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 Post subject: Need a smart answer
PostPosted: Thu Dec 04, 2008 10:57 pm 
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i'm level 83 atm with rogue 82 cleric 81 & training at antelops .i want to delevel rogue to raise 2h warrior .i have the sp to do it (already calculated) .

the problem is the euro mastery max limits =/ . i can't collect 3000+ cursed hearts at once & i can't pay that much silks to delevel skills (28 silks for 5 skills wdf).

i'm already deleveling dagger skills & rogue buffs (scorn,masks..etc) . so that will leave me with max xbow skills & 82 rogue mastery & in the other side 81 cleric with max (faith,recovery division,olbation & bless) .

These are my friends suggestions :

1-delevel cleric , raise 2h , delevel rogue then raise cleric again (this will cost me a lot of sp )

2-delvel rogue & train at lower level monsters (this will cost me a lot of time w/o getting any exp) when rogue is 60 , delevel 23 cleric levels & raise 2h sword , delevel the rest of rogue then raise the 23 cleric levels .

what shall i choose ? is there any better/smarter solution ? & what is the biggest level difference between me & the monster to stop dropping cursed hearts ?

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 Post subject: Re: Need a smart answer
PostPosted: Thu Dec 04, 2008 11:25 pm 
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Cap the rogue, powerfarm 1h/2h/axe/cleric ...
Infact,there is nothing wrong with rogue ... It is one of the best PvP builds ...

Trust me, you'll regreat if you change ... too much job and time wasted...

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 Post subject: Re: Need a smart answer
PostPosted: Fri Dec 05, 2008 3:30 am 
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Ash, i refuse to give a constructive reply to this thread for 1 reason. You have quote Scrubs, quite badly.

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 Post subject: Re: Need a smart answer
PostPosted: Fri Dec 05, 2008 6:42 am 
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you can just delvl the rogue and join a good party with item auto share
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 Post subject: Re: Need a smart answer
PostPosted: Fri Dec 05, 2008 6:53 am 
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@Nitro
yeah i already thought about that too . but this char already costed me a lot of time,effort & money (& i like it's name xD)

TBH i had a lot of fun playing as a rogue But the thing about Rogue is that i can't kill anyone w/o extreme or desperate which makes it a suicidal build & no good in group fights .+ The rogue build hasn't a single buff that helps party members .

on the other hand 2 have great damage , skins & critical passive increase .

@Lempi
Done & waiting for your reply .

@MohGabr
i only have bless,recovery division & oblation which are no good as the team constant cleric (have i mentioned i'm a str build)

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 Post subject: Re: Need a smart answer
PostPosted: Fri Dec 05, 2008 11:23 am 
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I think your best option would be to use some silk to get the higher rouge skills down. For example, use silk to get it from 82 to 60.

But use curst hearts to delevel dagger skills and buffs all the way first, then collect 300 curst hearts and use that to get your mastery down as far as possible.

That way, you will only need about 200 silk, and wont lose too much SP, and you'll then be able to get warrior upto a playable level.

I think if you have around level 70 warrior, as long as you have a decent weapon (80+5 for example, or 76 sos) you should be able to farm the rest of your hearts with that, and raise your mastery as and when you can.

However, when you use hearts to delevel skils, dont take the skills down all the way and then the mastery, take them down at the same time.

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 Post subject: Re: Need a smart answer
PostPosted: Fri Dec 05, 2008 12:30 pm 
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You need the mastery points, perhaps it's better to go on lower mobs and delevel both your xbow and cleric. When all 3 builds are around the same level you continue delevelling your rogue and level up cleric and warrior.

Dropping cursed hearts is not that time consuming or difficult but it will cost you a very big amount of gold for delevelling those skills above level 80.


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 Post subject: Re: Need a smart answer
PostPosted: Fri Dec 05, 2008 2:27 pm 
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Just keep your char rogue/cleric and powerfarm new char and make it warrior/cleric or whatever you want.

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 Post subject: Re: Need a smart answer
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Fauntleroy wrote:
Just keep your char rogue/cleric and powerfarm new char and make it warrior/cleric or whatever you want.

