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alcoholic
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Post subject: why do euro cahracters hit so much ?? Posted: Mon Jan 28, 2008 5:00 pm |
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they hit sooooo much 
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Dark_Ness
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Post subject: Re: why do euro cahracters hit so much ?? Posted: Mon Jan 28, 2008 5:02 pm |
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Why chinese characters use potions so fast? They use them like crazy.... :S
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Crowley
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Post subject: Re: why do euro cahracters hit so much ?? Posted: Mon Jan 28, 2008 6:07 pm |
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I think I might know why wizards hit so much -- this is just a theory E.g. a lvl 80 wiz would hit more than a lvl 80 chiense nuker, propably because wizards can't do anything other than nukes whilst chinese nukers can still have a weapon mastery And same with 2h sword, all the have is phy dmg so it should be quite strong -- but warlocks r still weak -.-"
Best euro build dagger/cleric ^_^
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Dark_Ness
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Post subject: Re: why do euro cahracters hit so much ?? Posted: Mon Jan 28, 2008 6:57 pm |
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@up Warlock is an exception, it doesnt make a lot of damage, but it has a lot useful skills, like lowering opponent's attack and draining hp instead of potions...
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Post subject: Re: why do euro cahracters hit so much ?? Posted: Tue Jan 29, 2008 12:47 am |
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...Yeah.. warlock doesn't make a lot of dmg. Does like 1.5k every second with 1 dot....it has at least 2 dots it can put on you, debuffs you for magic defense, and hits higher than a nuker when they do. Warlocks own you right up, just not with 1 nuke. Warlock dps is higher than nuker dps, because after the 2-3 sec you need to use dots, they can just nuke and hit and do amazing dmg.
But the reason why euros do so much dmg is because their weapon atk and skill atks only have 1 atk power. IE phy or mag, so that power is obviously going to be higher than their chinese counterparts.
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Post subject: Re: why do euro cahracters hit so much ?? Posted: Tue Jan 29, 2008 1:00 am |
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euro chars hit so much because they have pot delay, and chinese chars hit not so much because they dont have pot delay
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Post subject: Re: why do euro cahracters hit so much ?? Posted: Tue Jan 29, 2008 1:26 am |
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there are some things that make us hit hard, we sacrifice some hp to do more damage, pot delay (more damage, slower healing), and we have less attacks than the chinese example 2h swords only has 5 attack skills compared to other builds
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Bohemund
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Post subject: Re: why do euro cahracters hit so much ?? Posted: Tue Jan 29, 2008 4:58 pm |
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vitorr wrote: first look to the weapons... one example: Divine Iranggjingun Pike
Weapon type: Spear Degree: 8 degrees
Phy. attack power 614 ~ 731 (0%) Mag. attack power 1053 ~ 1287 (0%) Durability 71/71 (0%) Attack distance 1.8 m Attack rating 132 (0%) Critical 4 (0%) Phy. reinforce 131.2% ~ 156.2% (0%) Mag. reinforce 225.0% ~ 275.0% (0%)
Required level 72 ChineseBootes Elegant Staff
Weapon type: Staff Degree: 8 degrees
Mag. attack power 1264 ~ 1544 (0%) Durability 66/66 (0%) Attack distance 0.6 m Attack rating 132 (0%) Critical 2 (0%) Mag. reinforce 264.7% ~ 323.5% (0%)
Required level 72 Europeanand after look to the skills.... euro fire nuke http://www.konpaku.com.br/silkroad/habilidade.asp?habilidade=skill&mastery=514&serie=5144&skill=522chinese fire nuke http://www.konpaku.com.br/silkroad/habilidade.asp?habilidade=skill&mastery=275&serie=2755&skill=288PS: and the chinese chars got the imbue lols  I think that's because euro's have no imbue on the side, but have them infiltrated in their skills. Also every mastery has a passive to increase their mag/phy power %. On my lvl 32 warrior is already 31% FTW.
