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 Post subject: I hardly use bicheon
PostPosted: Sun Sep 06, 2009 7:06 am 
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hi i am lvl 47 setting up a 9gap to farm i have lvl 43 bich 42 light and 40 cold. i never use bicheon hardly ever lol should i drop it and get fire ?

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 Post subject: Re: I hardly use bicheon
PostPosted: Sun Sep 06, 2009 7:11 am 
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Nope, if you are planning on doing some pvp when your higher then you will need bicheon because of the KD and chains. At lvl45 bicheon isn't very helpfull but once you will get bleed and the lightning chain you will start to pwn :)

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 Post subject: Re: I hardly use bicheon
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ok i just find nuking then doing bich move dont really work well together. i guess ill keep bicheon :(

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ok i just find nuking then doing bich move dont really work well together. i guess ill keep bicheon :(

Look at some of the high level s/s users pvp, you will see that bicheon is very important.

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 Post subject: Re: I hardly use bicheon
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once u r level 69 ull get triple stab that is useful when handling giant against other KSer.after 70 bicheon will get a lot better.


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 Post subject: Re: I hardly use bicheon
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When fighting a giant I need bicheon skills, cause the cooldowns on my nukes aren't short enough for me to keep nuking. So I mostly use, Ice nuke, light nuke, 4 chain, 5 chain, nuke, nuke, kd, stab and so on :D to make it interesting when i grind xD

Edit: I'm 44 with a 8 gap Ice/light/bicheon

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 Post subject: Re: I hardly use bicheon
PostPosted: Sun Sep 06, 2009 8:26 am 
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hmm ok ill keep bicheon since it sounds more usefull then having fire :D

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or you could get fire instead of bicheon. force nuker ftw. light/fire/ice. its basically like a chinese wizard except it can live longer. this build nukes HARD. really good for group pvp.

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or you could get fire instead of bicheon. force nuker ftw. light/fire/ice. its basically like a chinese wizard except it can live longer. this build nukes HARD. really good for group pvp.


But really bad for 1v1 pvp and jobbing IMO

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or you could get fire instead of bicheon. force nuker ftw. light/fire/ice. its basically like a chinese wizard except it can live longer. this build nukes HARD. really good for group pvp.


But really bad for 1v1 pvp and jobbing IMO


i back that up. u wont hit as hard as a wiz and die as fast when ur snow shield is over
id rather do damage and die. then do some damage and die w.o killing anone

keep bich itll help a lot at ur lvl u should knock down stab and nuke


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 Post subject: Re: I hardly use bicheon
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Bicheon is FAR more helpful then having fire wud be. Like everyone else says, just wait for Lightening Chain, and it will all be worth it. "Force" nukers (all 3 element trees) are pretty damn bad in pvp. You have no interrupting skills (kd's) to make you more effective, so your nukes keep getting stopped by the other players skills.

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 Post subject: Re: I hardly use bicheon
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ok i think ill stick with bich coz i really wanna do jobbing at high lvl!

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since i made this thread i havnt uses ANY bicheon skills there just so useless when i train i just cold nuke then light nuke and if needed a shout :D

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andycooly wrote:
since i made this thread i havnt uses ANY bicheon skills there just so useless when i train i just cold nuke then light nuke and if needed a shout :D

It's more useful for pvp. Not really useful for pve until you get debuffs or if you are gonna die and need to kd a mob.

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1 nuke to kill normal mobs lion shout if needed
whilte my nuke us cooling down use ur devil cut blade then knock down the next enemy

kd can be used to ks giants as well


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 Post subject: Re: I hardly use bicheon
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kay i guess full force nuker isnt very good then :(

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full force nuker sucks 1v1 but will be good anywhere else. kinda pointless if you ask me though.

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hmmmmm wat about dropping lgiht and getting fire (43) light

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andycooly wrote:
hmmmmm wat about dropping lgiht and getting fire (43) light

light is an ints must, magic dmg increase, nukes, lion shouts, grass walk, phantom walk. its the dmg of an int, and ice is the heart really, it provides the much needed phys def and snowsheild (ints best friend). the difference in damage having fire over light isnt much due to lights mag dmg increase. and you get more bonuses from it.

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andycooly wrote:
hmmmmm wat about dropping lgiht and getting fire (43) light

light is an ints must, magic dmg increase, nukes, lion shouts, grass walk, phantom walk. its the dmg of an int, and ice is the heart really, it provides the much needed phys def and snowsheild (ints best friend). the difference in damage having fire over light isnt much due to lights mag dmg increase. and you get more bonuses from it.



lion shout isnt that great bich has those throwing skills(devil cut blade?) which i think are better
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 Post subject: Re: I hardly use bicheon
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antics wrote:
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andycooly wrote:
hmmmmm wat about dropping lgiht and getting fire (43) light

light is an ints must, magic dmg increase, nukes, lion shouts, grass walk, phantom walk. its the dmg of an int, and ice is the heart really, it provides the much needed phys def and snowsheild (ints best friend). the difference in damage having fire over light isnt much due to lights mag dmg increase. and you get more bonuses from it.



lion shout isnt that great bich has those throwing skills(devil cut blade?) which i think are better
and they can crit

im not saying that lion shout is great, but its another usefull skill from light for ints. i personally like lion shout for a pure int better, short cast time and recover. ok damage, multiple hits,and you can cast one after another. and a crit for a sword int isnt significant at all.

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