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 Post subject: Re: Need a smart answer
PostPosted: Fri Dec 05, 2008 8:30 pm 
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Thanks for the reply guys

i spent so much time on this char to reach this level & too much money too =[ so i won't be making any others soon

& paying 2.8$ for 5 skills is a RIP-OFF

so i guess the fastest way is to grind at lower level monsters for now (thanks Taelys for teh idea)

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 Post subject: Re: Need a smart answer
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Trust me, Warrior/Clerics arent anything special... most of time you will be slow, you cannot powerlevel anything, you look f-tardish... and everyone has them today.

Its sooo not worth the effort to change now ... Trust me, you will change halfway, and quit out of boredrom ...

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 Post subject: Re: Need a smart answer
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I agree with Nitro. I believe it's not worth it to change now.

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 Post subject: Re: Need a smart answer
PostPosted: Fri Dec 05, 2008 11:27 pm 
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Why are you guys confusing me again =[

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 Post subject: Re: Need a smart answer
PostPosted: Fri Dec 05, 2008 11:52 pm 
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Ash wrote:
Why are you guys confusing me again =[

Sorry, but we're not confusing you... these are just different opinions, it's usually what you get when posting on forums.

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 Post subject: Re: Need a smart answer
PostPosted: Sat Dec 06, 2008 12:43 am 
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in my opinion:STAY ON ROGUE...CAP IT...AND POWERFARM A WARRIOR AFTER .....
rogue are very good plevelers and ... they are cool...warrior/cleric is slow..better do a warrior/warlock 1handed xD but ... do what warrior u want but remember that the rogue is better....its easy...cap the rogue...or leave it like it is now...and plvl a warrior...its more easy

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 Post subject: Re: Need a smart answer
PostPosted: Sat Dec 06, 2008 10:24 am 
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Best Answer: Delevel Rogue, Play in party share as cleric. Pick up curst hearts. GG K THX ~


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 Post subject: Re: Need a smart answer
PostPosted: Sat Dec 06, 2008 11:19 pm 
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dude why u dont dlvl the cleric and lvl up the warrior? and try rogue/warrior . this build rocks in pvp pve and uniques too. im 83 atm(rogue/warrior) and i have alot of fun with this build.

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 Post subject: Re: Need a smart answer
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BloodyBlade wrote:
Fauntleroy wrote:
Just keep your char rogue/cleric and powerfarm new char and make it warrior/cleric or whatever you want.

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Its not worth it to delevel that much mate.

Besides, if you ever get bored of the warrior or bored of the deleveling process itself, you can't go back in time.

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 Post subject: Re: Need a smart answer
PostPosted: Mon Dec 08, 2008 10:03 pm 
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Another rogue wants to switch :( stay rogue its the most fun build

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 Post subject: Re: Need a smart answer
PostPosted: Tue Dec 09, 2008 4:22 am 
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Ok my suggestion is: keep the rouge cleric as a thief char.. build a warrior cleric as your pvp char.. i guess this what u really want.. Use a PP and u be there in no time at all..


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 Post subject: Re: Need a smart answer
PostPosted: Tue Dec 09, 2008 4:30 am 
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i see
you have to delevel Xvow
and up warrior
but you will have to attack in low lvl mobs
i think you will able to attack with warrior skills @ lvl 70
and you will lose a lot of damage but you will be stable.

so you won't lose a lot of time & SP

keeping cleric lvl 81 will make you stay with your sit .


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 Post subject: Re: Need a smart answer
PostPosted: Tue Dec 09, 2008 8:33 pm 
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I think just ask you guild for help'n party's..
Maybe ask for an auto item share party, you start off with clean inventory.
You put bunny and just go afk
Bunny will collect curst heart.
--> all things in inventory go to you party member., so he has no loses on items or so.
Looks like fast collecting curst hearts. Then just dlvl xbow 'n d lvl 2h
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 Post subject: Re: Need a smart answer
PostPosted: Wed Dec 10, 2008 5:59 am 
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read some of the comments,
and i will suggest you make another new character Lv22-24 Plvl by the double experience ong powerfarming (read forum).

Your character name Ash? maybe u can make _Ash_ :D

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 Post subject: Re: Need a smart answer
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Get a trade, with some guild members ect,,,raped NPC thief....hearts drop like flies

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