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Strwarrior
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Post subject: JoyMax Are Not Fair With Bow Users Posted: Tue Oct 28, 2008 12:01 pm |
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Hi all
i just wanted to explain how joymax didnt give the bow any effect (kb,stun) only untill lvl 73 and 76 that almost very hard work to get ur first effects
as u will see here how the another builds are more lucky
2h warrior lvl 4 kb (bows 73) lvl 10 kd (bows No) lvl 30 stun (bows 76)
wiz lvl 20 kb (bows 73)
blade lvl 19 kd
glavie lvl 14 stun (lol we 76)
and alot another builds have better and THE HUGE DIFF BETWEEN THE BOW AND THE ANOTHER BUILDS comment as u like
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Post subject: Re: JoyMax Are Not Fair With Bow Users Posted: Tue Oct 28, 2008 12:16 pm |
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lol u got crit increase on frist book series too many attack rate increase u got a 350% skill (spirit arrow i guess) that is powerfull enough than any chinese str attack just do more lvling to get that status u want bowers in cap 9 and 100 a pwnerz
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Strwarrior
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Post subject: Re: JoyMax Are Not Fair With Bow Users Posted: Tue Oct 28, 2008 12:22 pm |
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well i know its true about what u said
but its still doesnt look fair 1 skill isnt that much like stun kb ......etc and who will do 90 and 100 are rare
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Post subject: Re: JoyMax Are Not Fair With Bow Users Posted: Tue Oct 28, 2008 12:32 pm |
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If you think it's not as fair now, you should've seen archers before the skills update.
Atleast now Strongbow's charge time's cut back and your only interruption skill (if you wanna call it that) isn't a phantom (from a whole 'nother mastery tree).
Archers have two 350% attacks (devil arrow w/ AR increase), Distance / Crit increase and an addition of Stun on Strongbow, and an annoying Knockback skill that usually works the large majority of the time.
At 100 cap, Pacheon users get another knockback attack...so they're able to spam kb back-to-back, which is a nice advantage to you and an annoying technique to whoever you fight.
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Strwarrior
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Post subject: Re: JoyMax Are Not Fair With Bow Users Posted: Tue Oct 28, 2008 12:57 pm |
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Ningyotsukai-san wrote: If you think it's not as fair now, you should've seen archers before the skills update.
Atleast now Strongbow's charge time's cut back and your only interruption skill (if you wanna call it that) isn't a phantom (from a whole 'nother mastery tree).
Archers have two 350% attacks (devil arrow w/ AR increase), Distance / Crit increase and an addition of Stun on Strongbow, and an annoying Knockback skill that usually works the large majority of the time.
At 100 cap, Pacheon users get another knockback attack...so they're able to spam kb back-to-back, which is a nice advantage to you and an annoying technique to whoever you fight. true but they get these skills at high lvls i dont say bow is weak but i mean y another builds get it at low and we get it at high
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Post subject: Re: JoyMax Are Not Fair With Bow Users Posted: Tue Oct 28, 2008 1:33 pm |
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Bows get it high because everyone was complaining about how bows sucked in comparison to Glaivers and shit. They decided to put KB and Stun in to remedy it.
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Post subject: Re: JoyMax Are Not Fair With Bow Users Posted: Tue Oct 28, 2008 4:04 pm |
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A lot of bowers are excited/expecting that the bower 100 cap skill 6 arrow combo is not link to the 5 arrow combo, though it would very effective in group pvp/job wars ect...I don't think u can kill anyone by spamming the 5 arrow then a strong bow follow by a 6 arrow combo in a 1/1 pvp...thought It would be most effective vs warriors to wait for there bless/skins to end or vs nukers>>>wait for there snow to end..other builds idk.
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Post subject: Re: JoyMax Are Not Fair With Bow Users Posted: Tue Oct 28, 2008 4:36 pm |
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Cant wait already farming my bow. 6 KB, Aint Devil, 5 KB, Strong bow....Rinse and repeat. Throw in a berserker arrow every now and then.
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Post subject: Re: JoyMax Are Not Fair With Bow Users Posted: Tue Oct 28, 2008 9:50 pm |
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whats unfair to me might be the arrow usage: non silk buyers will fill up their inventories with arrows and (especially full str) will drain them pretty quickly while using the arrow combos.
Crossbow does higher damage in hits and the bowers do higher average hits than Xbow damage:
Crossbow uses less but is easier to counter while bow relies on loads of arrows
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Post subject: Re: JoyMax Are Not Fair With Bow Users Posted: Tue Oct 28, 2008 9:50 pm |
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i hate baby crys stop whining get ur self a good set n wep or start a new char
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Post subject: Re: JoyMax Are Not Fair With Bow Users Posted: Tue Oct 28, 2008 10:11 pm |
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Ragnorak wrote: It would be most effective vs warriors to wait for there bless/skins to end or vs nukers>>>wait for there snow to end..other builds idk. You might as well just run away, instead of wasting arrows and pots.
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Post subject: Re: JoyMax Are Not Fair With Bow Users Posted: Wed Oct 29, 2008 2:33 am |
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well if ur too cheap to pay like 500 gold for another 250 arrows mybe u shouldent be archer try blader or something begginer freindly like glaive
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Post subject: Re: JoyMax Are Not Fair With Bow Users Posted: Wed Oct 29, 2008 4:39 am |
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Well if you can't kill the warrior in bless, why would you want to risk the chance of being defeated? You OBVIOUSLY won't be able to kill him, but he still has a slight chance to kill you.
