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 Post subject: About Xbower rogue and chinese archer, help me please
PostPosted: Mon Dec 31, 2007 12:53 am 
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I am new to Silkroad Online but i have already read a lot about this game, and i want to, as every other game ive played, play as an archer. But here I have the chinese archer and the european Xbower and im wondering which one would be better. Ive read that the europeans are party based and i really dont have much experience with partys, I always play solo. But the Xbower rogue seems better as ive seen they can push the target back. And the europenas look cooler than the chineses too 8) So, can i only lvl with a Xbower if I have a party?? Can I play it solo without too much problems too??? Or should i be the chinese archer?

Sorry if I spelled anything wrong, I am brazilian :) And thank you all for the help :D


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Look at the top of this page, locate the search button and look it up. After a lot of talk about this though, rogues come out on top for everything except tanking ability.

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The main differences between Chinese Bowman and European Xbowman are that Chinese, can tank a bit more(no pot delay) but do less dmg (in 1 hit, but more over time due to faster firing). Euros on the other hand, can do more dmg in 1 hit (at lower lvls) but cannot take hits (especially with xbow xtreme which cuts your hp in half).

Speed is the main difference, as chinese have grasswalk and garments which give them much more speed than a euro with light armor and bard subclass.

In terms of leveling, both are fairly quick, but Euros are a bit faster due to their high dmg. Also, in parties, You can lvl very fast.

You can solo level with both euro and chinese but euro is faster with party.

And personally, I like garments more than light armor. XP


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Speed is the main difference, as chinese have grasswalk and garments which give them much more speed than a euro with light armor and bard subclass.

at lvl 80 bard gives u (i think) 80% speed+ light armor= 90% speed. there is no way grasswalk+ garms can beat that XD.

i would go xbow. lvl faster, higher dmg, can lvl dagger skills, less sp farming, soloing, more range, more unique kills, can be a tank or a dmg dealer in parties (with xbow extreme u will be a dmg dealer, without it u can be a tanker), kb at lower lvls, poison, less mp pots used, monster mask, and of course stealth :twisted:.
one bad thing is that garms look a lot better than light armor, the skills look soo boring (ur rogue will just stand up straight and charge ur attacks -.-), and the bows look a lot better than xbow.

in my thought they are both good, but xbow will get its very powerful skill (not the most powerful) at 20 while bow will get it at 31 (Strong Bow).

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Well, you're only looking at the highest level. but for a person who just started the game (who I don't except to get to 80) for the most part, Chinese are gunna be faster than euro.

Also, at lvl 60, Euro bard gives 55% speed, while grasswalk gives 61% (at lvl 61 since the increment is different)


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Xbow rogues really seems to be better and it will probably be my choice. And I have good experience with MMORPGS and I think this game is really good, so i intend to get to the higher lvls. So, even if europeans are party based and have potion delay I can still solo with a rogue? If so I will pick the rogue as my character :) Thank all of you for the help :D


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Yes, I have friends that I actually know that I play with, but most of the time they're not on and I'm too lazy to party and I train perfectly by myself.

But just be aware that without a party, it is definetly harder to take on giants and party mobs. But for the normal grind against normal mobs, solo is the same as with a party.


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Thank you very much :) None of my friends wants to play Silkroad but I am almost convencing one( The only one that shows some interest). For the stronger mobs I will try to figure out a way to kill them. Ive read that the cleric skills can help and there was a skill that seemed very good, it was recovery division if Im not mistaken. Or I will just party with a cleric/warrior to heal me/tank. Then I will play with rogue, thanks for the help :D


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Yeah up to lvl 20 you can do ok and survive against party mobs but after 20 with xbow extreme (skill which cuts ure hp and def in half for uber dmg) its hard to tank or take its at all against party and giants.


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Well, archer and rogue are 2 completely different builds. An archer will not die as fast as a rogue. If a rogue get's mobbed he's pretty much f*cked. On the other hand, he does a hell of a lot of damage. This means that an archer can pvp better but a rogue can sneak up behind someone and kill the other without him noticing you before he's dead.

Anyway, 1 last tip. If you plan to only use the xbow, take the bard sub. While cleric sub might look great, with an xbow it isn't really usefull. I'm a rogue/cleric myself with xbow, but I don't use much of the cleric skills with xbow. But that's okay, cause I'm planning to take the daggers skills in the later levels.

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I think it's 90%+ Speed with Bard Lv80, I'm not sure though.

