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 Post subject: 1 hand swordsman sub cleric needs help
PostPosted: Thu Jan 03, 2008 11:17 pm 
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i'm level 20 one handed swordsman and i use basicly npc swords which blow...but it's really hard to find weaps on uranus -_-

i do horrible damage and i'm having trouble leveling because lvl 19 and 20 monsters take about 4 hits for me to finish off. i know i'm supposed to be a tanker...but this is really hard. i'm sub cleric so i have a constant 2 gap...

i just started a nuker and he's doing more dmg than me at lvl 10...i just need to know: is this going to get better or am i gonna be super weak the whole way...cuz this is really boring...
or do i need a really good sword to survive as a 1 hand swordsman

plus: right now...i don't even use the cleric build...i mean sure i have heal nad res...but other than heal over time at lvl 30...wat's the point of having cleric subclass??

i've read many guides and went with this build...but i'm only doing ~100 dmg per hit without a skill...this blows


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i dont have much experience with warriors so i may nto be correct. However from what i've read and seen 1 handed do hit low they're kind of like chinese bladers except without as many cool skills as they can tank a lot but cant kill very quickly. If you want high damage output go 2 handed sword as that htis really high but attacks slow. And from another topic i believe cleric benefits 2 handed more than 1 handed sword as 1 handed can already tank. So apparently warlock for 1 handed would be better since shield is already equipped and warlock can cast the debuffs. Hope this helps


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dont use vital increase with 1h it decreases your dmg while 2h has the warcry buff.


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1h warrior/ warlock is better U will do better dmg and u will still be able to tank good.

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T_T...am i gonna have to start over again??

meh...i'll go find out how much money it'll cost me to delevel

thanks guys...oh but i don't understand wat you, Juicy mean by don't use vital increase

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georgie wrote:
T_T...am i gonna have to start over again??

meh...i'll go find out how much money it'll cost me to delevel

thanks guys...oh but i don't understand wat you, Juicy mean by don't use vital increase

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He means that the "vital increase" skill lowers your damage, and being a 1hs, you'll do even lower damage lol

And about the build, cleric provides great defense for euro's pot-delay and in some cases lack of defense.

Holy Word, Bless Spell, Recovery Division added w/ the Warrior Class' Iron/Mana Skins (and being 1hs) = walking meat tank for at least 1min+

If you're looking for a little bit of damage dealing, you could just delvl Cleric and raise the Warlock mastery for the debuffs and just be a warrior, sub warlock.....or just become a 2hs/cleric.

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Cleric subclass is the BEST subclass for warrior, dont matter what is your weapon, theres almost no discussion about that. "Whats the point of having cleric?" Recovery division will work as an autopot, and with bless spell your defense will get a lot higher, so bless spell + recovery division = almost unkillable for 45s, and if you use iron skin and mana skin after the bless spell end up, then you will be unkillable for 90s. With cleric you will also get holy word. If you are not liking your low damage then start over and do an 2h warrior, maybe you will like it, but there is no better european tanker than an 1h warrior/cleric IMO. I advice you to use cleric as a sub to warrior. If you really want to deal damage then go rogue or wizard. Take a look at this: [GUIDE] European SubClasses

EDIT: Ups, my fault, I did not read the whole Ningyotsukai-san post, just read the first lines because I was kinda in a hurry. Im sorry.

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Do not start over. Just get in parties, and if you see that you can't find any, start saving some xp so you can use 2h skills as well. That way, Level with 2h, party with 1h. Don't get cleric skills because you will need the SP for your warrior, but if you have left over sp, then I suggest you only get rez and 1 heal.

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thanks torinchibi i think that's what i'm going to do

i'm gonna get two hand sword skills plus one hand sword skills and delevel cleric until i have 1 heal and 1 res...

thanks!

but are there any other skills i should skip for 1hand and 2hand?

cuz i want to stick with a 2 level gap...as i wanna gain levels fairly quickly =)


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You are pure str right?
You are wearing accessories right?

A mob your lvl shouldn't scratch you. Im serious I have a pure str 1h sword no sub lvl 25. A mob my lvl takes down maybe 1/7 of my health, during the 4 skills it takes for me to kill it. I am wearing protector drops full set, and I have a 2 gap. With a br 11shield.

So yeah grinding in parties is mandatory otherwise you will never lvl but dying to regular white mobs should never be a concern.
Shield trash and run if you have to.

