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PostPosted: Tue May 29, 2007 11:35 am 
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What is physical damage?
What is magical damage?

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PostPosted: Tue May 29, 2007 11:43 am 
physical damage comes from physical attacks. for example a blade hit.
magical damage comes from magical attacks. for example a nuke.


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So when you are using an imbue with a spear is that physical damage?

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PostPosted: Tue May 29, 2007 11:49 am 
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So when you are using an imbue with a spear is that physical damage?

P.S Cin ur always answering my posts. Online 24/7.


imbue is magical.

and nah im not online 24/7 just a lot ;)


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imbue + weapon skill = both phys and magical damage. Ain't it obvious? lol It will say on the skill if it inflicts magical or physical damage.

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so Im pure int spear.
Should i only get only the skills that do magical damage?

If an imbue is magical attack, then why do pure STR's use it?

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PostPosted: Tue May 29, 2007 11:58 am 
ryuko2121 wrote:
so Im pure int spear.
Should i only get only the skills that do magical damage?

If an imbue is magical attack, then why do pure STR's use it?


pure str use imbues to boost their attacks. extra attack is always good.
for pure str, fire is most important imbue. that one is the strongest.

for int spear, go hybrid. pure ints lack too much defense.

take light and fire/ice as forces and take heuksal as the weapon tree.
you will need the weapon mastery since you dont have nukes yet.


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correct me -
when pure int's use imbues the bonus that the imbue gives is higher.
im a pure int spear guy with light (magical attack bonus, gras walk flow etc.) fire (imbue) and ice (defense buffs). Is it OK if i dont always use nukes (maybe for the first hit) but i also use heuskal skill attacks?
OR, do pure int spears ONLY use nukes?

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ryuko2121 wrote:
correct me -
when pure int's use imbues the bonus that the imbue gives is higher.
im a pure int spear guy with light (magical attack bonus, gras walk flow etc.) fire (imbue) and ice (defense buffs). Is it OK if i dont always use nukes (maybe for the first hit) but i also use heuskal skill attacks?
OR, do pure int spears ONLY use nukes?


there are almost no pure int spears. like i said, they lack defense. go for
a 2:1 hybrid like suicidegrl from the forums that build seems to work well.

hybrids use both nukes and heuksal skills.
all spear users level up heuksal anyway because you get a hp bonus from
the passive.


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Normal attack without imbue is physical. When theres imbue, it's magical and physcial. So weapons phy and mag atk are kinda mixed. When theres str skill and you do it without imbue, its Physical attack. When you do Physical skill with imbue, its both becuase imbue is magical. When you nuke, its always magical becuase u dnt hit with ur weapon, only with nuke that is magical and imbue is magical too. Even without imbue its magical.

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cin wrote:
ryuko2121 wrote:
correct me -
when pure int's use imbues the bonus that the imbue gives is higher.
im a pure int spear guy with light (magical attack bonus, gras walk flow etc.) fire (imbue) and ice (defense buffs). Is it OK if i dont always use nukes (maybe for the first hit) but i also use heuskal skill attacks?
OR, do pure int spears ONLY use nukes?


there are almost no pure int spears. like i said, they lack defense. go for
a 2:1 hybrid like suicidegrl from the forums that build seems to work well.

hybrids use both nukes and heuksal skills.
all spear users level up heuksal anyway because you get a hp bonus from
the passive.


So is that 2 strength:1 int???

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ryuko2121 wrote:
cin wrote:
ryuko2121 wrote:
correct me -
when pure int's use imbues the bonus that the imbue gives is higher.
im a pure int spear guy with light (magical attack bonus, gras walk flow etc.) fire (imbue) and ice (defense buffs). Is it OK if i dont always use nukes (maybe for the first hit) but i also use heuskal skill attacks?
OR, do pure int spears ONLY use nukes?


there are almost no pure int spears. like i said, they lack defense. go for
a 2:1 hybrid like suicidegrl from the forums that build seems to work well.

hybrids use both nukes and heuksal skills.
all spear users level up heuksal anyway because you get a hp bonus from
the passive.


So is that 2 strength:1 int???


no. since spear is int based, that will be 2int:1str.

if you take the character builder (http://bobtheveg.dyndns.org/SRO/Char_Build_Applet/)
you can put the points in as they are now on your current level and then
see how many points you added in str so far and how many you should
put in int to become that 2:1 hybrid.


