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[GUIDE] European Subclasses.
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My vote goes to bard or warlock. If u want the complete party build and ultimate buffer go with bard, but if u would like to be a little better at pvp and party offense go with warlock. Warlock is also good because it is an easy weapon switch and has some very helpful skills like stun and sleep which almost never fail.

Pure Cleric is definitely Bard. Nothing needed outside of Cleric only secondary that could help would be Warrior so you could have Shield Trash.

in my opinion bard will be good i think or maybe warlock
my vote: bard

btw do some 1 know how much hp full int cleric will have whit out blues? at lvl 80 and/or 90

Bard. If you are going to have your main class be a Cleric, its probably for helping others out. The next best class to do so is the Bard class.

Most clerics hate barding. I suggest warrior for the knockback, can save your ass if you start getting attacked.

I'd say wizard or warlock.

Cleric is one of the most boring occupations after 60. At 80 you're clicking 1 button every 7seconds.
Pick something fun like wiz or warlock.

warrior sub is nice for the shield trash which is very useful in pvp, i don't recommend it in grind parties.

if you have fun with the bard skills, ~some people do~, then take that.

bottom line: Cleric is very repetitive pick a class that you think you can enjoy on the side.
not sure, what a cleric could get out of a rogue or warrior sub but if you want masks or something be my guest as long as it's fun.

If we're going for practicality, it would be wizard sub; wiz/cleric + warrior =s a nice party anyday.
If we're going for pvp wiz/cleric or warlock/cleric

well it all comes down to what kind of cleric you want to be.

if you like being a full support, party helpful type of cleric, go with cleric/bard build

if you like being versatile as a great attacker or healer, go with cleric/wizard

if you like to pvp and have fun, go with cleric/warlock and just switch rods to stun/debuff/sleep/bind/heal

i personally like to pvp..so it's cleric/warlock for me . i would hate to be a full support because there are some days where i do have to solo to finish my gt or a quest..and having a good attacker (warlock) will help.

Bard/warrior sub for me, I considered wizard though. End result @ 90 will be Cleric 90/Bard 80/Warrior 10.

My char is primarily support, but I'm working on keeping my attack skills as high as possible (Overhealing is useful).

Bard skills are minimal at the moment, just noise, moving march, hit march, temptation, guard tambour, mana cycle.

Just want to put my two cents in on the merits of bard.

I solo as a bard. The attack skills may look weak compared to the cleric attacks, but the cast time and cooldown is quicker. My damage per second output is higher as a bard than as a cleric. And I don't blow myself up every few minutes. I've tried soloing as both.

At level 80, I can kill 4 green mobs in 2 skills. I can 2-shot orange mobs and usually 3-shot a red mob. Put on RD, maybe add Holy Spell, Noise, Moving March, and a tambour if you want, and off you go. I rarely (and I mean very rarely) die while soloing. If I have to solo while on ticket time, I can get 15-20%. Not bad for a full support character, wouldn't you say?

Oh... the biggest side benefit of bard/cleric - you don't need pots!! Mana Cycle, Recovery Division, Healing Cycle