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 Post subject: --- THE Hybrid THEORY ---
PostPosted: Thu Dec 06, 2007 12:15 pm 
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Hi, avid SRO players.

I have a jst got my char to 80, a Heuksal Hybrid Int - 75%PhyBal 92%MagBal - and have been playing silkroad for more than a year now and everytime i have the chance, i scan the forums for topics about pure ints and hybrids in chinese builds. But unfortunately, i ddnt see any topic with good and technical responses on this matter.

When SRO opened its 80 cap, it introduced a new book in the ColdMastery, the SnowShield Skill. The SnowShield Skill makes u absorb damage which depends on the level of the skill and translates it into mana consumption for 60seconds. For example if u got 40%DamageAbsorption (lv60 ColdMastery) and normal damage on u is 5000, then with this on, you will get 5000x.40=2000 damage reduce. This will make u then consume 2000mana, the moment you take the hit. Clearly, SnowShield is a must have for ints, a build which has less HP and big MP. Ints will take lesser damage and make its huge amount of MP to use rather than just letting it still and wait til MP gets low after using skills and autopots.=X

And so my predicament arises. Which is the better build now with SnowShield in the scene, pure int or hybrid?

Actually i was pure int heuksal until lv52. Me and my friend, a pure str glavie, would always go on to pvp. Gears are same +3+4 then including weps with good int and str and +HP, so the match is fair. But i always get killed with only 1 or 2hits. So i decided then to add str and go on hybrid. This means having more HP than pure int to tank esp crits of str but sacrificing my mag damage. For me this was a good trade. And thus, a new gameplay: Tank+stun+mars - wait for crit. I thot it was cool. Eversince i was always thinking that being hybrid is not a bad idea. That SRO depends on gameplay/style u chose. At lv80 pvps that i watched, i can see that pure int heuksals must stun first or avoid getting stunned and crit, else he dies. But if his initial successive combos gets in without block or getting stunned, no doubt he will pawn the enemy. at pvp - Nuke, stun, mars. As you can see, pure int heuksal gameplay is fast kill. Well, all of this was before 80cap.

Now, SnowShield Skill is the answer to the very fragile defense of Pure int esp those who chose to be heuksals. Getting his mag balance to 118% (at lvl80 heuksal, for pure int bicheon wud be more coz of int bonus on shield) with perfect ints on set and acc and wep, his nuke and physical skill damage hurts, even on players with SnowShield on. I pvpd an 80 pure int heuksal with 40%SnowShield, man, my normal damage was considerably low compared. You shud consider, too, that they have higher mag balance, thus, larger mag damage absorption.

My point is being hybrid now with this skill put in the game, is for me, kind of useless now.

Still having sed these all, i still have my hopes on hybrids, coz i still dont believe that SRO is all about pures.

I may have missed out some points, coz ive been wanting to post this on topic on the forum for months but i end up jst closing the explorer window.

I wanted really to relay my points and views in the best way so i you cn get what i mean. Maybe il add add some figures about - damage = corresponding to balance = damage absorption - to let you see the effects of those stats in the game, according to my SRO pvp experiences only.

Guys, ty for reading, im hoping to read soon your responses. I know that there are also lots out there playing SRO and are thinking technically about the game. I jst wanted to grasp the essence of SRO and all. Having Chinese Chars, for me, have a "hybrid" kind of role in the game, as compared to the Euros who i really believe to be best as pures, considering their weapons has either only 1 kind of damage, either Phy Atk or Mag Atk, and maybe u know the power of Wiz Nukes as compared to Chinese int pures. Like, a +7 full farm (pure int of crs) 80Wiz nuke a nhiya general 25-26k while pure int sosun+7 spear 80 full farm skills nuke at 18-22k. Chinese Int may not nuke as hard as pure ints wiz of Euros but i has good def skills, can tank better than euros without clerics and faster autopots and i say the Chinese Chars are jacks-of-all-trades. Well its another story, another topic ^^.

I leave it until here now coz i gtg.=P I want to know your views too about this matter. lets discuss. Thanks and GodBless. I love SRO =P and hybrids =P.

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Cold is nice for Ints now! If only it had stronger nukes :(

I agree with you PvP wise, but for PvE I'd still prefer to go hybrid over pure in hueksal. Maybe s/s is a different story though.