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cin wrote:
ryuko2121 wrote:
cin wrote:
ryuko2121 wrote:
correct me -
when pure int's use imbues the bonus that the imbue gives is higher.
im a pure int spear guy with light (magical attack bonus, gras walk flow etc.) fire (imbue) and ice (defense buffs). Is it OK if i dont always use nukes (maybe for the first hit) but i also use heuskal skill attacks?
OR, do pure int spears ONLY use nukes?


there are almost no pure int spears. like i said, they lack defense. go for
a 2:1 hybrid like suicidegrl from the forums that build seems to work well.

hybrids use both nukes and heuksal skills.
all spear users level up heuksal anyway because you get a hp bonus from
the passive.


So is that 2 strength:1 int???


no. since spear is int based, that will be 2int:1str.

if you take the character builder (http://bobtheveg.dyndns.org/SRO/Char_Build_Applet/)
you can put the points in as they are now on your current level and then
see how many points you added in str so far and how many you should
put in int to become that 2:1 hybrid.


Do these builds have good damage?
P.S. Ills send u a message later after i check how much INT i already added to see how much STR i need to make my build 2:1.

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ok.

and yes these builds have good damage.

int hybrid spears can have more str added than int hybrid sword shields
because the spear does more damage and they need more defense.


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What builds have better damage than it and what builds dont?

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What builds have better damage than it and what builds dont?


most magic dmg is pure int spear. but you will die without the heuksal passive
and the ice defense which is only good at the 90 cap.

2nd damage is either spear int hybrid or pure int sword shield.

hybrid int sword shield has less damage, but functions well cause of the
better defense.

however, all these builds in the end depend on both gear and skills.
sosun+9 swordshield hybrid fully farmed owns a regular pure int spear.


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Even with Heuksal passive, you can't survive a one-hitter or even 2. The boost just isn't enough. Int based hybrids would just pwn them. Pure Str's today can tank a few hits from a pure int spear before getting killed and thy have enought ime to get to you and kill you, unless you keep running away lol. I advise hybrid int and not pure int spear.

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I was thinking.
Maybe I could just keep adding INT.
However, i wont ONLY use nukes and not level up Heuskal.
I will SOMETIMES use nukes and other times I will use and level up HEUSKAL.

How does that sound?

I just want a build that does GOOOOOD + uses both heuskal skills AND nukes.

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in pvp, u will use wep skills, for spear users, it would be like nuke + soul spear + ghost spear, for sword users, it would be nuke + kd + stab. you can't use nukes all through out pvp matches since these take time to cast & it gets cancelled when u get kd/stun/knockback. in pve, u will generally use nukes coz u normally kill mobs at 1 nuke or 1 nuke + lion shout.

even using wep skills, int based char deals higher regular dmg (not crits) since you will be dealing phy & mag (with imbues) & mag dmg is higher for all weapons than phy dmg.

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y nobody wants pure str? ya my damage isn't high but my critcals r high and i can tank 5,6 maybe 7 of mobs in my lvl

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ryuko2121 wrote:
What builds have better damage than it and what builds dont?

mag dmg pure int spr>pure int s/s>hyrbid spr> hybrid s/s


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shadowman20875 wrote:
ryuko2121 wrote:
What builds have better damage than it and what builds dont?

mag dmg pure int spr>pure int s/s>hyrbid spr> hybrid s/s


hybrid s/s>pur str glaiver>pur str blader (continuation)

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shadowman20875 wrote:
ryuko2121 wrote:
What builds have better damage than it and what builds dont?

mag dmg pure int spr>pure int s/s>hyrbid spr> hybrid s/s


hybrid s/s>pur str glaiver>pur str blader (continuation)

i didnt want to bring in strs cause of crit and mislead him on how str suck cause they have no mag attck


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@shadowman yup, agreed. didn't see the mag dmg =)

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am i right if i have 33 lv almost pure int (3 str added now) i need to add 30 str more (and that will be next 10 levels?) so i can have that 2:1 ?

becose i die way too easily ( 1 hit often)


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jichiong wrote:
in pvp, u will use wep skills, for spear users, it would be like nuke + soul spear + ghost spear, for sword users, it would be nuke + kd + stab. you can't use nukes all through out pvp matches since these take time to cast & it gets cancelled when u get kd/stun/knockback. in pve, u will generally use nukes coz u normally kill mobs at 1 nuke or 1 nuke + lion shout.

even using wep skills, int based char deals higher regular dmg (not crits) since you will be dealing phy & mag (with imbues) & mag dmg is higher for all weapons than phy dmg.

hope this helps


Thats exactly what I needed thanks.

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