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PostPosted: Thu Jan 03, 2008 1:08 pm 
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Whats the best all-around build, hybrid or str bow? Which one is best at pve and pvp?


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Hybrid is best in PvE and PvP I don't know hybrid does more overall damage and pure strength has lower damage but the crits are very high


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how do you build a hybrid? 2 str 1 int?


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Xexer wrote:
Hybrid is best in PvE and PvP I don't know hybrid does more overall damage and pure strength has lower damage but the crits are very high


hybrid str crits are pretty close to pure str crits.

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Bow is the only weapon, I think, that most people agree that hybrid is better. About how to build it, its up to you. Take a look at some guides, and get to your own conclusions. It is not that hard. There is also an 70:70 hybrid, that will maybe be getting more and more obsolete as the cap raises, but im not so sure. Search around for it and take a look, its the best hybrid bower for 80 cap in my opinion. The problem is that 90 cap is really near. Then you should try making something more different, an hybrid with higher mag balance or higher phy balance, so then you can build its skill masteries more easily. Its up to you if you want to make an hybrid int or hybrid str. The good of hybrid is that you can play with their status. Please, take a look at some other hybrid guides (not only bow guides) and you will get an good idea, and will be able to build one on your own.

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Bow is the only weapon, I think, that most people agree that hybrid is better. About how to build it, its up to you. Take a look at some guides, and get to your own conclusions. It is not that hard. There is also an 70:70 hybrid, that will maybe be getting more and more obsolete as the cap raises, but im not so sure. Search around for it and take a look, its the best hybrid bower for 80 cap in my opinion. The problem is that 90 cap is really near. Then you should try making something more different, an hybrid with higher mag balance or higher phy balance, so then you can build its skill masteries more easily. Its up to you if you want to make an hybrid int or hybrid str. The good of hybrid is that you can play with their status. Please, take a look at some other hybrid guides (not only bow guides) and you will get an good idea, and will be able to build one on your own.


sure man thanks

But like something that no guide explains is about those 70:70 builds. How can you make one? Like, if you get a weapon with lets say +3 int, the physical/magical balance can change. And how would you even add your stat points? 1:2 then 2:1 and so on?


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I recommend building any hybrid from balances. I never count my int and str, there is no reason to be that accurate.

Take off all gear that has int or str on it. then when you add your stat points from your lvl up watch your balances and keep it close to your target balance.

If you have gear with about the same int and str points then don't even bother taking it off.

If you go hybrid int bow just make sure you have snow shield. 70:70 (hybrid int) can run up to lvl 60 mastery (40%) snow shield. Hybrid 1:1 can run 35% snow shield.

You can't really mess up your balances if you are a bower they all work. You do need to match your skills to your balances however.

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I tend to keep my mag balance naked at 50% to not lose to much non-crit dmg. Just do whetever u like.

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raphaell666 wrote:
Bow is the only weapon, I think, that most people agree that hybrid is better. About how to build it, its up to you. Take a look at some guides, and get to your own conclusions. It is not that hard. There is also an 70:70 hybrid, that will maybe be getting more and more obsolete as the cap raises, but im not so sure. Search around for it and take a look, its the best hybrid bower for 80 cap in my opinion. The problem is that 90 cap is really near. Then you should try making something more different, an hybrid with higher mag balance or higher phy balance, so then you can build its skill masteries more easily. Its up to you if you want to make an hybrid int or hybrid str. The good of hybrid is that you can play with their status. Please, take a look at some other hybrid guides (not only bow guides) and you will get an good idea, and will be able to build one on your own.


Since when do people agree? According to me bow will be the sole build that will keep bitching about. I recommend STR bower, we crit harder and have more HP.
I havent met a single hybrid bower that killed me that is hybrid, that can say something about the hybrid bowers on my server, about me or about hybrids in general. Sure there will be *great* hyrbids around. I can make a killing hyrbid with sun gear, and a sucky str with NPC gear.

I would go str, the overal damage they do is IMO not enough to go against the crits from STR's. Based on the video's ive seen, hybrids still need crits to win against other str builds, just like a str build. I cant really see what the big plus side is. Besides being able to use snow shield. But I can survive nukers with sun shield, so meh.

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HertogJan wrote:
Since when do people agree? According to me bow will be the sole build that will keep bitching about.
LOL I Agree that we disagree

I recommend STR bower, we crit harder and have more HP.
I havent met a single hybrid bower that killed me that is hybrid, that can say something about the hybrid bowers on my server, about me or about hybrids in general.
Its funny cause I haven't met a STR bower that could even scratch me that were within 2 lvls of me. Though I haven't met many bowers that were near fare fights since I am not capped.

Sure there will be *great* hyrbids around. I can make a killing hyrbid with sun gear, and a sucky str with NPC gear.

I would go str, the overal damage they do is IMO not enough to go against the crits from STR's. Based on the video's ive seen, hybrids still need crits to win against other str builds, just like a str build. I cant really see what the big plus side is. Besides being able to use snow shield. But I can survive nukers with sun shield, so meh.

Your right Hybrids need crits just as much as STR.
I really think for 1vs1 pvp hybrid+snowshield is better.
Hybrid without snowshield (its recharging) is sometimes/often at a disadvantage depending on who they are fighting. A lot of it comes down to playing style and preferance.
For leveling hybrid is at a advantage.


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The point is that it is so hard to prove that one build is better then the other cause they are so much alike.

If a level 80 pure str bow fully farmed with npc gear goes against a hybrid str bow fully farmed with npc gear, it would still come down to crits and they are based on luck. I wouldnt feel good winning that fight and claiming str bows are better, nor would I feel good being defeated and needing to hear that str builds suck.

Glavie I agree with you that when a hybrid has snowshield on he can be a pain in the ass, but considering I have the knockback arrow, I can pretty much stall any opponent long enough to wear the snowshield out. And then I just pound him until he dies or snowshield comes up again.

With leveling hybrids have the advantage, that is a given. Just can't stand it when people say hyrbids are better pvp builds >.<

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Yeah and even if we could prove that 1 balance is better vs the other balance. That doesn't really say much when fighting other builds.

I remember when Glaviesgirl's hybrid int sword couldn't kill this spear nuker. I showed up and the nuker didn't stand a chance.
Yet GlaviesGirl could kill me.
This game is weird like that.

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