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i think it will help more for pure int, but for pvp, i would have to say pure int as well. Its meant to reduce the damage and the hybrid already has a little bit of health already.

even for a hybrid it could work, but why spend the skill points on it when hrbrids have descent health already.

but its your build, so do what you want. :)


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I am a very very hybrid int bow with 40%snow. I have the ability to tank like a full str for 2 min while doing more damage then if i was pure str. So how does snow shield make hybrid useless for pvp?

Actually I tank better then a pure str because my pots don't have to fill as much since it gets split between both bars.

The only problem I have is I won't be able to lvl the snow shield any higher, while a pure int can.

However I will always have more effective hp then a pure int even if they are running 50% snowshield.

So.......Yeah I am not saying everyone should be hybrid, but snow shield helps me as much or more then a pure int.

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what's your %'s glavie?


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u like linkin park?

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Snow shield came with Europe, not 80 cap.

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i think linkin park music with their screaming messed up ur head.

snow shield useless? "faint"

"in the end" nukers with snowshield beats every1 coz they can tank

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dam i need to ost here i will read later too long :shock: :shock: :shock:


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monkey289 wrote:
what's your %'s glavie?


Not sure exactly what you are asking but, phys. and mag bal. is 84:84.(Im the 70:70 build)
Im lvl 65 with 4 gap.
During pvp I run xL pots both hp and mp set at 80%.

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When I still had my 76 bower, I would just kb and stun a snowshield user untill the 2 mins run out and then kill them off pretty fast.

Sure there where people who knew wich button to press when, but the majority of players was an easy prey after snowshield ran out.

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My first post :) :

After reading your "Hybrid Theory" I felt like sharing some of my
experiences being a Heuksal Hybrid.
First of all we're talking about a in Sro-PvP unique situation
on lvl cap.
The weapon is lower than every other set part (all but the hands)
and 8 lvls lower than char lvl (let's not regard suns for pvp when
we talk about builds....)
That means that the damage compared to lvl and Hp is lower than
ever before on a lower level for every build.
Well, especially for Int builds as they depend on a high weapon
for high mag damage => no crits ...

The point in being hybrid is the increased phy balance now.
Hybrid's crits do actually hurt due to a 70+ phy balance.
During the snow shield time you won't die and after you got
good chances to tank that 1 minute switching to S/S building up
cold. fire walls,... as you got enough Hp to.
That's what a full Int is hardly able to (talking about guys with +5 set and +5 weapons who pvp...).
Furthermore Full Int Heuksal do actually die during 50% Snow Shield in Armor against Ints and in Garment against Str...
Of course Hybrid's damage is lower than the one of a full Int Heuksal,
but being Hybrid definitely increases your ability to tank and therefore
makes you a better allrounder for pvp.
I'm not telling that Hybrid is better or worse, it's just different...

Everything I said here is based on my personal pvp-experiences with my
char and can be seen totally different too, of course.

To inform about my char:
Lvl 80 Int hybrid Heuksal 80, Lightning 80, Cold 80, Fire 60
Fully farmed, good equipment (no suns)
Balance : 74 phy, 95 mag

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PostPosted: Fri Dec 28, 2007 1:21 pm 
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To D4yw4lk3r: ty for the response.
good to know there is another person hu belives in our build.

To andrejat: my bad.. :P but i wud appreciate more ur views about this topic if ever u might realize to use ur brain to think, too. 8) hehe

To devilti: i was having a self argument on being hybrid 2:1 for spear to be useless. not snow shield.

Lately, i was pvping and hunting and saw some advantages of being 2:1 hybrid.

Crit damage. i nuked a pure str garm glaiver 10k with 80 fire nuke.
but i damaged 8kcrit + 7kcrit = 15k with the 2hit combo of emperor soul spear.
10k nuke damage vs 15k crit damage of phy skill is something.

Tank str crits.at hunting, a full farmed 80 with bow+7 critted me 11.5k. with 13.6k HP, i survived.

PVE Tank capability. i tanked str blader and pure int sword and bow. i was happy at that.:)

Nukes come in handy when someone runs, at knockbacks for continuous damage, and starters sometimes, but i use dragon spear throw coz of low casting time but depends on the kind set used by opponent. on garms and pro, i use spear throw. on armors, i usually nuke.

Merry Xmas and Happy new year SRO. Hope to hear ur thoughts and views about being hybrids esp hybrid spear. thanks. :)

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