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 Post subject: Hybrid Bower Help!
PostPosted: Mon Aug 23, 2010 1:51 am 
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so i made a hybrid bower today and it seems that i messed up with the hybrid ratio..
lv:16
Str:56
Int:59
Phy.Bal:73%
Mag.Bal:64%

what i should do now ?

oh and im in between light and cold, but dunno which is better for hybrids...

i want it to be a good pvp build, idc about pve

thnx in advance.


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 Post subject: Re: Hybrid Bower Help!
PostPosted: Mon Aug 23, 2010 8:48 am 
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for pvp, fire/ice.

the mag. balance is a bit low to make use of light that much.
if you want to save sp: max bow/max fire/ mix light/ice

the ice should be at least 60 though for you will need 40% snow if you plan on staying the hybrid you are

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 Post subject: Re: Hybrid Bower Help!
PostPosted: Mon Aug 23, 2010 4:00 pm 
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hmm..whats the hybrid ratio u would recommend for me ? (for pvp)


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 Post subject: Re: Hybrid Bower Help!
PostPosted: Mon Aug 23, 2010 5:26 pm 
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it is all up to your own personal preferences,
if you want a pure pvp, crit reliant(bow helps alot there) build, you can just set all str on every further lvl (you'll end up with something between 10:1 - 9:1 hybrid)

either
max bow/ max fire /90 light/ 30 ice
or
max bow/ max fire /max ice


if you want a pvper that can deal higher non-crit damage and lvl quickly,
-a more death prone build-
then you go something between the 9:1 (93% phys. 34% mag.) and your current build (which should be almost 1:1)

either
max bow/ max fire /light+ice mix
or
max bow/ max fire /max ice



though the hybrids aren't prominent in pvp, with the right skills you will easily be as good,
i've had a 5:1 str hybrid bower that did pretty well vs the praised full str builds,
just needed a 30-35% snow shield to make up for the health loss

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 Post subject: Re: Hybrid Bower Help!
PostPosted: Mon Aug 23, 2010 7:54 pm 
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IMO 9:1 is not hybrid enough, if you decide to go hybrid at least make it worth it. Something around 80-85% phys sounds good, maybe a bit more or less depending on how you like to play.

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 Post subject: Re: Hybrid Bower Help!
PostPosted: Mon Aug 23, 2010 8:28 pm 
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I'll go 85% phy as Tsume said, and will be 110 pach/110 fire/90 light/20 cold
Ty all
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so a friend told me if i want to go hybrid, i should go 70:70, whats the difference ?


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 Post subject: Re: Hybrid Bower Help!
PostPosted: Mon Aug 23, 2010 11:03 pm 
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basically almost 2:1 vs 1:2

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 Post subject: Re: Hybrid Bower Help!
PostPosted: Tue Aug 24, 2010 2:22 am 
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70:70 seems good enough, and i heard it has insane critcals
if i choose 70:70, should i go pach/fire/ 90 light 20 cold ? or should be bow/fire/cold ?


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 Post subject: Re: Hybrid Bower Help!
PostPosted: Tue Aug 24, 2010 6:05 am 
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ur gonna need more ice if your going 70:70 bro, at LEAST 30 ice or your going to get thrashed in PvP

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 Post subject: Re: Hybrid Bower Help!
PostPosted: Tue Aug 24, 2010 1:08 pm 
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Het1337 wrote:
ur gonna need more ice if your going 70:70 bro, at LEAST 40 ice or your going to get thrashed in PvP


fixed :P
(but 60 ice for 40% is even better)

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 Post subject: Re: Hybrid Bower Help!
PostPosted: Tue Aug 24, 2010 3:00 pm 
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so i should drop light and go with 110 ice ? (for pvp's sake)
or the 60 ice and rest to light will be a good mix ?
and uhm im guessing i'll have to wear protector ?
one stupid question, i noticed that i'll add more int than str, how come they both r same balance ? and btw i'll use nukes ? xD
thnx alot.


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 Post subject: Re: Hybrid Bower Help!
PostPosted: Tue Aug 24, 2010 3:40 pm 
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supermando wrote:
so i should drop light and go with 110 ice ? (for pvp's sake)
or the 60 ice and rest to light will be a good mix ?


110 ice gives you alot more phys defence and the possibility of a higher snow shield-> 2-3x more sp needed
60ice/50 light gives you 40% snow which should be enough, about 12% mag. attack, 53% speed, some parry and some phys defence.
all for very little sp

the real difference is the phys defence

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and uhm im guessing i'll have to wear protector ?

if you want to focus on grining till you are high enough, take garms and then make a prot suit

supermando wrote:
one stupid question, i noticed that i'll add more int than str, how come they both r same balance ?

the same amount of stat points gives you a bit more balance% than for int
it's normal


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and btw i'll use nukes ? xD
thnx alot.


nah, as a bower you have quicker attacks with more range that outdamage nukes if they crit.

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 Post subject: Re: Hybrid Bower Help!
PostPosted: Tue Aug 24, 2010 4:17 pm 
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i'll go with the mix of light/ice, i think i'll need more mag attack over the phy def..
thnx alot for helping me =)


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 Post subject: Re: Hybrid Bower Help!
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no problem, hope all goes well :)

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 Post subject: Re: Hybrid Bower Help!
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supermando wrote:
i'll go with the mix of light/ice, i think i'll need more mag attack over the phy def..
thnx alot for helping me =)


I have this build. I think its good but I don't wanna say much more until i reach high lvl. But at low level its pretty good. I use ice to PVP and PVE with..

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 Post subject: Re: Hybrid Bower Help!
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BuDo wrote:
supermando wrote:
i'll go with the mix of light/ice, i think i'll need more mag attack over the phy def..
thnx alot for helping me =)


I have this build. I think its good but I don't wanna say much more until i reach high lvl. But at low level its pretty good. I use ice to PVP and PVE with..

so u r 70:70 bower, with fire/ice ? how's the grinding going without light ?


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 Post subject: Re: Hybrid Bower Help!
PostPosted: Sat Aug 28, 2010 2:52 pm 
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No I am 2:1 str...light and ice...no fire. I just feel anything less than 2:1 str will make you a rogues bitch..those cats do massive crits. I want to at least have a some respectable level of survivability.

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