It is sad when you zerk a giant 2lvls below you, and the zerk runs out and it still has more than half its health left :(

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.....That's why i keep telling warriors to get both 2h and 1h without a subclass till they reach a farming level...or even level 80. If a mob your lvl takes out 1/7 of your hp with 2h, and you get hit 4-5 times, then for a 2h, it would be 1/10 because you get hit 2-3 times. Sure they do more dmg each hit, but you won't reduce the dmg by half with a shield, and lvling is damn slow anyway.\


Georgie, there is no point in deleveling cleric, you just end up losing SP in the long run since you only get 60% sp back. You can probably keep the mastery 10 levels behind your warrior mastery, so you can still rez your party members when you party...and when I said get 1 heal, I mean get 1 of the level 40 heals...and you would probably want to get Group Recovery. Actually, might as well get recovery division because that can save you a shitload of HP potions in the long run.

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kay..i guess so tornichibi...but the thing is..i'm not going to be able to keep a 2 level gap anymore...right?


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 Post subject: Re: 1 hand swordsman sub cleric needs help
PostPosted: Sun Jan 06, 2008 11:22 am 
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georgie wrote:
i'm level 20 one handed swordsman and i use basicly npc swords which blow...but it's really hard to find weaps on uranus -_-

i do horrible damage and i'm having trouble leveling because lvl 19 and 20 monsters take about 4 hits for me to finish off. i know i'm supposed to be a tanker...but this is really hard. i'm sub cleric so i have a constant 2 gap...

i just started a nuker and he's doing more dmg than me at lvl 10...i just need to know: is this going to get better or am i gonna be super weak the whole way...cuz this is really boring...
or do i need a really good sword to survive as a 1 hand swordsman

plus: right now...i don't even use the cleric build...i mean sure i have heal nad res...but other than heal over time at lvl 30...wat's the point of having cleric subclass??

i've read many guides and went with this build...but i'm only doing ~100 dmg per hit without a skill...this blows


Okey I will try to help you ... I have 1h Warrior/Cleric on 53lvl ... It kills pretty fast and it cant be killed xD In pvp i pretty much own every build using different techniqes ...

First thing you have to do is use skills !!! You wont be able to kill a thing with normal attacks :S Dont be cheap ... If you dont have money go to the mobs 3 or 4 lvls under yours and lvl there for a few lvls ... When I was 36 I lvled on Sungsungs ( 33 and 34lvl ) for about 3 lvls and made about 10mills there ...

I suggest you to do the same ... make some gap I made 8 gap and got about 25k SP till 43 lvl and it was enough till 53 xD ...

And Cleric sub is everything except useless ... Man withouth Recovery Division I would die 50% more of the time ... To help ya this is skills that you should use every time ...

From Warrior skills:
Slash, Double Stab, Shield Trash, Berserker ... ( I dont know which of these you have but use them ! ) ... One more thing you have one attack called Sprint Assault , on the beggining I was asking myself why the f... I need this skill, it does 90% less dmg than other skills but its VERY useful ... When you want to attack some mob just use that skill if he is far away from you it will ran and stun him xD ...
It is very useful fighting Wizzards, Clerics etc. because it cancels their skill.

Then you have defense skills from Warrior like Iron SKin and Mana Skin which you will get later but use them too , and offcourse you have Protect, Pain Quota and other that is mostly for your party so if you are soloing you dont need them atm.

And from Cleric skills you need ... Holy Word , very useful for fighting Warlocks xD, Recovery Division, allready said why its good and for the end you have Bless, if you are grinding and you encounter Giant or some Party mob u think you cant defeat ... Just use bless it will make you undefeatable for 45 secs ... and later you will have Iron and Mana skin that will add more 45 sec so its 90 sec of immortality xD

Hope I helped you ;)

EDIT: I had to say something about Warlock sub-class ... Why bother going to Warlock ?! If you took Warrior as your class it is supposed that you like to tank and with Cleric as sub you will be God of Tanking ... Adding to that for Warlock you need MP and as for the Warrior you are Pure STR and if you go hybrid you suk a big time ... And to go for Warlock you have to have a good knowing of both Warrior and Warlock its not easy build to play at all ... And most of the time you will be owned in pvp by Wizz and Clerics because till you do your debuffs on them you are dead, caput xD ... So I suggest you to stick with Cleric

Only thing you could do is SP Farm a lot so you can have 2h Warrior as well ... But you can do farming on your lvl let some1 power farm you on Ongs or go and Farm on later lvls 42, 52, 64 or later xD


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meh..i don't wanna farm

screw cleric lmao...

so how EXACTLY does recovery division work...?


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For STR it heals the amount it says on the person in the party with the lowest HP at that time, does it every 5 sec for 5 minutes. If you have a cleric rod out , it will heal cleric rod m.atk power + amount on the skill as HP. with a rod with 1k m.atk it will heal 1k hp+ (for level 1 division) 257hp so 1257 hp. But after you switch weapons it goes back to healing just 257 hp.

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