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Rogues are tons of fun to play. Before you get to level 20 it might be a drag, but once you get Long Shot and Crossbow Extreme your damage will increase by fourfold. (Don't grind with daggers >_< You will die a lot.)
Most rogues take both weapons after 40, so either Bard or Cleric subclass is optimal. They also have amazing grinding speeds. Crossbow rogues regularly train on monsters five levels above them easily with help from both knockback and knockdown. Each monster should only take two hits to kill. As a result, they level up faster, and as a European class, they require less SP by default. It's been said before but Rogues can't tank for crap, so be prepared to run away from party mobs your level. They own in PvP but get owned just as fast. And they have fun skills that never get boring such as monster mask, duplicate, and stealth (good for spying on people), and later on you can make masks of a certain monster named Kokoru which has the fastest moving speed in the game and sell them for cash. You can cast poison field and pretend that you had some really bad gas. Even in parties, rogues are good. Like others said, they can do as much damage as a nuker (but not as much as wizards) or they can tank in place of a warrior.

I used to be a Chinese bower. PvP is more fun as a Chinese character becuase you can actually have a long, drawn out duel with someone and not end it in two seconds like a typical Euro PvP. Their skills have been improved now that they have knockback and stun later on. And yes they can tank like crazy. But like every other Chinese class, they are not friendly to new players. SP farming is a huge turn-off, and if you don't, sooner or later you will run out of SP and regret not farming.


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I played a little with a rogue, and with a chinese archer, only level 5 with each so I could see them in practice and read the skills descriptions. I really found rogues to be better to play than archer at the low lvs. As for the sub, I will not get one now. I will think about getting the daggers too and decide the sub. But cleric looks better with healing cycle and recovery division. And Ive read that with bard you can only get moving speed and a skill that prevents agressive monster from atacking you. I will really have to think a little about this.
Thank you for all your replies :)


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either is good.. just with bow you have unlimited pots..


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just my 2 cents
but as your new and ill go chin bow
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the overall pot delay
its kinda hard to find vigers and having to die alot may have a bad outcome making a new player stop playing
it 1000 times easyer to find chin item then it is to find euro and lots of partys are high lvl euros that wont let any new players in :roll:
pick bow not only do they rock but they can if well played kill almost evey thing in this game ( just throw up a wall and your good to go ) :D

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Finally one brazilian.. Im one too :D Your english is really good, so I assume that you do like it? Lets talk using this beatiful language then 8) . I have had an chinese bower and an rogue, and both are really cool and strong. Do you know what is sp farming? If you do, then know that with an rogue you need almost no sp farming at all. With chinese bower you will need a lot of sp farming, and that take a lot of time. If you dont know what sp farming is, then this might just help you: Click here. I think, that as you are starting you should make an xbow rogue, you will enjoy it a lot.
Hope I helped ya. If you need help just ask.

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I played a little with a rogue, and with a chinese archer, only level 5 with each so I could see them in practice and read the skills descriptions. I really found rogues to be better to play than archer at the low lvs. As for the sub, I will not get one now. I will think about getting the daggers too and decide the sub. But cleric looks better with healing cycle and recovery division. And Ive read that with bard you can only get moving speed and a skill that prevents agressive monster from atacking you. I will really have to think a little about this.
Thank you for all your replies :)

well that is the main reason ppl sub bard. because of this, u will be able to fight black robbers at lvl 32 and white spiders at 42. u will need this protection cause when u use xbow extreme, u lose 50% of ur health and def.
cleric's healing cycle/ recovery division might help u fight giant or party mobs, but u will have to kill them fast cause (i think) recovery division works for 16 seconds only.
Be aware that till lvl 20 its gonna be a pain in the ass. till then im using dagger cause dagger has 2 usable skills (spinning and wounds), while xbow has one (power shot). fast shot does very low dmg so its useless.
After lvl 20, if u have bard, u can add noise, lvl 2 moving march, (for xbow) long shot and xbow extreme. with these skills u will be able to take on earth ghosts, at the most in 3 hits(with a good lvl 21 wep).

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chinese archer... better tanker


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DavidHe wrote:
The main differences between Chinese Bowman and European Xbowman are that Chinese, can tank a bit more(no pot delay) but do less dmg (in 1 hit, but more over time due to faster firing). Euros on the other hand, can do more dmg in 1 hit (at lower lvls) but cannot take hits (especially with xbow xtreme which cuts your hp in half).

Speed is the main difference, as chinese have grasswalk and garments which give them much more speed than a euro with light armor and bard subclass.

In terms of leveling, both are fairly quick, but Euros are a bit faster due to their high dmg. Also, in parties, You can lvl very fast.

You can solo level with both euro and chinese but euro is faster with party.

And personally, I like garments more than light armor. XP


He's right. at the end the game is good balanced on the chineese-euro comparision.


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well xbow really own in dmg but in tanking there worse then int at tanking :D but i have a 25 xbow and i can already kill 31+ mobs with ce or crossbow extreme in 2 hits and i have played hybrid archers and pure str archers and they tank more then they dish out dmg.


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