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Post subject: Re: JoyMax Are Not Fair With Bow Users Posted: Thu Oct 30, 2008 1:08 pm |
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Strong bow is insanely powerful. Bowers got loads of crit increase. Less pot delay. (vs. euro)
Everythings got it's ups and downs.
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Post subject: Re: JoyMax Are Not Fair With Bow Users Posted: Thu Oct 30, 2008 1:39 pm |
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Strwarrior wrote: but its still doesnt look fair 1 skill isnt that much like stun kb ......etc and who will do 90 and 100 are rare It's not fair that bladers and glaivers have to run all over the place to kill things while the bow user (and in a lesser degree the nukers) can just stand and shoot either. We all have to make our sacrifices. Each build has its advantages and disadvantages.
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Post subject: Re: JoyMax Are Not Fair With Bow Users Posted: Thu Oct 30, 2008 4:56 pm |
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Quote: 2h warrior lvl 4 kb (bows 73) lvl 10 kd (bows No) lvl 30 stun (bows 76)
wiz lvl 20 kb (bows 73) I'd say it'd be more fair to compare archers to only chinese seeing as euro came around the same time archers gained their KB and Stun skills; given that even then on the older servers most of the committed archers were in their 6x+ However, Archers had their own bonuses that other masteries didn't have, and/or still don't. They have crit increase on skills that starts at Lv5 and at Lv90 they have what? crit 40 increase on a skill (bladers don't get that until their level 90 stab skill and it's just crit 5 increase). Archers also have AR increase as a skill and also on a skill. They also have range increase.
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Post subject: Re: JoyMax Are Not Fair With Bow Users Posted: Fri Oct 31, 2008 6:46 am |
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_Scarlett_ wrote: Quote: 2h warrior lvl 4 kb (bows 73) lvl 10 kd (bows No) lvl 30 stun (bows 76)
wiz lvl 20 kb (bows 73) I'd say it'd be more fair to compare archers to only chinese seeing as euro came around the same time archers gained their KB and Stun skills; given that even then on the older servers most of the committed archers were in their 6x+ However, Archers had their own bonuses that other masteries didn't have, and/or still don't. They have crit increase on skills that starts at Lv5 and at Lv90 they have what? crit 40 increase on a skill (bladers don't get that until their level 90 stab skill and it's just crit 5 increase). Archers also have AR increase as a skill and also on a skill. They also have range increase. lol 2 handers have a crit increase passive but archer kicketh ass archers don't need the knock back to kill now whats unfair is that force mastery has no imbue, and doesn't get its first aoe heal till lvl 70 something and even then only transfer 2, force may very well be dead at higher caps unless they change that
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Post subject: Re: JoyMax Are Not Fair With Bow Users Posted: Fri Oct 31, 2008 12:28 pm |
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nohunta wrote: Cant wait already farming my bow. 6 KB, Aint Devil, 5 KB, Strong bow....Rinse and repeat. Throw in a berserker arrow every now and then. not enough to kill a decent str player who is smart enough to have a non-garm set =x archers at this cap strong bow me in garms for like 9k max. 18k crit if they're lucky. So that means.....if you spam arrow combo's...i can pot it off =x
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Post subject: Re: JoyMax Are Not Fair With Bow Users Posted: Fri Oct 31, 2008 12:58 pm |
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the_wicked wrote: nohunta wrote: Cant wait already farming my bow. 6 KB, Aint Devil, 5 KB, Strong bow....Rinse and repeat. Throw in a berserker arrow every now and then. not enough to kill a decent str player who is smart enough to have a non-garm set =x archers at this cap strong bow me in garms for like 9k max. 18k crit if they're lucky. So that means.....if you spam arrow combo's...i can pot it off =x wizzards can't though
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Post subject: Re: JoyMax Are Not Fair With Bow Users Posted: Fri Oct 31, 2008 1:47 pm |
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I see the KB as a "last chance to get hp" or an interruption move for force skills. KB, debuffs, KB, heals ( if needed ) strongbow blah blah.
Or if your running low on hp, KB, heal, KB etc, gives you a chance to pot and heal. Force ftw.
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Post subject: Re: JoyMax Are Not Fair With Bow Users Posted: Fri Oct 31, 2008 3:06 pm |
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i've always thought bowers had it too easy. Not only do they have range but they also has the most powerful Chinese Str moves on a crit+they have crit increase. they're basically a slightly less powerful version of X-bow only they're faster. if you guys got 1KB skill that would be enough 2 back2back seems like overkill but nothing a good sheild won't be able to weather...your just delaying defeat..
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Post subject: Re: JoyMax Are Not Fair With Bow Users Posted: Fri Oct 31, 2008 11:09 pm |
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No, it's fair. Other build maybe have effect skill soon, but the probability always be the same until higher cap (blader 50% kd, glaiver 30% stun 30% KB). While bow's skill probability increase with the level.
+ crit skill: 20 25 30 35 40 45 50 + more KB at late cap + Probability of stun and +crit strong bow increase: now 25% stun +10 crit, later 25% stun +15 crit, +20 crit..
If ur not agreed with that, bow'll sux if all the probability stay the same.
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Post subject: Re: JoyMax Are Not Fair With Bow Users Posted: Sat Nov 01, 2008 4:00 am |
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Post subject: Re: JoyMax Are Not Fair With Bow Users Posted: Sun Nov 02, 2008 12:53 pm |
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bowers are the best in chinese class  i know that we get the status ( kb stun ) at high lv but thatz bco too many ppl use bow for fck to other. soo gaymax put advantages on us like a gift  bcoz we grind alllllllllllllllll time and when we finally get the lv 73/76 we get the status =) its like a world cup for chin archerz
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