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 Post subject: Glavier's Evolution ?
PostPosted: Thu Feb 28, 2008 5:05 am 
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With so much talk about Archer builds, hybrid ints and pure ints - has anyone forgotten the once respected Pure Str Glavier?

At cap 80, Lvl 80 pure str glavier with full garm +5 and a +7 glavie seems to be overshadowed and outdamaged by many other builds be it chinese or euro. My question is : What are your plans as a pure str glavier? What changes are you going to make to face these new rising powers?

Starting with Chinese chars:
Pure Str Blader: Has becomed more powerful than ever, and still remain the best tanking Chinese character. Skill updates with the lightning chain enables the blader to deal high damage while being near-immortal.
Pure Str Archer: Similarly increased in damage, power and can now survive better all thanks to the new skills. Take 3 crits from an archer while being unbuffed would nearly meant death 75% of the time. Archers are no longer pushovers anymore as they harrass like professionals with their new combos that knockback their targets, and they can now stun too.
Pure Int S/S: One of the most fearsome builds in the Chinese list after the update, with a 50% snowshield and lightning chain, their already-high damage amplies furthermore, meanwhile making themselves more resistant to attacks, and all they have to do is tide over 60 seconds after their snowshield is depleted.
Pure Int Spear: A once thought impossible build now made possible with the 50% snowshield, similarly having higher hp and output higher damage though not considering the new skills that helped a bit.
Hybrid Int Spear: Now, a very strong build that takes little damage yet dealing high amount of damage and high crits.
Hybrid Archers: A fast developing power that many are considering, thinkin of combining both advantages from the int and str and the new archer skills. This build cannot be underestimated.

Euro Chars:
Warriors: No matter what subclass they take, no doubt they're fearsome fighters and makes them godlike when their iron skin and mana skin begins to work their magic. Their capacity to take down a pure str in defense stance cannot be ignored any further simply they deal more damage than chinese, better crits, better buffs, and higher hp. Who says hp recovery delay is their downfall ?
Rouge: Once thought weak daggers now sheds light in a different angle and the xbows are no pushovers either with high advantage in range and crits, nearly no pure str chinese could survive 2 crits in a row.
Warlock: Another fast rising power as it shows itself as a build worthy of spending time on. Damage no longer matters, nor hp matters. Warlock simply curse his way through and you'll die even successfully running into safezone. Stun, sleep, slumber, Im not sure if you can reach the warlock before you die.
Wizard: The one-hit legend with invisibility and the power to turn the entire party invisible has no doubt become the highest damage dealer in sro. The ironic part about being one-hit and one-hitting people is hardly laughable anymore once the wizard plays serious in jobs. Got a tough guy opposing your way? Call a wizard in, then get the funeral service ready.
Bard: Music useless? I dont think so after seeing SirShadowCat and Zumm getting all buffed up by the dances. Sun bows are crazy, but what do you call SunBows being buffed up ?
Cleric: The most famous subclass in sro, I dont have to say much for this, most of you guys knew already.

So now... my dear glaviers, whats your plan on your build, in terms of masteries, skills, techniques, strategy? Put yourself in situations fighting other builds or even the same build. How do we evolved from all the injustice since the big update ?
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 Post subject: Re: Glavier's Evolution ?
PostPosted: Thu Feb 28, 2008 5:20 am 
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i personaly think that the long Reign of the Pure Str glaive is over although even before the Euro update i never had too many problems with them my hybrid s/s Kd+stab+nuke+(repeat) could take down most glaivers, even those with some sos gear

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Glavier overlooked?


I see much people who use a glavie :s

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 Post subject: Re: Glavier's Evolution ?
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tbh im not sure man. With sosun +6 garms pimped gear and +9 glavie i was pretty much set but now kinda worryin. idk whats gonna happen. not lookin good for us tho

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how about this for glaive's evolution theres shitloads of them on isro and tons in ksro/csro/jsro it will always be a good build


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 Post subject: Re: Glavier's Evolution ?
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Yeah there are tons of them because before the euro update and skills update, during cap 70 - it was one of the strongest build compared to others.

Thanks Sharper, thats what Im talking about. I really dont know how things will turn out for glaviers anymore. If we compare all builds at the same lvl of gears, we're gonna be facing some problems. Furthermore, how many glaviers out there can truly afford a full sun set ? There's also a limited number of sun equips in the market so... only a small portion of glaviers are stronger than the rest of the glaviers.

So far no comments on what's everyone's idea or plan? Come on, any sugggestions?


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 Post subject: Re: Glavier's Evolution ?
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are you kidding me? glaivers dont need sun to be strong trust me at 90+ they only get stronger


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 Post subject: Re: Glavier's Evolution ?
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Pure STR glaive was always and will still remain a cookie-cutter build, IMO. Bladers have been made interesting through statuses, bowers through knockback/stun and INT's through snow shield. Nothing special about the glaiver except for the massive HP now. The strong crits are still there. The build continues to be a great one, but it's not as dominant as it used to be, for example, at 70 cap.

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 Post subject: Re: Glavier's Evolution ?
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Glaviers are one of the more versatile builds of sro, they can take a few hits and dish out some damage at the same time. With the new updates I think glaviers just need to play their builds smarter instead of the usual button smashing. For nukers with snow you can try and tank out the 2 minutes of snow by constantly stunning and trying to dull, once those 2 minutes are over you should be able to kill them with ease. For euros you just need to make sure you don't fight them with bless/skins etc, try and stun them or just run around, attack once and burn some time. With a +7 glavie and a high parry/high ar set you should be more then fine against all builds, you just gotta make sure you play it right.

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 Post subject: Re: Glavier's Evolution ?
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As a glaiver u should keep going for stun repeatedly with emperor, soul and truth. (If 80 and farmed avoid Soul spear truth). Furthermore go for Dull as well. Just do moves that give some sort of status. Anyways Glaivers still do the most damage as a pure str Chinese class. And your oponents build in pvp u should know where their hp is and exactly when to do Mars as a last hit to kill the oponent.

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