_Game
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Post subject: Posted: Fri Jan 12, 2007 12:19 am |
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PR-Solja wrote: You know what would be really cool if you was to really break it down, like having the hp/mp stats and all that for the lvl cap of 80 and having the right amounts of stat pts ex
80 lvl cap 9000/17000 hp/mp
175/350 str/int
now that would be very helpful for the noobies, like myself hehe
hybrid 2:1 [INT:STR]; start from lvl 1 till lvl 80.. i tink tat is wat Master_Wong doing.. total stats, HP and MP at lvl 80 i dont know..
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Post subject: Posted: Fri Jan 12, 2007 8:14 am |
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Wicked_Game wrote: PR-Solja wrote: You know what would be really cool if you was to really break it down, like having the hp/mp stats and all that for the lvl cap of 80 and having the right amounts of stat pts ex
80 lvl cap 9000/17000 hp/mp
175/350 str/int
now that would be very helpful for the noobies, like myself hehe hybrid 2:1 [INT:STR]; start from lvl 1 till lvl 80.. i tink tat is wat Master_Wong doing.. total stats, HP and MP at lvl 80 i dont know..
yep hybrid all the way from 1-62
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Post subject: Posted: Sun Jan 14, 2007 9:57 am |
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Is it still "justified" to nuke with a 2-1 hybrid?
Because your mag balance will never be really high.
Wouldn't it be better to focus more on weaponskills?
I recentlly changed my build to this one and and 3x, I feel like I burn even more MP pots as with a full int, because the nukes are quite potdemanding.
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Post subject: Posted: Sun Jan 14, 2007 11:01 am |
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nice guide but im planning to go sword/shield instead of spear.
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Post subject: Posted: Sun Jan 14, 2007 2:47 pm |
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takolin wrote: Is it still "justified" to nuke with a 2-1 hybrid? Because your mag balance will never be really high. Wouldn't it be better to focus more on weaponskills?
I recentlly changed my build to this one and and 3x, I feel like I burn even more MP pots as with a full int, because the nukes are quite potdemanding.
i can 2 hit mobs with nuke and 2 hit mobs with weapon skills so in all fairness dont matter except nukes have a better aoe so i prefer to use them
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Post subject: Posted: Mon Jan 15, 2007 6:09 am |
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takolin wrote: Is it still "justified" to nuke with a 2-1 hybrid? Because your mag balance will never be really high. Wouldn't it be better to focus more on weaponskills?
I recentlly changed my build to this one and and 3x, I feel like I burn even more MP pots as with a full int, because the nukes are quite potdemanding.
from wat i understand.. u'll doing higher dmg than STR and less dmg than pure INT.. u can tank more coz ur HP and spear usually have higher CRITICAL.. dmg from critical no double as pure STR does but atleast higher than pure INT does..
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Post subject: Posted: Mon Jan 15, 2007 3:58 pm |
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i agree with iguana.
the bk2 fire nuke is the strongest when it is raised compared to any nukes of the same level
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Post subject: Posted: Tue Jan 16, 2007 4:58 am |
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howlparrot wrote: i agree with iguana. the bk2 fire nuke is the strongest when it is raised compared to any nukes of the same level
yeah it sure makes a lot more damage 1on1 don`t forget light can hit a lot more targets with a great damage. Can`t imagine myself in jobs/grind without my light nuke even when it makes less damage vs 1 mob.
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Post subject: Posted: Tue Jan 16, 2007 12:01 pm |
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Wicked_Game wrote: takolin wrote: Is it still "justified" to nuke with a 2-1 hybrid? Because your mag balance will never be really high. Wouldn't it be better to focus more on weaponskills?
I recentlly changed my build to this one and and 3x, I feel like I burn even more MP pots as with a full int, because the nukes are quite potdemanding. from wat i understand.. u'll doing higher dmg than STR and less dmg than pure INT.. u can tank more coz ur HP and spear usually have higher CRITICAL.. dmg from critical no double as pure STR does but atleast higher than pure INT does..
2:1 int have lower crits then pure str but higher averag damage
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Post subject: Posted: Tue Jan 16, 2007 5:00 pm |
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Master_wong wrote: Wicked_Game wrote: takolin wrote: Is it still "justified" to nuke with a 2-1 hybrid? Because your mag balance will never be really high. Wouldn't it be better to focus more on weaponskills?
I recentlly changed my build to this one and and 3x, I feel like I burn even more MP pots as with a full int, because the nukes are quite potdemanding. from wat i understand.. u'll doing higher dmg than STR and less dmg than pure INT.. u can tank more coz ur HP and spear usually have higher CRITICAL.. dmg from critical no double as pure STR does but atleast higher than pure INT does.. 2:1 int have lower crits then pure str but higher averag damage
Critted flying dragon lvl 1 > fire nuke lvl 1, but I need to increase the stats of my spear.
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Post subject: Posted: Wed Jan 17, 2007 7:01 am |
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takolin wrote: Master_wong wrote: Wicked_Game wrote: takolin wrote: Is it still "justified" to nuke with a 2-1 hybrid? Because your mag balance will never be really high. Wouldn't it be better to focus more on weaponskills?
I recentlly changed my build to this one and and 3x, I feel like I burn even more MP pots as with a full int, because the nukes are quite potdemanding. from wat i understand.. u'll doing higher dmg than STR and less dmg than pure INT.. u can tank more coz ur HP and spear usually have higher CRITICAL.. dmg from critical no double as pure STR does but atleast higher than pure INT does.. 2:1 int have lower crits then pure str but higher averag damage Critted flying dragon lvl 1 > fire nuke lvl 1, but I need to increase the stats of my spear.
for pure INT dmg from weapon skills + CRT just about 10% [or less] increase.. FOR me i wont spend SP on Flying Dragon [unless for fun].. 1st, the cooldown longer than 1st book of fire nuke EVEN longer than 2nd book of fire [??].. 2nd, 1st book of fire nuke done more everage dmg than FD and u dont need it after u get 2nd book.. 3rd, the frequent of CRITICAL dmg weapons dependent meaning need hi CRT weapon..
IMO, tats for full INT maybe same as INT hybrid oso..
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Post subject: Posted: Wed Jan 17, 2007 2:26 pm |
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I'm 2-1 int hybrid.
I like flying dragon, less MP then fire nukes but cooldown isn't nice.
full int crit is less as nuke, Hybrid int is higher (atleast now).
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