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 Post subject: Cleric/Warlock
PostPosted: Sun Aug 17, 2008 2:31 pm 
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Are there any of you guys out there that has succesfully made this build? Seems like a good supporting build to me that can do quite some dmg. Also I'd like to see some screens of high lvl cleric's/warlock's or just warlock's :P

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 Post subject: Re: Cleric/Warlock
PostPosted: Sun Aug 17, 2008 2:36 pm 
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dno bout it if you take cleric as a main, but if you get warlock as main and cleric as sub, most chinese will own you cause they will cast icewall, will be immune to your debuffs and you will not break it because you have no phy attack's.

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 Post subject: Re: Cleric/Warlock
PostPosted: Sun Aug 17, 2008 2:37 pm 
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dno bout it if you take cleric as a main, but if you get warlock as main and cleric as sub, most chinese will own you cause they will cast icewall, will be immune to your debuffs and you will not break it because you have no phy attack's.


Stun goes through wall.

Warlock/Cleric is a good build, IMO.

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 Post subject: Re: Cleric/Warlock
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nope it doesn't, And I tested it, its a good build but bad at almost all chinese builds.

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 Post subject: Re: Cleric/Warlock
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BumP :)

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 Post subject: Re: Cleric/Warlock
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that build is AWSOME!!! i test a pt 8 in wing tribes with 1 of my friends . she is warlock/cleric and im wizz/cleric, bealieve me in 1h i up 20% of lv 78. and when a pt gigant appear we own it soooooo fast for just 2 players xD. i use bless spell and when it finish she use her and so on xD. i was wondering in farm a warlock/cleric :/ but 1kk sp is hard xD.1st ll up to 90, then start my warlock :P


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 Post subject: Re: Cleric/Warlock
PostPosted: Sun Aug 17, 2008 5:40 pm 
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KB~>Stun~>Offering. Ice Wall can stop this.
KB~>Bind~>Offering. Even if you bind them most Chinese have ranged attacks that will stop you from pulling off Offering.

Overpowered build against average players.

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 Post subject: Re: Cleric/Warlock
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Hustlar wrote:
dno bout it if you take cleric as a main, but if you get warlock as main and cleric as sub, you will own most chinese cause 95% of chinese pvpers never use ice wall, and even if they do use it you can run just outside of their range and wait it out. Plus, chinese builds do not have immunity to debuffs at all without outside help.


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 Post subject: Re: Cleric/Warlock
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I always thought stun penetrates walls :?

Anyways, you can outrun ice walls indeed.

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 Post subject: Re: Cleric/Warlock
PostPosted: Sun Aug 17, 2008 7:11 pm 
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Stress wrote:
I always thought stun penetrates walls :?

Anyways, you can outrun ice walls indeed.


Only physical attack moves that have a chance of stun can break walls instantly, like Sprint Assault. I actually love it when people use ice wall because it gives you a lot of free time. Use DoTs on them and run out of range, then rebuff, maybe bless spell, and wait until they cancel it. The opponent is basically giving up the initiative, because spamming Daze will result in an instant cast of stun the instant they come into range.

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 Post subject: Re: Cleric/Warlock
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Hustlar wrote:
nope it doesn't, And I tested it, its a good build but bad at almost all chinese builds.


oh please, just walk away and they will need to cancel that to attack you. Ice wall is completely useless

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 Post subject: Re: Cleric/Warlock
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Hustlar wrote:
nope it doesn't, And I tested it, its a good build but bad at almost all chinese builds.

LOL.

On the contrary, Warlocks/Clerics are the cure against all chinese egocentric builds.

There are only 2 builds that can stand against this build from the chinese, pure str glavie and bow. (20% probability to win)

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 Post subject: Re: Cleric/Warlock
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BumP :) going to bed now 1 am T_T tired.. screens men ok

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 Post subject: Re: Cleric/Warlock
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Astra wrote:
Hustlar wrote:
nope it doesn't, And I tested it, its a good build but bad at almost all chinese builds.

LOL.

On the contrary, Warlocks/Clerics are the cure against all chinese egocentric builds.