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Advancechao
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Post subject: Re: why do euro cahracters hit so much ?? Posted: Tue Jan 29, 2008 5:04 pm |
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^^ Yes, Chinese characters automatically get the +% increase just by leveling up their mastery. European characters have a different passive for every class. Wizards, for example, have four passives, one for each element. Rogues get dagger power up and crossbow power up, Warriors get one power up passive per weapon, Warlocks get Dark Seed and Bloody Aim, Clerics get Heavenly Rage, Bards get Vibration. And each of them can be leveled up every four levels and give +4% every time it goes up, so it's the exact same thing.
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Bohemund
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Post subject: Re: why do euro cahracters hit so much ?? Posted: Tue Jan 29, 2008 5:12 pm |
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Wasn't sure about the chinese chars on that topic. So it's the same? Ok. How about the skills of euro's and that they have the imbues already in their skills? Can someone verify this?
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Post subject: Re: why do euro cahracters hit so much ?? Posted: Tue Jan 29, 2008 5:33 pm |
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the only euro that has an imbue is rogue, and it only adds poison effects, not dmg.
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Advancechao
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Post subject: Re: why do euro cahracters hit so much ?? Posted: Tue Jan 29, 2008 5:34 pm |
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Bohemund wrote: Wasn't sure about the chinese chars on that topic. So it's the same? Ok. How about the skills of euro's and that they have the imbues already in their skills? Can someone verify this? Euros don't exactly get imbues. Wizards can inflict statuses like frostbite and freeze using their skills because of their elemental attacks. Rogues get a poison imbue but it only adds to your total damage if you get the dagger tree's poison passive for it. Euro skills are just generally stronger than their Chinese counterparts and so are their weapons.
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Post subject: Re: why do euro cahracters hit so much ?? Posted: Tue Jan 29, 2008 6:13 pm |
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look at this way:
chinese has no disadvantages (medium survial rate/medium dmg) nor they don't have any advantages (medium dmg) so chinese are meant to solo
euro class each have their own disadvantage (low dmg (str)/low survial rate (int)) but they also have advantages (high survial rate (str)/high dmg (int))so euro are meant to be in party using each other's advantages and defending each other's disadvantages
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Post subject: Re: why do euro cahracters hit so much ?? Posted: Tue Jan 29, 2008 10:51 pm |
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toastedsock wrote: euro chars=teh uber pwnzor
chinese chars=teh uber suxorz
The real reason is that chinese can pot spam but euros have the 14 second delay. The delay is counteracted by having better weapons, armor, and higher hits. That last part means nothing because im fighting Crabs at lvl 21 and get teamed because i cant find a good team and i start to yell "res!!!!!!!!!!"
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Bohemund
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Post subject: Re: why do euro cahracters hit so much ?? Posted: Wed Jan 30, 2008 12:58 am |
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toastedsock wrote: That's cause you play a buff char. If you're not in a party then you're gonna have to be real careful and only fight regs one at a time. I played a bard up to 40 and got tired of dying constantly so I switched to a warrior and now I don't have to worry about pts, giants, etc. Not true, I just started a full bard/cleric and am grinding at mobs 2-4 lvls below. Now I'm 23 and was peeking at the crabs, and guess what, I pwn the crab out of them....exept the partymobs and giants. But you have 30% speed so you can outmanouvre them quickly to go only for the normal and champs. The normals I use the first nuke+basic shot...dead and didn't got hit. I like it!
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Post subject: Re: why do euro cahracters hit so much ?? Posted: Wed Jan 30, 2008 1:15 am |
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Dont forget chi chars can use any of the 3 types of armor (the only limit is their level). While euro chars are limited to what their class allows them to wear. It adds to the pros of being a chi char. In general a chi char class has more flexibility and versatility in combat, while a euro char is more perfected for teamplay.
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Gemini
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Post subject: Re: why do euro cahracters hit so much ?? Posted: Wed Jan 30, 2008 1:24 am |
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Sylhana wrote: Dont forget chi chars can use any of the 3 types of armor (the only limit is their level). While euro chars are limited to what their class allows them to wear. It adds to the pros of being a chi char. In general a chi char class has more flexibility and versatility in combat, while a euro char is more perfected for teamplay. which gives the chinese a good advantage
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