There are only 2 builds that can stand against this build from the chinese, pure str glavie and bow. (20% probability to win)



agreed, you should worry about ppl with holy, but stun + offering is always a nice combo =)


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 Post subject: Re: Cleric/Warlock
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Your wrong. Its good against most chinese because they aren't immune in 1v1. Disease-Hidden-Sleep-Weaken-Panic-stun-Celric rod-offering-group recovery. No one survives that from someone their level.


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 Post subject: Re: Cleric/Warlock
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lol u all are saying offering as if its a main nuke that can be spammed like wiz meteor etc.

of coz it owns any 1 at same level regardless of gear, but its meant for a last resort move, not a main nuke that u can cast every 5-7 sec

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 Post subject: Re: Cleric/Warlock
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CLOT wrote:
lol u all are saying offering as if its a main nuke that can be spammed like wiz meteor etc.

of coz it owns any 1 at same level regardless of gear, but its meant for a last resort move, not a main nuke that u can cast every 5-7 sec


That would be funny

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 Post subject: Re: Cleric/Warlock
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Shadowfox542 wrote:
Your wrong. Its good against most chinese because they aren't immune in 1v1. Disease-Hidden-Sleep-Weaken-Panic-stun-Celric rod-offering-group recovery. No one survives that from someone their level.


well for max one-hit-dmg its disease - stun - hidden - sleep - cursebreath(bleed) - weaken - division - offering

@CLOT why should i use offering as a last resort? or i ask the other way round: When do you know you have to use it? As a warlock/Cleric you dont have much room for misstakes cause of your low hp.


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 Post subject: Re: Cleric/Warlock
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warlock has death flower nuke too, which can be spammed cuz of long cd
offering has much longer cd, and cost 95% hp to use

if u are saying 1v1, den except for a shield block, no build can survive offering, u dun even have to debuff the enemy simple as that
even if u debuff, the blue pill bug will remove all ur debuffs (removing all debuff status by spam clicking it)

so after every offering, u say "hey lets wait my offering cd, den we pvp again"
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yea its so fun to pvp wif 1 hit

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 Post subject: Re: Cleric/Warlock
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I think you didnt get my point: IF you have enough time for the warlock nukes its fine but if not you got raped while casting (not much room for misstakes).
Iam not talking about stupid cape pvp, even in 1v1 you can face enemys who are NOT one-hit with offering so debuffing is necessary.
Yes you have to wait 1min for cooldown, you need to know when you cast it and when not.

You are right with the pills, but i dont care as long as 95% of the ppl dont use them / are surprised in the heat of the battle / etc. .


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 Post subject: Re: Cleric/Warlock
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Most users dont use those pills cuz they are simply to expensive 1mil for 50 of them.

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 Post subject: Re: Cleric/Warlock
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most CAPPED players in my server do use pills, like at least 70% of them
its part of the game, and i use them in job/fw too

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 Post subject: Re: Cleric/Warlock
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Drabon wrote:
As a warlock/Cleric you dont have much room for misstakes cause of your low hp.


Warlock/clerics have just as much hp as any other int player, with the exception of spear nukers. I am not 90 and have 12.5k hp, at 90 I should have with fixing my blues 14k~14.5k, and if I put my 10 stats into str, that is like 16k hp I think. oO lol

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 Post subject: Re: Cleric/Warlock
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keep the discussion on this build please :)

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 Post subject: Re: Cleric/Warlock
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is warlock/bard ok? or does warlock need cleric?

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 Post subject: Re: Cleric/Warlock
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BTW There isn't any really good cleric guide I think. Lvl 20 now and 3k sp lol ... wanna farm like 200k or more but I think I'll only get to 10k cuz never any1 legit gives plvl

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 Post subject: Re: Cleric/Warlock
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Warlock cleric is one of the most sp consuming builds out there, if I were you level up a wizard to around 5x - 6x and then use that to sp farm your warlock cleric. It may seem like a lot but it will save you TONS of effort.

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 Post subject: Re: Cleric/Warlock
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Lol it takes me about 3 months or more to get 6x wizard... better party with cleric then.. Mabye ill change warlock sub Just wanted to be cleric as a main lol

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